German 'hypervaccinator' gets 217 coronavirus shots; researchers find no ill effects, good immune response

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German researchers have examined a “hypervaccinated” man they say received more than 200 coronavirus shots without any noticeable side effects or harm to his immune system.

Their findings, published Monday in the Lancet Infectious Diseases, a medical journal, indicate that coronavirus vaccines have a “good degree of tolerability,” the researchers said, although they noted this was an isolated case of “extraordinary hypervaccination.”

“We learned about his case via newspaper articles,” Kilian Schober, one of the study’s authors, said in a statement. “We then contacted him and invited him to undergo various tests. … He was very interested in doing so.”

Going into the study, the researchers had speculated that having so many shots could cause his immune system to become fatigued.

But in fact, the researchers found that the man had more of these immune cells — known as T-cells — than a control group that had received the standard three-dose vaccine regimen. They also did not detect any fatigue in these cells, which they said were just as effective as those of people who had received a typical number of coronavirus shots.

The researchers made it clear that despite their findings, they “do not endorse hypervaccination as a strategy to enhance adaptive immunity.”
 

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German researchers have examined a “hypervaccinated” man they say received more than 200 coronavirus shots without any noticeable side effects or harm to his immune system.

Their findings, published Monday in the Lancet Infectious Diseases, a medical journal, indicate that coronavirus vaccines have a “good degree of tolerability,” the researchers said, although they noted this was an isolated case of “extraordinary hypervaccination.”

“We learned about his case via newspaper articles,” Kilian Schober, one of the study’s authors, said in a statement. “We then contacted him and invited him to undergo various tests. … He was very interested in doing so.”

Going into the study, the researchers had speculated that having so many shots could cause his immune system to become fatigued.

But in fact, the researchers found that the man had more of these immune cells — known as T-cells — than a control group that had received the standard three-dose vaccine regimen. They also did not detect any fatigue in these cells, which they said were just as effective as those of people who had received a typical number of coronavirus shots.

The researchers made it clear that despite their findings, they “do not endorse hypervaccination as a strategy to enhance adaptive immunity.”
Give him a decade and see what happens.
 
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Why would a vaccine "weaken" someone's immune system?

Those of us with autoimmune disorders are wary of a too strong immune system. One of the benefits of chemo was a 5 years cessation of seasonal allergies.
 
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Wasn't the window for "you'll see" on the COVID vaccines 1 or 2 years? (Almost 3 years and I'm still not dead.)
It was supposed to be bodies piled in the streets by now but…
 
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The ever lengthening “you’ll see!”window.
Not even close. Those who said that it caused heart problems were mocked mercilessly. They were right. Those who said it causes long term damage may or may not be right.
 
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Not even close. Those who said that it caused heart problems were mocked mercilessly. They were right.

They weren't. The doom sayers and vaccine 'skeptics' were mocked for being ill-informed, but those who actually looked at the literature and reported what was being found weren't.

That there were adverse reactions involving heart issues have been acknowledged from some of the early surveys and studies on COVID-19 vaccine adverse reactions. The earliest link I can find in the literature is May 2020 - before the vaccine roll out actually began. There are multiple studies from late Dec-2020 and early 2021. There are literally hundreds of papers published on the topic.

Analysis of these studies have found that COVID-19 vaccines caused heart problems (myocarditis and/or pericarditis) in a range of between an extra 1 to 17 cases per 100,000 across the general populace. However, much depends on the type of vaccine (higher risk with the Moderna vaccine), the interval between vaccines (higher risk with an under 4 week interval) and the sex, age and genetic background of the individual receiving the vaccine. The highest risk categories are men aged 12-19, where cases are as high as 270 per 100,000 two-dose vaccine regimens.

What that means is this:

In the general population, you'd expect to see between 0.8 and 16.7 cases of myo/pericarditis per 100,000 people.
In a COVID-19 vaccinated group, you'd expect to see an extra 1.6 to 34.2 cases per 100,000 people.

So, your risk of myo/pericarditis basically doubles - but it still remains incredibly low. You go from a likelihood of 0.0008%-0.0167% to a likelyhood of 0.0016-0.0342%.

To put that into contect, for those people who have had a COVID-19 infection (but no vaccination), you'd expect to see between 30 and 64 cases per 100,000 people (0.03-0.06% likelihood).

Plus, realise that the vast majority (75% to 90% plus) of heart problems related to COVID-19 vaccinations are minor, transient and temporary.
 
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They weren't. The doom sayers and vaccine 'skeptics' were mocked for being ill-informed, but those who actually looked at the literature and reported what was being found weren't.

That there were adverse reactions involving heart issues have been acknowledged from some of the early surveys and studies on COVID-19 vaccine adverse reactions. The earliest link I can find in the literature is May 2020 - before the vaccine roll out actually began. There are multiple studies from late Dec-2020 and early 2021. There are literally hundreds of papers published on the topic.

Analysis of these studies have found that COVID-19 vaccines caused heart problems (myocarditis and/or pericarditis) in a range of between an extra 1 to 17 cases per 100,000 across the general populace. However, much depends on the type of vaccine (higher risk with the Moderna vaccine), the interval between vaccines (higher risk with an under 4 week interval) and the sex, age and genetic background of the individual receiving the vaccine. The highest risk categories are men aged 12-19, where cases are as high as 270 per 100,000 two-dose vaccine regimens.

What that means is this:

In the general population, you'd expect to see between 0.8 and 16.7 cases of myo/pericarditis per 100,000 people.
In a COVID-19 vaccinated group, you'd expect to see an extra 1.6 to 34.2 cases per 100,000 people.

So, your risk of myo/pericarditis basically doubles - but it still remains incredibly low. You go from a likelihood of 0.0008%-0.0167% to a likelyhood of 0.0016-0.0342%.

To put that into contect, for those people who have had a COVID-19 infection (but no vaccination), you'd expect to see between 30 and 64 cases per 100,000 people (0.03-0.06% likelihood).

Plus, realise that the vast majority (75% to 90% plus) of heart problems related to COVID-19 vaccinations are minor, transient and temporary.
Nonsense. Those who said early on that they/kid/parent had a heart attack, pericarditis, or myocarditis were dismissed as fearmongers overdramatizing an exceedingly rare case, that the vaccine was totally "safe and effective" and everyone was encouraged/demanded to give it to their kids, even though kids are at almost zero risk.

Perhaps you forget how insanely vicious some people got over this, attacking others, cutting off friends, not seeing their families, and allowing the elderly to die alone incarcerated in hospitals and nursing homes. (Where in 4 states, governors like Cuomo sent virus-positive elderly people into nursing homes - the vulnerable group - to infect others, causing thousands of deaths. Nothing has come of this legally).

In reality, there was a significant concern for young people, and even when that became obvious, the PTB kept insisting on it, and that anyone with concerns was a conspiracy theorist or an (weird pejorative) "anti-vaxxer" to be avoided, even if they/their kids/parents had every vaccine common to the age group.

It was finally admitted THIS YEAR, 2024, in the study of 99 million here:


This just came out too, the past couple weeks. Two new and serious side effects being admitted: "The largest vaccine safety study to date has identified two new, but very rare, side effects associated with covid-19 vaccines—transverse myelitis and acute disseminated encephalomyelitis."


"The study, published in Vaccine, confirmed previously identified rare safety signals for myocarditis and pericarditis after a mRNA vaccine (Pfizer and Moderna) and Guillain-Barré syndrome and cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) after viral vector vaccines (AstraZeneca).1

There was a statistically significant increase in Guillain-Barré syndrome within 42 days after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine—76 events were expected and 190 events were observed (observed to expected ratio 2.49; 95% confidence interval 2.15 to 2.87). A statistically significant increased risk of CVST was also observed following the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine (OE ratio 3.23; 95% CI 2.51 to 4.09).

The study also confirmed significantly higher risks of myocarditis following the first, second, and third doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines as well as pericarditis after the first and fourth dose of Moderna vaccine, and third dose of AstraZeneca vaccine in the 42 days following vaccination.

As well as these known risks the researchers also identified a possible safety signal for acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (AEDM) and transverse myelitis with both viral vector and mRNA vaccines."

This was then further investigated by a second study, also published in Vaccine, which analysed a separate dataset for 6.7 million people in Australia.2

Of course now - after the fact - all risks are "small and rare", which matters not to the victims - the victim who statistically would have been just fine if they never complied, since we already know that natural immunity has the same or better protection that two doses of the jab- finally admitted in 2023.
Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds
 
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Of course now - after the fact - all risks are "small and rare"
That is the case for everything the FDA approves. Indeed most drugs I see advertised on television today have the potential for "serious" side effects.

A side effect is considered serious if the result is: death; life-threatening; hospitalization; disability or permanent damage; or exposure prior to conception or during pregnancy caused birth defect.

Nobody ever claimed these vaccines were perfect. But they went through clinical trials that demonstrated the benefits far outweighed the risks. For that reason, they were approved.
 
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That is the case for everything the FDA approves. Indeed most drugs I see advertised on television today have the potential for "serious" side effects.

A side effect is considered serious if the result is: death; life-threatening; hospitalization; disability or permanent damage; or exposure prior to conception or during pregnancy caused birth defect.

Nobody ever claimed these vaccines were perfect. But they went through clinical trials that demonstrated the benefits far outweighed the risks. For that reason, they were approved.
It was a massive moneymaker and that is why they were approved. In reality, we already know that natural immunity was better and more protective, a fact finally admitted in 2023, although everyone who got it early on and never got it again knew this.
 
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It was a massive moneymaker and that is why they were approved. In reality, we already know that natural immunity was better and more protective, a fact finally admitted in 2023, although everyone who got it early on and never got it again knew this.
In reality, acquiring 'natural immunity' got over a million Americans killed. The idea that it would somehow have been better if we hadn't had covid vaccines is simply insane -- it has no connection to reality. Yes, the mRNA vaccines do cause pericarditis, something that was quickly detected and quantified by the monitoring systems put in place for precisely that reason -- to identify rare problems like this. (And I don't recall anyone mocking the idea that the vaccines might be causing pericarditis -- who was doing this mocking?) Guess what? Getting covid also causes pericarditis, and more frequently than the vaccines. And unlike the vaccines, covid also causes substantial increases in the risk of stroke, heart attack, diabetes (Type I and Type II), and dementia, as well as a broader reduction in IQ.
 
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