Star Collides with Earth!

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Idolatry went rampant in Israel in King Solomon's time, since he married so many foreign wives, and Israel paid dearly for it.

Once again, astrology is a forbidden practice, as it is idolatry. The fact that they practiced it, shows how much they paid attention to what God said. The ten northern tribes were the first to pay for disobedience.

The first two Commandments forbids astrology.
The first commandment forbids Christianity too, as well as your worship of the Bible. But this thread, and this forum aren't appropriate for apologetics.
 
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The first commandment forbids Christianity too...

No it doesn't:
  • [bible]Galatians 3:24[/bible]
But this thread, and this forum aren't appropriate for apologetics.

Must ... resist ... bait ... :mad:
 
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Ah. Watching for signs in the star is astrology. Unless it is a sign for the birth of Jesus. Then it suddenly is something different. Right. Double standard much?
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" ...unless its Jesus. Then it is suddenly something different. Jesus says he sits at God's right-hand, but YHWH says no one sits there. Both of them are supposedly the same person even though they both talk to each other in 2nd person and about each other in 3rd person, and if they were the same person, there would be a whole string of contradictions. But God can't contradict himself ..except when he does, (and he does a lot) because then its always "something different." Somehow God can be burdened by vanity, jealousy, vengeance and wrath, -yet be without sin at the same time, and its never a contradiction simply because someone says they can't believe that it is one.
 
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The 3 wise men where the very first Christians. They where astrologers who used the Star of David to find both the location and time of Jesus' birth.
they were Zoroasterians. being used by God as an example of why wise men should worship Jesus and bringing him gifts to be used for the capital to flee to Egypt. To be a Christian is to realize the sacrifice Jesus made was on your behalf, there is no indicator that they had any idea of the crucial elements of the faith. this is nothing more than wishful thinking. it is better to stick to the text and avoid idle speculation
 
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Not astrological signs --- God wouldn't contradict Himself.

Really?


Matthew 2 1Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
 
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Ah. Watching for signs in the star is astrology. Unless it is a sign for the birth of Jesus. Then it suddenly is something different. Right. Double standard much?

Not hardly --- this was no normal star. In fact, it wasn't really a star at all --- but I won't get into that here.

Suffice it to say, God had Moses use the language of the observer in predicting this phenomenon, and Matthew used the same words to show its fulfillment.
 
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Hi, Lemmings :wave:

The 3 wise men where the very first Christians.

Technically that's not true --- as that term was used first at Antioch in 41 AD:
  • [bible]Acts 11:26[/bible]
lemmings said:
They where astrologers who used the Star of David to find both the location and time of Jesus' birth.

They were wise men (possibly kings), and they used the Star of Bethlehem, not the Star of David.

Incidentally, just to quell a couple of myths:
  • The wise men didn't show up until two years after Jesus' birth.
  • There were many more than three - many more.
  • They were never at the manger, He was in a house by then.
 
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Not hardly --- this was no normal star. In fact, it wasn't really a star at all --- but I won't get into that here.

Suffice it to say, God had Moses use the language of the observer in predicting this phenomenon, and Matthew used the same words to show its fulfillment.
Whether it was a star or something else is irrelevant. It's astrology alright. Astrology is not merely concerned with stars, but with all kinds of 'heavenly' phenomena.

No amount of squirming makes your double standard any less of a double standard.
 
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Not hardly --- this was no normal star. In fact, it wasn't really a star at all --- but I won't get into that here.

Suffice it to say, God had Moses use the language of the observer in predicting this phenomenon, and Matthew used the same words to show its fulfillment.

Matthew describes the wise men saying star and how would this star signify the birth of a king without the use of astrology?
 
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No amount of squirming makes your double standard any less of a double standard.

Wanna squirm, Tom --- answer this simple question:
  • How did the star disappear, then reappear later and lead the Wise Men to a specific address?
[bible]Matthew 2:9-11[/bible]

Anyone else who thinks this is astrology-in-action, feel free to answer, too.

(The tough question is coming up.)
 
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Wow. Does all this mean this couldn't ever really happen?

"The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of the water--the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter." Rev. 8:10,11

:eek:


Not really, A metorite may have been considered a star by those who wrote the texts.
 
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