Stand Back and Stand By

[The IbanezerScrooge]

As Maya Angelou famously said “When someone shows you who they are, believe them”.

He didn’t ‘mis-speak’ he said exactly what he wanted to say, like he always has.

And we know this because Wallace literally gave him the words to say, "Stand Down". Nope. "stand back and stand by"

 

[KCfromNC]

"Act", as in?

Trump's call to watch polls 'very carefully' raises concerns of voter intimidation

 

[KCfromNC]

I find it absurd that Chris Wallace would ask Trump to condemn White supremacy; as if he had never done it before. Trump has condemned white supremacy, KKK, Nazi’s etc. probably more than any other president!

Weird he couldn't do it during the debate, then.

 

[KCfromNC]

Trump should have just blanket condemned white supremacy rather than hemming and hawing about it. Could have saved himself a ton of fuss.

Or come out with a clear statement after the debate. I mean, it isn't like he's particularly shy about sharing his feelings.

 

[KCfromNC]

Well, I think I'll go with what the transcript says Trump said and not your foolishness or your dishonest representation of what he said.



So then, Biden was not asked to, and has not, condemned left wing violence.

Speaking of "dishonest representation" - Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned violent protests in the last three months

False. Before he spoke out against violence in Portland at the end of August, Biden had condemned violent protests soon after the death of George Floyd on May 25 and in subsequent speeches.​

 

[ZNP]

It was in the paragraph of mine you quoted:

Everything in his response communicated his disinterest and lack of concern regarding white supremacists. He had to be cajoled into denouncing them and only did so in the most minimal, half-hearted way he could imagine before trying to change the subject back to antifa. Whatever you think he meant by "stand back and stand by", the point he was getting across was that he's not concerned about them.​

I don't think he is disinterested, I think he supports a white, patriotic militia in the same way that Hitler supported the Brown Shirts when he first came to power. That is his base. I think they have been maligned as being equivalent to the KKK. They are not a terrorist organization, nor are they a secret criminal cabal. they are the flag waving, love it leave it, everyone gets to carry a rifle in public, drive a pick up, and live in a double wide trailer.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The proud boys have though.


“Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs also posted after the debate that he was "standing by," and he said the president "basically said to go —-- them up."

"President Trump told the proud boys to stand by because someone needs to deal with ANTIFA... well sir! we're ready!!" Biggs wrote.”

Proud Boys say they are 'standing down and standing by' after Trump's debate callout

I asked what your opinion was, not some nut case that you are wrongly and unfairly trying to attach to the president.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Because they are a violent group. These aren’t empty threats.

Prove it

 

[Kenny'sID]

Just say

The images are too explicit for this forum. I will not directly link them. Google “proud boys 4chan stand by messages.”

Just say it....what are the images?

 

[ZNP]

Because they are a violent group. These aren’t empty threats.

Really? Can you post the reference on this?

 

[ZNP]

Proud Boys have been involved in rallies displaying racist imagery, such as confederate flags.

I suspect their tolerance of non-whites is going to vary from cell group to cell group. They seem principally united in rallying around crude symbols of violence, patriarchy, misogyny, and hatred of the Left, rather than overt racism, but they are still a dangerous group.

Can you give us a reference for this.

 

[Kenny'sID]

At ease, stay alert.

Alert for what?

 

[Kentonio]

Prove it

Gosh that was hard..

Proud Boy Arrested On Six Felony Charges In Portland

 

[Kenny'sID]

It was in the paragraph of mine you quoted:

Everything in his response communicated his disinterest and lack of concern regarding white supremacists. He had to be cajoled into denouncing them and only did so in the most minimal, half-hearted way he could imagine before trying to change the subject back to antifa. Whatever you think he meant by "stand back and stand by", the point he was getting across was that he's not concerned about them.​

Thanks anyway.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Trump's call to watch polls 'very carefully' raises concerns of voter intimidation

Yeah, like the concerns if collusion, and a multitude of other things that never happened

 

[Kenny'sID]

Gosh that was hard..

Proud Boy Arrested On Six Felony Charges In Portland

Of course it was easy, very poor and 100% wrong effort.

Because one man broke the law , far from means the group is violent.

 

[Pommer]

I asked what your opinion was, not some nut case that you are wrongly and unfairly trying to attach to the president.

What’s the matter?
Somebody not “debating” to your satisfaction?
Mercy, you have it rough!

 

[Kenny'sID]

What’s the matter?
Somebody not “debating” to your satisfaction?
Mercy, you have it rough!

Alright, if you'd rather no answer fine, but that excuse? Lol

 

[ZNP]

Alert for what?

My opinion -- October will be worse than September, perhaps much, much worse. Layoffs, economic collapse, fires in the West coast will get bad with the Santa Anna winds, perhaps the 3 gorges dam will collapse in China. Also the shenanigans regarding the election will get much worse. You have to realize that this is a very bad time to be a real estate developer that owns hotels and casinos. If his economic situation was bad before, it must be truly catastrophic now. He cannot afford to lose the election. He made it clear in the election he is running on a "law and order" platform and sees that as the biggest distinction between him and Biden. So I expect he will stoke that fire and want to ride in on the white horse bringing law and order to cities torn apart by riots and looting. These protests will grow as more and more people lose their jobs. The hardest hit sector of our economy are the gangs, that may seem like a good thing, but they will use the protests as an opportunity to loot. Businesses will defend themselves with a militia like we saw in Kenosha. He will want groups like the Proud Boys to come in and help maintain order which of course will make things worse, but open the door for him to come in with the feds. I don't think his threat to defund certain states and push them into bankruptcy is an idle threat. I think that is the way he treats anyone who opposes him. Driving states like California, Oregon, and New York into bankruptcy could throw their election into total disarray. He doesn't have to win the vote to win, he only needs to declare martial law to win. If he does that these peaceful protests will erupt into full on riots. This is what he wants them to be "alert" for.

Also, a collapse of the 3 gorges dam would be so catastrophic to China at this point it would make war a foregone conclusion. However, before they can fight a war anywhere they would need to disable the US. EMP's strategically set off in the US would cause the entire power grid to collapse, so not only massive riots but also blackouts.

 

[Kenny'sID]

My opinion -- October will be worse than September, perhaps much, much worse. Layoffs, economic collapse, fires in the West coast will get bad with the Santa Anna winds, perhaps the 3 gorges dam will collapse in China. Also the shenanigans regarding the election will get much worse. You have to realize that this is a very bad time to be a real estate developer that owns hotels and casinos. If his economic situation was bad before, it must be truly catastrophic now. He cannot afford to lose the election. He made it clear in the election he is running on a "law and order" platform and sees that as the biggest distinction between him and Biden. So I expect he will stoke that fire and want to ride in on the white horse bringing law and order to cities torn apart by riots and looting. These protests will grow as more and more people lose their jobs. The hardest hit sector of our economy are the gangs, that may seem like a good thing, but they will use the protests as an opportunity to loot. Businesses will defend themselves with a militia like we saw in Kenosha. He will want groups like the Proud Boys to come in and help maintain order which of course will make things worse, but open the door for him to come in with the feds. I don't think his threat to defund certain states and push them into bankruptcy is an idle threat. I think that is the way he treats anyone who opposes him. Driving states like California, Oregon, and New York into bankruptcy could throw their election into total disarray. He doesn't have to win the vote to win, he only needs to declare martial law to win. If he does that these peaceful protests will erupt into full on riots. This is what he wants them to be "alert" for.

Also, a collapse of the 3 gorges dam would be so catastrophic to China at this point it would make war a foregone conclusion. However, before they can fight a war anywhere they would need to disable the US. EMP's strategically set off in the US would cause the entire power grid to collapse, so not only massive riots but also blackouts.

Cf is made up of all kinds.