Study: Covid Vaccines Proven to Cause More Harm than Good

[Sass78]

I am no expert on this but here is a study.

https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/u...nalyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

"Results prove that none of the vaccines provide a health
benefit and all pivotal trials show a statically significant increase in “all cause severe morbidity" in the vaccinated group compared to the placebo group. The Moderna immunized group suffered 3,042 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001). The Pfizer data was grossly incomplete but data provided showed the vaccination group suffered 90 more severe events than the control group (p=0.000014), when only including “unsolicited” adverse events. The Janssen immunized group suffered 264 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001)."

 

[A_Thinker]

I am no expert on this but here is a study.

https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/u...nalyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

"Results prove that none of the vaccines provide a health
benefit and all pivotal trials show a statically significant increase in “all cause severe morbidity" in the vaccinated group compared to the placebo group. The Moderna immunized group suffered 3,042 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001). The Pfizer data was grossly incomplete but data provided showed the vaccination group suffered 90 more severe events than the control group (p=0.000014), when only including “unsolicited” adverse events. The Janssen immunized group suffered 264 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001)."

This is "one" anti-vax doctor's opinion, ... not a study, ... published in appropriate medical language, such that non-practitioners cannot completely parse its contents.

From a laymen's point of view, however, the contents contain many questionable claims, the chief one being that no vaccine has ever been a benefit to the human community ...

"Vaccines have been promoted and widely utilized under the false claim they have been shown to improve health. However, this claim is only a philosophical argument and not science based. In a true scientific fashion to show a health benefit one would need to show fewer overall deaths during an extended period in the vaccinated group compared to a control group. Less stringent indicators of a health benefit would include fewer severe events of all kinds, fewer days hospitalized for any reason, lower heath care expenses of all types, fewer missed days from work for any health reason. No pivotal clinical trial for a vaccine preventing an infectious disease has ever demonstrated an improvement in health using these scientific measurements of health as a primary endpoint."

One has only to reflect back upon the success of polio and/or smallpox vaccines in eliminating the presence of their respective diseases to adjudge that this view is highly questionable, if not false on its face.

 

[Sass78]

This is "one" anti-vax doctor's opinion, ... not a study, ... published in appropriate medical language, such that non-practitioners cannot completely parse its contents.

From a laymen's point of view, however, the contents contain many questionable claims, the chief one being that no vaccine has ever been a benefit to the human community ...

"Vaccines have been promoted and widely utilized under the false claim they have been shown to improve health. However, this claim is only a philosophical argument and not science based. In a true scientific fashion to show a health benefit one would need to show fewer overall deaths during an extended period in the vaccinated group compared to a control group. Less stringent indicators of a health benefit would include fewer severe events of all kinds, fewer days hospitalized for any reason, lower heath care expenses of all types, fewer missed days from work for any health reason. No pivotal clinical trial for a vaccine preventing an infectious disease has ever demonstrated an improvement in health using these scientific measurements of health as a primary endpoint."

One has only to reflect back upon the success of polio and/or smallpox vaccines in eliminating the presence of their respective diseases to adjudge that this view is highly questionable, if not false on its face.

It says: Method
Data from all three US COVID-19 vaccines was published in the New England Journal of Medicine [4-6]. Data from these three publications and the accompanying published appendixes provided the bulk of the information analyzed.

 

[A_Thinker]

It says: Method
Data from all three US COVID-19 vaccines was published in the New England Journal of Medicine [4-6]. Data from these three publications and the accompanying published appendixes provided the bulk of the information analyzed.

Yes ... I didn't say that no data was made use of in the writer's analysis. However, it is a well-known fact that data can be made to seem to support practically any position desired, especially if couched in language that is biased and/or difficult to decipher.

It is clear, from the medical world's almost universal adoption of vaccination as a primary therapy in preventing disease and death, ... that the few remaining dissenting opinions are just that ... dissenting opinions.

OTOH, there are facts ... which even the untrained non-practitioner can observe. For instance, the once rampant plagues of smallpox and polio, among other vaccinatable diseases, ... have been largely, if not totally eliminated from the presence of humanity ... coincidental with the application of corresponding vaccination programs. Someone from the anti-vax side needs to explain how smallpox and polio went away ...

 

[Sass78]

Yes ... I didn't say that no data was made use of in the writer's analysis. However, it is a well-known fact that data can be made to seem to support practically any position desired, especially if couched in language that is biased and/or difficult to decipher.

It is clear, from the medical world's almost universal adoption of vaccination as a primary therapy in preventing disease and death, ... that the few remaining dissenting opinions are just that ... dissenting opinions.

OTOH, there are facts ... which even the untrained non-practitioner can observe. For instance, the once rampant plagues of smallpox and polio, among other vaccinatable diseases, ... have been largely, if not totally eliminated from the presence of humanity ... coincidental with the application of corresponding vaccination programs. Someone from the anti-vax side needs to explain how smallpox and polio went away ...

But now we should discuss what this data says. Not something else.

I will take a look at it.

According to Steven Kirsch Pfizers own data says the vax kill 6 children while saving one.

TFNT3: Do the vaccines kill more people than they save?

 

[A_Thinker]

But now we should discuss what this data says. Not something else.

I will take a look at it.

According to Steven Kirsch Pfizers own data says the vax kill 6 children while saving one.

TFNT3: Do the vaccines kill more people than they save?

Why wouldn't we be more interested in the data which is easily observable ?

For instance, ... to-date, 200 million Americans had had at least one of the COVID vaccines.

Where ... is all of the supposedly associated illness and death ?

And ... why has the death and hospitalization rates from COVID plummeted since the advent of COVID vaccinations ... ???

 

[Juvenal]

I am no expert on this but here is a study.

Classen and the publication hosting his article have a reputation for misinformation.

John Barthelow Classen is an American immunologist and anti-vaccinationist.[1] He received his M.D. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore in 1988, his M.B.A. from Columbia University in 1992 and obtained his medical license in October 1997.[2][3] He is best known for publishing research concluding that vaccines, in particular the Hib vaccine, cause insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,[4] a hypothesis he proposed based on experiments he conducted on mice in 1996.[5] His views are disputed and considered unverified.

A widely-reposted 2021 Facebook post claiming that the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 could cause prion diseases was based on a paper by Classen. The paper "COVID-19 RNA based vaccines and the risk of prion disease" was published in Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, whose publisher, Scivision Publishers, is included in Beall's list of publishers of predatory journals. Vincent Racaniello, professor of microbiology and immunology at Columbia University, described the claim as "completely wrong".[1][6][7] Tulane University virologist Robert Garry stated that Classen has offered no evidence for the three pillars of his argument: that the sequence overlaps between the Pfizer vaccine are greater than occur with any randomly-selected stretch of RNA, or that the vaccine could cause zinc to be released and that doing so would affect its purported targets as he proposes.[8]​

 

[Sass78]

Another study claim boys have 6 times higher risk of heart inflammation from the vax.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1.full.pdf

"The main finding of this study was the cardiac adverse event (CAE) rates of 162/million and
94/million post- Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b2 vaccination dose two for the 12-15- and 16–17-
year-old boys, respectively. Approximately 86% of these resulted in hospitalization for both age
groups. "

 

[A_Thinker]

Another study claim boys have 6 times higher risk of heart inflammation from the vax.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1.full.pdf

"The main finding of this study was the cardiac adverse event (CAE) rates of 162/million and
94/million post- Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b2 vaccination dose two for the 12-15- and 16–17-
year-old boys, respectively. Approximately 86% of these resulted in hospitalization for both age
groups. "

Overall studies shows less of an effect.

From ... Heart Problems After Vaccination Are Very Rare, Federal Researchers Say

"But overall, the side effect is very uncommon — just 12.6 cases per million second doses administered. The researchers estimated that out of a million second doses given to boys ages 12 to 17, the vaccines might cause a maximum of 70 myocarditis cases, but would prevent 5,700 infections, 215 hospitalizations and two deaths."

 

[dqhall]

I am no expert on this but here is a study.

https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/u...nalyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

"Results prove that none of the vaccines provide a health
benefit and all pivotal trials show a statically significant increase in “all cause severe morbidity" in the vaccinated group compared to the placebo group. The Moderna immunized group suffered 3,042 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001). The Pfizer data was grossly incomplete but data provided showed the vaccination group suffered 90 more severe events than the control group (p=0.000014), when only including “unsolicited” adverse events. The Janssen immunized group suffered 264 more severe events than the control group (p=0.00001)."

Faulty logic.

136,000 people a day are infected, 1000 people a day are dying of COVID. In a separate report about 97% of these serious cases were in people not vaccinated. People receiving vaccinations have been shown to have lower incidence of all cause mortality when compared to those receiving no vaccinations. Vaccinated individuals are less likely to require hospitalizations compared to unvaccinated persons.

U.S. COVID-19 cases average 136,000 per day, daily deaths above 1,000 - CDC director

 

[Sass78]

Faulty logic.

136,000 people a day are infected, 1000 people a day are dying of COVID. In a separate report about 97% of these serious cases were in people not vaccinated. People receiving vaccinations have been shown to have lower incidence of all cause mortality when compared to those receiving no vaccinations. Vaccinated individuals are less likely to require hospitalizations compared to unvaccinated persons.

U.S. COVID-19 cases average 136,000 per day, daily deaths above 1,000 - CDC director

Do you know how they defined "vaccinated" here?

 

[anna ~ grace]

So, based on what I have observed with my own eyes; over 90% of the folks I know who were vaccinated suffered no ill effects. About 10% have suffered some weird effects, such as psychiatric issues, vertigo that has lasted for weeks, and intense and apparently permanent pressure headaches.

All of the weird effects have been in people under sixty.

 

[dqhall]

Do you know how they defined "vaccinated" here?

I would think they mean those inoculated with the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines.

 

[topher694]

One has only to reflect back upon the success of polio and/or smallpox vaccines in eliminating the presence of their respective diseases to adjudge that this view is highly questionable, if not false on its face.

This argument displays massive ignorance about viruses in general especially the differences between these viruses and Coronavirus.

 

[Steve_K]

But now we should discuss what this data says. Not something else.

I will take a look at it.

According to Steven Kirsch Pfizers own data says the vax kill 6 children while saving one.

TFNT3: Do the vaccines kill more people than they save?

Kirsch estimates approx 150K - 200K deaths in the US so far and we're only a few months in. He's offered anyone $1M USD to prove him wrong but there have been no takers.

I personally see the mrna technology as more of a slow-kill bio-weapon/warfare and we won't see the true impact on global health for 2-10 yrs as people are gradually sickened with cancers, auto-immune disorders, and a myriad of other illnesses and disabilities which will never be attributed to the mrna tech.

ACIP comment 8-30-21

Regulations.gov

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VRBPAC.pdf

Steve Kirsch (@stkirsch) • gab.com - Gab Social
https://twitter.com/stkirsch

 

[Steve_K]

The $64,000 question...

 

[Steve_K]

...the 150K-200K doesn't include the thousands of spontaneous abortions and fetal deaths likely due to the mrna.

https://tinyurl.com/5ysfm9pm

 

[Steve_K]

Covid mRNA Inoculation Toxicology Report:
Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19? - ScienceDirect

"Thus, our extremely conservative estimate for risk-benefit ratio is about 5/1. In plain English, people in the 65+ demographic are five times as likely to die from the inoculation as from COVID-19 under the most favorable assumptions! This demographic is the most vulnerable to adverse effects from COVID-19. As the age demographics go below about 35 years old, the chances of death from COVID-19 become very small, and when they go below 18, become negligible.

It should be remembered that the deaths from the inoculations shown in VAERS are short-term only (˜six months for those inoculated initially), and for children, extremely short-term (˜one month). Intermediate and long-term deaths remain to be identified, and are possible from ADE, autoimmune effects, further clotting and vascular diseases, etc., that take time to develop. Thus, the long-term cost-benefit ratio under the best-case scenario could well be on the order of 10/1, 20/1, or more for all the demographics, increasing with decreasing age, and an order-of-magnitude higher under real-world scenarios!”

 

[dqhall]

Covid mRNA Inoculation Toxicology Report:
Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19? - ScienceDirect

"Thus, our extremely conservative estimate for risk-benefit ratio is about 5/1. In plain English, people in the 65+ demographic are five times as likely to die from the inoculation as from COVID-19 under the most favorable assumptions! This demographic is the most vulnerable to adverse effects from COVID-19. As the age demographics go below about 35 years old, the chances of death from COVID-19 become very small, and when they go below 18, become negligible.

It should be remembered that the deaths from the inoculations shown in VAERS are short-term only (˜six months for those inoculated initially), and for children, extremely short-term (˜one month). Intermediate and long-term deaths remain to be identified, and are possible from ADE, autoimmune effects, further clotting and vascular diseases, etc., that take time to develop. Thus, the long-term cost-benefit ratio under the best-case scenario could well be on the order of 10/1, 20/1, or more for all the demographics, increasing with decreasing age, and an order-of-magnitude higher under real-world scenarios!”

Someone should sue you for practicing medicine without a license.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I am no expert on this but here is a study.

https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/u...nalyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

J. Bart Classen, the author of the paper and a long-time known anti-vacinationist, presents a distinctly personal opinion as scientific fact. Many respected professional organizations have called his work "without evidence and entirely speculative." People, please trust the vast majority of experts who say that covid vaccines are vastly safer than getting covid, instead of cherry-picking people with MD after their name and trying to judge the validity of their work, unless you also have an MD after your name and are qualified to review technical papers in that field.