Starbucks' plain red holiday cups stir up controversy

[Crowns&Laurels]

Then don't act all surprised when people dismiss your claims.

I don't believe you even realize what I'm talking about, unlike the others on here. You and I haven't conversed much.

 

[super animator]

I don't believe you even realize what I'm talking about, unlike the others on here. You and I haven't conversed much.

Attacking an opponent is a sign of desperation. Which you did in this case.

 

[DaisyDay]

I don't believe you even realize what I'm talking about, unlike the others on here. You and I haven't conversed much.

So why not post a link since you say you already googled it and found what you were looking for.

As I said before, I googled and got back this thread, your comment, and general stuff on gay marriage ceremonies in the UK. In the 30 seconds I spent, "gays sabotage heterosexual marriage in England" yielded nothing about any gays actually sabotaging heterosexual marriages.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

So why not post a link since you say you already googled it and found what you were looking for.

As I said before, I googled and got back this thread, your comment, and general stuff on gay marriage ceremonies in the UK. In the 30 seconds I spent, "gays sabotage heterosexual marriage in England" yielded nothing about any gays actually sabotaging heterosexual marriages.

The need for a source doesn't pertain to gay marriage ceremonies- you don't know what's going on either
For the sake of thread, let's stop derailing it.

 

[super animator]

The need for a source doesn't pertain to gay marriage ceremonies- you don't know what's going on either
For the sake of thread, let's stop derailing it.

You are the one who brought it up in the first place.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

You are the one who brought it up in the first place.

Do you even know what I brought up

You should, as opposed to the other poster. I'm simply at a loss to this discussion right now. It has run it's course.

 

[Blue Wren]

Well the UK seems to treat Christianity like a disposable red cup. From an American's perspective, the UK is slowly growing as intolerant to Christianity as China has been. I heard about things over there that make bakers selling cakes to gay couples look like nothing.

That isn't true, no. They simply do not throw temper tantrums, over coffee cup decorations.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

That isn't true, no. They simply do not throw temper tantrums, over coffee cup decorations.

Being numb to political correctness is a direct symptom of social apostasy. I don't agree with the amount of sensitivity the US has with these things, but at the very least, they are aware of what's going on. And that is important.

Don't underestimate the American Christian, that's all I got to say. We are empowered here

 

[Willtor]

Being numb to political correctness is a direct symptom of social apostasy. I don't agree with the amount of sensitivity the US has with these things, but at the very least, they are aware of what's going on. And that is important.

Don't underestimate the American Christian, that's all I got to say. We are empowered here

It's politically correct to remove snowflakes from coffee cups in Winter? Wow. Maybe "PC" really _has_ gone too far.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

It's politically correct to remove snowflakes from coffee cups in Winter? Wow. Maybe "PC" really _has_ gone too far.

Why else would you remove such from a cup

There is a trend going on among many businesses, and Starbucks is another snowflake

 

[bhsmte]

Why else would you remove such from a cup

There is a trend going on among many businesses, and Starbucks is another snowflake

Should these businesses follow your lead?

 

[amanuensis63]

It's politically correct to remove snowflakes from coffee cups in Winter? Wow. Maybe "PC" really _has_ gone too far.

In reality I am bothered by Political Correctness at its extremes but I fear that some folks on the right end of the political spectrum want political correctness overturned just so they can be as offensive as they like without consequence.

There's a fine line in society of not being overtly offensive to people and not being so sensitive that literally no one can speak to you unless they know the proper code words.

I'm a pretty hard lefty liberal and one day I was in a discussion in which I was actually making a positive point about female leadership in corporate America but I used a phrase ("Pink Collar") and one woman felt I was being offensive to women (if she had actually listened to what I had said she would realize I was saying something VERY pro-woman...I live with a pretty hardcore feminist!) Instead I found that I had somehow in this woman's confusion turned into some sort of rabid male hegemonist! It was weird. Sometimes "sensitivity" is a raw nerve trying to get itself touched.

I dislike PC in the extreme but I see a real value for rational political correctness.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The church council over in the UK is struggling to maintain even the simplest of things.

Assuming this is true, that's just simple incompetence and bureaucracy... nothing new under the sun...

If homosexuals sabotaged heterosexual marriage ceremonies here, protestants would go absolutely mental.

If they did it anywhere, we'd never hear the end of it...

That didn't happen over there. Because the Church of Canterbury has lost it's voice.

Now that part I believe -- "It didn't happen over there." I've been saying that since it because obvious that it was a fabrication.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Why else would you remove such from a cup

Normally, business decisions are made with increase in profits or reduction in costs, in mind. Or both. I suspect that is what primarily drove the push for the simpler and IMO, classier designs for their cups this year.

But typical Americans, we don't like things with class. We like things cheap and obnoxious. Look at our cars. Look at how we advertise the crap we buy and sell. Look at our leading presidential candidates!

 

[Willtor]

Why else would you remove such from a cup

Maybe for some artsy-fartsy reason? Seriously, snowflake removal is not anti-Christian. No, seriously.

There is a trend going on among many businesses, and Starbucks is another snowflake

I'd say I'd take your word for it, but... honestly, I can't, at this point.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Why else would you remove such from a cup

So that the unused cups are still usable after winter is over?

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Normally, business decisions are made with increase in profits or reduction in costs, in mind. Or both. I suspect that is what primarily drove the push for the simpler and IMO, classier designs for their cups this year.

But typical Americans, we don't like things with class. We like things cheap and obnoxious. Look at our cars. Look at how we advertise the crap we buy and sell. Look at our leading presidential candidates!

America is a predominantly Protestant country. There is really something to be lost in taking away Christmas decorations.

That's why people are angry.

 

[Willtor]

In reality I am bothered by Political Correctness at its extremes but I fear that some folks on the right end of the political spectrum want political correctness overturned just so they can be as offensive as they like without consequence.

There's a fine line in society of not being overtly offensive to people and not being so sensitive that literally no one can speak to you unless they know the proper code words.

I'm a pretty hard lefty liberal and one day I was in a discussion in which I was actually making a positive point about female leadership in corporate America but I used a phrase ("Pink Collar") and one woman felt I was being offensive to women (if she had actually listened to what I had said she would realize I was saying something VERY pro-woman...I live with a pretty hardcore feminist!) Instead I found that I had somehow in this woman's confusion turned into some sort of rabid male hegemonist! It was weird. Sometimes "sensitivity" is a raw nerve trying to get itself touched.

I dislike PC in the extreme but I see a real value for rational political correctness.

Sure. I completely agree with this. Political correctness is subservient to reason, of course. But, as you say, it's nice to live in a society where people jump down the throat of someone who uses a racial slur.

 

[TLK Valentine]

America is a predominantly Protestant country. There is really something to be lost in taking away Christmas decorations.

That's why people are angry.

Why should a Jew be forced to celebrate Christmas, anyway?

 

[Willtor]

So that the unused cups are still usable after winter is over?

This is it. This is totally it. Every year, before, they had unused cups and they threw them away. It was bad for the environment and it was bad for profit margins. One stone, two birds.