Some Surprising Facts About Evolution

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

i guess all you heard was thunder, but never saw the lightning. You have to want to see the lighting before you can believe.

You are destined to Hel and will never see Valhalla heritic. It is Thor not Zuess who throws the lightening bolts.

 

[tanzanos]

Rom 1:18-24 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

If you don't eat your food ; I am going to call the BOGEY MAN!!

 

[tanzanos]

You are destined to Hel and will never see Valhalla heritic. It is Thor not Zuess who throws the lightening bolts.

Barbarian Heretic. I am going to summon Nemesis to take care of your blaspheming ways! Everyone knows Zeus has the patent for the lightning throwing machine!

 

[MoonLancer]

You are destined to Hel and will never see Valhalla heritic. It is Thor not Zuess who throws the lightening bolts.

Odin gave his left eye for me, I respect that. secretly though, i think i might be Finir.

 

[Gracchus]

Rom 1:18-24 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Don't despair, Inan3. I'm sure if you repent, the Lord will forgive you.

 

[Inan3]

Don't despair, Inan3. I'm sure if you repent, the Lord will forgive you.

Thanks for your encouragement And I might add the same goes for you Gracchus. He loves you inspite of your insidious self.

 

[Inan3]

Ever herd of brother wolf? They believed in many many gods, not just one.

and its Sprites, not sprit. so again, please show how belief in a god is inhalant and is non cultural

It's the knowledge within that there is a God that makes them worship regardless of what or who they worship. It's the knowledged of Jesus Christ that brings them to the truth. That is why the gospel is preached.

 

[Inan3]

Really? How does history PROVE that Jesus Christ was a real person? I happen to believe he was but the historical evidence is sadly lacking. AFAIK there is only the one reference in Josephus and that may be a fabrication by a monk who translated Josephus in about 300 AD IIRC. It is almost certain that the passage was "improved" by the translator. [/COLOR]

F.B.

Lie and twist as they may the truth will come one day and every eye will see and those on the wrong side will know that they have rejected their only hope for eternal life in Christ Jesus. It's sad that people would see themselves as nothing more than apes with no purpose for the now but to disprove a God that loves them, and with no hope for the future. What a horrible existence and waste of life.

 

[Inan3]

If you don't eat your food ; I am going to call the BOGEY MAN!!

As the scripture from my quote says, "Professing to be wise they became fools"

 

[Mavros]

It's sad that people would see themselves as nothing more than apes with no purpose for the now but to disprove a God that loves them, and with no hope for the future. What a horrible existence and waste of life.

Its sad that people would see themselves as nothing more then gods slaves with only only purpose is follow his silly "rules".

As atheist i rather live this our only live well then wait so called heaven which dont even exists.

 

[Inan3]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth. [/quote]

And there's proof that Jim Jones and David Koresh walked on the earth. Are you going to worship either of them? At any rate, prove that the Jesus depicted in the Bible exists. You know, the one that rose from the dead after three days and performed all these different miracles. The evidence of the historical record seems surprisingly absent in regards to that Jesus Christ.

Why is it that when it comes to God proof is required, but not with science? What hypocrisy! Jim Jones or Davd Koresh or anyone else you care to mention, or any other religious leader or icon did not die for you but Jesus did. He loved you while you were and are His enemy enough to die for you because He knew without Him you would have no hope of eternal life.

 

[Inan3]

Its sad that people would see themselves as nothing more then gods slaves with only only purpose is follow his silly "rules".

As atheist i rather live this our only live well then wait so called heaven which dont even exists.

That shows you don't know much about Christianity so stop getting your info from all your atheist friends because they don't even have a clue. I am not God's slave, I am His child and any rules are to only guide me in this life, rules are necessary. My purpose though, is much higher than that and I willingly serve my loving and benevolent Father and look forward to the day when I go to Heaven but that certainly is not all there is and I truly hope and pray that you don't miss out on it because of some "silly" idea/s passed on down from one unbeliever to the next. One of my purposes is to show you the truth and that is why I am here on this forum.

 

[Blayz]

One of my purposes is to show you the truth and that is why I am here on this forum.

Your tyrannical god has damned me to hell for all eternity, because I have blashephemed against the holy spirit, which, as Matty D clearly states, is an unforgivable sin, in this life, and the next.

Is this the time to point out how this contradicts the whole "jesus saves" scenario?

 

[Baggins]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth. I don't think there is any proof of Zeus and the boys. I know you like his thunder but you gotta let him go Baggins.

I would dispute the historicity of Jesus. Outside of the bible, which can't be used for proof of an historical Jesus for obvious reasons, there are just 2-3 disputed pieces in Josephus. There is no scholarly concensus on those, but the big guns tend to see them as later inserts.

But even if we accept an historical Jesus it is a much greater leap to accept that he was god.

I would say that the evidence for Zeus existing is no greater or lesser for that of Jesus/god existing; i.e. they both have no evidence.

You find the liklihood that Zeus existed so low as to be negligable, I feel the same way about your god.

: I think I'm going to use this as my signature: What do you think??? :

I can't even post that many emoticons

A trifle egotistical, but go for it, who's going to big you up if you won't do it yourself

 

[Inan3]

Your tyrannical god has damned me to hell for all eternity, because I have blashephemed against the holy spirit, which, as Matty D clearly states, is an unforgivable sin, in this life, and the next.

Is this the time to point out how this contradicts the whole "jesus saves" scenario?

Well Blayz, I have no idea if you have actually blashphemed the Holy Spirit but I would doubt that you have. Many people get this mixed up, even Christians. You may have flippantly said some blasphemous things but blashpheme against the Holy Spirit is a willful and knowledgeable thing. It is something you know you are doing and choose to do in spite of the consequences. God knows the hearts of men. It's not for me or any other person to judge this. God is the judge and you can be sure He will get it right. There have been many people who have been harmed by ignorant Christians who are either upset by the things people are saying about the Lord and lash out to protect Him or they are just misinformed. I am sorry if this has caused you any concern. When I say "ignorant" Christians I do not mean that in an unkind way, I just mean it as uninformed. At one time in my life as a young Christian I thought I had commited the "unpardonable" sin and it caused me great concern but God has taught me and shown me the truth about this and I now know that I never did this. I would point out though that it is best if you refrain from disrespecting the things of God even if you don't believe. It brings no good and could have negative consequences in one way or another.

 

[Inan3]

I would dispute the historicity of Jesus. Outside of the bible, which can't be used for proof of an historical Jesus for obvious reasons, there are just 2-3 disputed pieces in Josephus. There is no scholarly concensus on those, but the big guns tend to see them as later inserts.

Big Guns are not always reliable. The tend to sometimes have their own agendas.

But even if we accept an historical Jesus it is a much greater leap to accept that he was god.

It's called a leap of faith Baggins but it's not as difficult to believe as you may think. It's really quite logical.

I won't get into it all but I will share a couple of scriptures.

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Word was made flesh, Jesus, but Jesus was just a man when He was on the earth. I know this will incite many of my brethren but it is truth. Jesus HAD to be a man to pay the price for sins. It would not have been legally satisfying if He was not. That's just the beginning of it.

I can't even post that many emoticons

That comes from being a supporter of CF

A trifle egotistical, but go for it, who's going to big you up if you won't do it yourself

All in jest. I liked the smiley but could never seem to find a place for it.

 

[FishFace]

Mat 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

So you don't have the evidence, even though we've told you that we're quite eager to listen to you. Thanks for calling us dogs and pigs, too, by the way.

 

[FishFace]

I have no argument against Zeus. Why is this important to you?

Because, as I think Split (or perhaps Poe) said, once you understand why you don't believe in Zeus, you will understand why we don't believe in your God.

 

[FishFace]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth. I don't think there is any proof of Zeus and the boys. I know you like his thunder but you gotta let him go Baggins./quote]

History can never prove anything, by the way, but there's not even much evidence for Jesus. The first signs of Jesus we have are from a guy who had a vision for goodness' sake. Vision - or hallucination? Hm.

There is certainly not enough evidence that Jesus did all those miracles - there's probably less evidence of Jesus' holiness than evidence of Zeus' power, since there are loads of stories about Zeus.

You've still not given us a good reason to not believe in Zeus other than lack of evidence. And there's very little evidence for the central tenets of Christianity - that Jesus actually rose from the dead.

 

[FishFace]

Lie and twist as they may the truth will come one day and every eye will see and those on the wrong side will know

Until then, though, why would we believe? This is about as useful as saying that you will know the truth of Zeus one day.

that they have rejected their only hope for eternal life in Christ Jesus.

Or in Zeus.

It's sad that people would see themselves as nothing more than apes with no purpose for the now

Not really. It's sad to see people who are so insecure in themselves that they have to invent differences between themselves and other elements of what they think are "God's great creation."
There's nothing wrong with being "just an ape."

but to disprove a God that loves them,

No-one has disproved God. It's up to you to provide evidence for him, if you think it would be good to believe in him.

and with no hope for the future. What a horrible existence and waste of life.

A waste of life? While you're busy anticipating the next life, we can make sure we live the only one we're getting properly.