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Discerning of spirits.
People often get that messed up.
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Discerning of spirits.I don't recall a gift of discernment listed in scripture either.
Gifts have ceased remember?
no dear,
we are all given gifts and blessings.
our discussion is which ones were Apostolic (miraculous); have the Apostolic era miraculous powers and gifts ceased; and what are the gifts we receive when we are Justified today?
also, are certain manifestations some claim to be gifts actually real?
~ regards
child
One is still needed but the others have ceased?no dear,
we are all given gifts and blessings.
our discussion is which ones were Apostolic (miraculous); have the Apostolic era miraculous powers and gifts ceased; and what are the gifts we receive when we are Justified today?
also, are certain manifestations some claim to be gifts actually real?
~ regards
child
I don't recall a gift of discernment listed in scripture either.
hi Arby!
perhaps its the misuse of the word gifts that causes Christendom today so much trouble.
in 2 Timothy you will notice Paul says God has GIVEN us something (a sound mind)....which is reflected in the passage in Hebrews, where we USE THAT GIFT OF A SOUND MIND TO DISCERN BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.
2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
~ cheers
child
:ohi Arby!
perhaps its the misuse of the word gifts that causes Christendom today so much trouble.
in 2 Timothy you will notice Paul says God has GIVEN us something (a sound mind)....which is reflected in the passage in Hebrews, where we USE THAT GIFT OF A SOUND MIND TO DISCERN BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.
2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
~ cheers
child
Discerning of spirits.
People often get that messed up.
:o
Methinks this conversation is futile.
They sure do when they don't know their scripture. You are correct
If you think that the discerning of spirits is NOT "miraculous " or supernatural gift..no dear,
we are all given gifts and blessings.
our discussion is which ones were Apostolic (miraculous); ....
Care to point out where in scripture the gift of discernment is listed?
hi Arby!
perhaps its the misuse of the word gifts that causes Christendom today so much trouble.
in 2 Timothy you will notice Paul says God has GIVEN us something (a sound mind)....which is reflected in the passage in Hebrews, where we USE THAT GIFT OF A SOUND MIND TO DISCERN BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.
2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
~ cheers
child
here it is again bud.
we'd do fine if we used the word gifts correctly (or understood what they were and are).
eternal life is a gift, isn't it?
Did anyone see a gift listed in scripture by her or is she just inferring things?
1Jn 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 2:8 Again, a new commandment write I unto you, which thing is true in him and in you; because the darkness is passing away, and the true light already shineth.
1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in the darkness even until now.
1Jn 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in the darkness, and walketh in the darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not abideth in death.
1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, cannot love God whom he hath not seen.
1Jn 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, that he who loveth God love his brother also.
When you point out the actual gift to us in scripture, maybe we'll accept your story, until then, I'm not entertaining someone adding to scripture,... bud.
Shall we visit the scriptures again,..
but Arby...
it's not i who add.
i'm trying to understand how charlatans (see vid in thread, i.e.) who represent pentecostalism have deceived millions into doing what they do and sending them money and defending them?
later....bud.
1Jn 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 2:8 Again, a new commandment write I unto you, which thing is true in him and in you; because the darkness is passing away, and the true light already shineth.
1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in the darkness even until now.
1Jn 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in the darkness, and walketh in the darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not abideth in death.
1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, cannot love God whom he hath not seen.
1Jn 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, that he who loveth God love his brother also.
Your unwillingness to divulge your respected teachers is extremely telling. We came forward with Kenneth Copeland and the other dude in the vidoe. Do you endorse those people? If not, why?
Who do you endorse? Why don't you just tell us? Are you ashamed of them?
Whats the difference between what they do and what the '750 million Pentacostals' who you crow about are practising? What proportion of those are making a mockery of the HS?
I dont limit God's power. I limit mens power. Men have the book now. We don't need the powers.
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