New Propellantless Propulsion Drive - That Physics Says Shouldn’t Work - Just Produced Enough Thrust to Overcome Earth’s Gravity | The Debrief

[timewerx]

the obvious message was, this is a poor investment.

I agree and that's a much nicer way to say it.


instead of this:

I'm a GWD coz I don't throw D ( dollars )
at d ( dumb) things.

Where you sound mean and insulting. Doesn't make sense why you would respond that way.

 

[timewerx]

So much assuming!
Someone said DDD for "dude deep debt"

At least I wrote the meaning of the abbreviation.

You're assuming anyone who is in debt is asking for money or made bad investments.

The debt wasn't mine to begin with. I inherited it from parents.

And you live in Hong Kong. Are you a citizen? I have a relative there and my relative told me Hong Kong citizens have it easy compared to the rest of the world so don't be quick to judge.

Ironically, I have worked in Hong Kong for a short period and never got paid that much my whole life then hospital service is free. You have no idea how fortunate you are in terms of money compared to the rest of the world. Maybe except for owning cars but public transport is one of the best and cheap.

 

[Ophiolite]

Is dumb a thing?

Only in a niche colloquial sense. However things can be dumb. Estrid was clearly, by my reading, calling things dumb, not people and certainly not you.
And my guess at GWD, because it fit with her message and your DDD, Girl With Dollars. Your reading of mean was a mis-reading.

 

[timewerx]

Only in a niche colloquial sense. However things can be dumb. Estrid was clearly, by my reading, calling things dumb, not people and certainly not you.

I got your point. Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[timewerx]

And my guess at GWD, because it fit with her message and your DDD, Girl With Dollars. Your reading of mean was a mis-reading.

No way I would have guessed it. You must be smart or I'm actually dumb.

Anyway, as courtesy, I did write the meaning of DDD.

I inherited a large debt from parents. I never hated my parents for it and I still love them as much as before. Never have I dreamt of replacing my parents but the debt really made my life incredibly difficult and extremely stressful for many years and many more years to come, it literally almost killed me by giving me heart attacks.

 

[Ophiolite]

No way I would have guessed it. You must be smart or I'm actually dumb.

Anyway, as courtesy, I did write the meaning of DDD

I doubt either is true. Plus, we don't know if I got it right.

Yes, it is courteous to explain abbreviations. On the other hand, responding with an unexplained abbreviation is actually a recognition of the wit of yours and an implicit salute to the expectation you'll likely get it.

Also, Estrid has a particular truncated style that has to be adapted to. It used to annoy me; now I accept it for what it is.

Sorry to hear about the financial problems you had and the impact they have had on your life.

 

[Astrid]

I doubt either is true. Plus, we don't know if I got it right.

Yes, it is courteous to explain abbreviations. On the other hand, responding with an unexplained abbreviation is actually a recognition of the wit of yours and an implicit salute to the expectation you'll likely get it.

Also, Estrid has a particular truncated style that has to be adapted to. It used to annoy me; now I accept it for what it is.

Sorry to hear about the financial problems you had and the impact they have had on your life.

For "truncated style" , behold " Singlish" which
learned a little of while living in Singapore.

 

[Astrid]

At least I wrote the meaning of the abbreviation.

You're assuming anyone who is in debt is asking for money or made bad investments.

The debt wasn't mine to begin with. I inherited it from parents.

And you live in Hong Kong. Are you a citizen? I have a relative there and my relative told me Hong Kong citizens have it easy compared to the rest of the world so don't be quick to judge.

Ironically, I have worked in Hong Kong for a short period and never got paid that much my whole life then hospital service is free. You have no idea how fortunate you are in terms of money compared to the rest of the world. Maybe except for owning cars but public transport is one of the best and cheap.

Quick to judge...

Maybe ask or observe before assuming about me?

I'm sorry of you found what's not there in my words,
about making bad investments, debt.
This super propulsion thung was all I referred to.
Looks like a bad investment.

Amazon wasn't!

Born in HK. Financially I've had it super easy.

But I triple guarantee you'd not think I've had it easy or
volunteer to see how what ive been thru would suit you
if you knew.

HK is hypercompetitice, stressful. Very crowded and expensive.

I for sure have it good, a nice flat at Repulse Bay and
good income.

But I've been in sad parts of HK, even the Walled City before it was demolished, many areas of mainland,
Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam...it's not like I haven't seen
things. With stout companion!! I'm only like 4 ft 11 inches
and 90 some lbs.

Where in HK were you? For how long?

I studied in NYC, have been to maybe 20 states.

Im a fan of USA and will be more if / when you get a good leader!
Anyway sorry for misunderstandings, I've no wish for
any unpleasantness w you.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Plus, we don't know if I got it right.

She says so here:

So much assuming!
Someone said DDD for "dude deep debt"

In a try at faint humour- what Americans find funny
( or believable) always puzzles me-
I said I'm girl with dollars coz I don't make dumb
investments.

I assumed that whether or not gwd was translated,
the obvious message was, this is a poor investment.

But regardless, I gotta declare you winner in the assumption derby.

 

[Hans Blaster]

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Non-equilibrium thermodynamics aren't a violation of "the laws of physics".

 

[Astrid]

Non-equilibrium thermodynamics aren't a violation of "the laws of physics".

Of course.

 

[timewerx]

HK is hypercompetitice, stressful. Very crowded and expensive.

Lived in Taipo and then in the flat above Shatin mall for two years back in 2009 and worked in a supply chain company nearby.

I shared the flat with few other people.

I was able save most of my income in HK and my income in HK was 10x more than I was making at home. So to me that was the dream. It's just unfortunate my contract isn't a permanent position, otherwise, I'd never have left HK.

I personally found the cost of living in HK cheaper than in many other places and citizens have perks that will make Americans drool.

But I also believe you that it can be expensive to live in HK for example, if you want to live in and around the business district. I wouldn't do that personally. I'd rather commute longer distances. The train is cheap and fast anyway and I have no other "business" in the business district other than work and maybe just a little bit of shopping for inexpensive things which doesn't happen very often. I'm mostly just work <---> home. No schedules, no plans. Great way to save money and I do the same wherever I went.

I studied in NYC

Many Americans themselves wouldn't have afforded it.

HK is just a different world. Much less financial pressures unless you're forcing yourself into a lifestyle that's expensive/unsustainable. I can understand the strong temptation to spend/waste money in HK but if your goal is to save money, make good investments, I found it much easier to do in HK than other places. With less pressure, you're less likely to make unwanted risks and make informed decisions.

In other countries, it just feels like people are out to rob you of money all the time. Difficult to run an honest business without exploiting the weaknesses of other people.

 

[DennisF]

It looks so similar to these videos, but several years older on a much lower budget.

Electrostatically charged plates with dielectric backing. Very similar concept and probably the same principle/tech.

However, my money is on tech that attempts to manipulate the "ambient gravitational energy" which is simply the gravitational energy generated by the all of the mass in the Universe which is roughly equivalent to gravitational force at the event horizon of a black hole out to a distance beyond visible bounds of our Universe. We don't feel it because it's acting upon us on all directions. One example of utilizing that force is by creating an energy field that can partially or fully block gravity fields so that a monodirectional gravity field is "filtered out" right next to the blocking field. Acceleration rates of such spacecraft at the pinnacle of development will be comparable to acceleration rates of matter near the event horizon of black holes but without the destructive tidal effects associated with black holes. The extreme gravitational gradients will also permit faster than light speeds via "frame dragging" or "Lense-Thirring Effect" allowing light years of distance covered in just a very short period time in terms of hours, not years.

It is not clear that what NASA discovered is anything beyond the electric term in the Lorentz force equation, applied in a novel way. A few decades ago, Biefeld and Brown demonstrated to the U.S. military something that also was based on electric-field asymmetry. Is this a renewal of the B-B work?

 

[timewerx]

It is not clear that what NASA discovered is anything beyond the electric term in the Lorentz force equation, applied in a novel way. A few decades ago, Biefeld and Brown demonstrated to the U.S. military something that also was based on electric-field asymmetry. Is this a renewal of the B-B work?

The force fields are different.

To be honest, I don't know anymore what causes it.

In my observation, the thrust is highest during the charging phase as the electrodes accumulate or lose electrons. The thrust is reduced but not totally gone as soon as the plates are fully charged.

It doesn't affect gravity. Affecting gravity is where the money is.

Because NOTE that if you could affect gravity, you're not just dealing with Earth's gravity but also the collective gravity of the whole universe.

The gravity of the whole Universe is incredible. If could somehow produce a "bubble" of gravity-free space anywhere within our universe, the gravity field gradient at the boundary of that bubble would exceed that of the Event Horizon of a Black Hole.

Most people think if you have anti-gravity device that could block gravity 100% and place it under an object, the object would simply float. Otherwise, not achieve directional flight unless it also used another propulsion system like a jet or rocket engine. That would be the case if you're only blocking the Earth's gravity. But since it's also blocking the gravity of the entire universe, what would happen is the object will be accelerated to relativistic speeds at very small fraction of a second, eventually reaching the speed of light in a very short period of time and possibly even exceed the speed of light. (through "Frame dragging")

The collective gravity of the universe would be omnidirectional since we're inside of it. Creating gravity-free bubble means the boundary just outside the bubble would only be experiencing (incredible) gravitational forces in one direction (away from that bubble) and any object in there would be accelerated away from it at insane rates.

You only need to block a small fraction of gravity, way less than 1% of the entire universe's collective gravity to propel a spacecraft vertically and out into space.

 

[DennisF]

"The force fields are different. To be honest, I don't know anymore what causes it."

Then how do you know they are different?

 

[timewerx]

"The force fields are different. To be honest, I don't know anymore what causes it."

Then how do you know they are different?

You can literally see them in dim light. Tiny, faint electrical discharges curve with the fields that is basically an arch above the electrodes.

The asymmetry of the field is perpendicular compared to BB effect and the direction of thrust is also perpendicular against the arrangement of electrodes compared to BB effect. The direction of thrust is towards one electrode in BB effect. This one is towards the empty space above both electrodes.

I think it could be enhanced with powerful electromagnetic fields and high rpm rotation of the electrodes. Something I never did with the experiments. The main purpose of spinning the electrodes against strong magnetic fields is to delay voltage breakdown in air to much higher voltages and much higher electrostatic forces to be generated.

It's all speculation though. Not really sure if increasing the electrostatic forces will work.

 

[DennisF]

You can literally see them in dim light. Tiny, faint electrical discharges curve with the fields that is basically an arch above the electrodes.

The asymmetry of the field is perpendicular compared to BB effect and the direction of thrust is also perpendicular against the arrangement of electrodes compared to BB effect. The direction of thrust is towards one electrode in BB effect. This one is towards the empty space above both electrodes.

I think it could be enhanced with powerful electromagnetic fields and high rpm rotation of the electrodes. Something I never did with the experiments. The main purpose of spinning the electrodes against strong magnetic fields is to delay voltage breakdown in air to much higher voltages and much higher electrostatic forces to be generated.

It's all speculation though. Not really sure if increasing the electrostatic forces will work.

I get the impression that you have not taken undergraduate electromagnetic fields theory. Vector fields theory gives you the capability to calculate fields under physical constraints so that you can determine whether the existing Maxwell theory predicts what you are observing.

 

[timewerx]

I get the impression that you have not taken undergraduate electromagnetic fields theory. Vector fields theory gives you the capability to calculate fields under physical constraints so that you can determine whether the existing Maxwell theory predicts what you are observing.

I do not have qualifications for it and I have given up on it.

 

[DennisF]

True, until there is a paradigm shift and we change the Laws of Physics. If the Laws of Physics were immutable there would no longer be any need for physicists.

This raises the question of whether the laws of physics are what their understanding is according to scientific work or whether the "laws of physics" refers to the nature of the physical world apart from how well or poorly humans understand it. Philosophically and theologically it is the latter, and if we are studying science it is the former.