Some Surprising Facts About Evolution

[FishFace]

Because they have no proof He doesn't and they are not really sure. And while, Zeus is agreed upon to be a myth, at least the Greeks had the sense to know there was more than just the physical realm around them. Although, they may not have had it exactly right they didn't deny the existence of a greater power than they. To deny God is a choice because it is within all men to know that there is a God. A person has to step over the evidence and choose to deny God bringing upon themselves a darkness they don't even know they are enveloped in.

So essentially, your argument against Zeus is that "everyone says it's a myth."

Great.

 

[Inan3]

"Oh no, a question I can't answer! I'll just blame it on Nathan and follow up with an unnecessary Bible verse!"

When presented with the chance to exchange falsehood for truth, any scientist will be frothing at the mouth. If you really know, then we want to, too!

Quite so. And if you really know, then it won't matter what I argue, will it?

Mat 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

 

[Inan3]

So essentially, your argument against Zeus is that "everyone says it's a myth."

Great.

I have no argument against Zeus. Why is this important to you?

 

[Inan3]

Rubbish. You've offered up absolutely no evidence for God except a few passages from a book which isn't taken seriously by the people you're trying to convince.

. . . And while, God is agreed upon to be a myth, at least the Christians had the sense to know there was more than just the physical realm around them. . .

Fixed.

I am not trying to convince. Remember, you are the ones that want me to tell you.

 

[MoonLancer]

To deny God is a choice because it is within all men to know that there is a God.

Wait, hold it right there. So it was within the power of native Americans before the English came to know god? People only know about god when Christians tell them. Its not in inherent. Its a cultural belief, its not a genetically inherent. Please show god is inherent in humans. Please show cases of people believing in god BEFORE they were exposed to the concept of god. If you cannot, retract your statement, or your bearing false witness.

A person has to step over the evidence and choose to deny God bringing upon themselves a darkness they don't even know they are enveloped in.

again, evidence. You cant just say their is evidence and provide none. you come to me with empty handed bearing false witness. why would you do such a thing?

 

[MoonLancer]

Mat 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

so now some parts of the bible is literal and others figurative? how can you possibly tell what parts are what?

If taking the bible laterally, You should not give what is holly to the DOGS. we are not dogs, nor pigs. how can a dog crush a pearl? for that matter, why should all dogs be persecuted? i thought they were mans best friend?

 

[Baggins]

I have no argument against Zeus. Why is this important to you?

Because we reject your god for the same reasons that you reject Zeus

 

[Inan3]

so now some parts of the bible is literal and others figurative? how can you possibly tell what parts are what?

If taking the bible laterally, You should not give what is holly to the DOGS. we are not dogs, nor pigs. how can a dog crush a pearl? for that matter, why should all dogs be persecuted? i thought they were mans best friend?

There have always been metaphors and parables in the bible. It's the truth that is to be found that is important.

 

[Inan3]

Because we reject your god for the same reasons that you reject Zeus

I don't get what the big deal about Zeus is. If you are saying you don't believe in God because you don't believe He is real why not just say that? If that is what you are saying then that's right I don't believe in Zeus because I don't believe he is real. I'm quite sure that even the Greeks no longer believe he is real (but maybe some do) and they say it was all just narratives about their gods. That is your choice if you don't want to believe in God. God has given you the free will to do that. Hope we're done with Zeus now.

 

[Gracchus]

Hope we're done with Zeus now.

So why don't you believe in Odin?

 

[Baggins]

I don't get what the big deal about Zeus is. If you are saying you don't believe in God because you don't believe He is real why not just say that? If that is what you are saying then that's right I don't believe in Zeus because I don't believe he is real. I'm quite sure that even the Greeks no longer believe he is real (but maybe some do) and they say it was all just narratives about their gods. That is your choice if you don't want to believe in God. God has given you the free will to do that. Hope we're done with Zeus now.

Doesn't need to be Zeus. We reject your god for the same reaons that you reject: Zeus, Odin, Herne, Ra, Mithras, Astarte, Isis etc etc etc.

You don't believe Zeus is real, and for the same reasons that we don't believe your god is real.

I hope that you can see that. You reject a whole heap of gods because you think that the evidence for them is lacking. We reject the Christian god for the same reason.

 

[Inan3]

Wait, hold it right there. So it was within the power of native Americans before the English came to know god? People only know about god when Christians tell them. Its not in inherent. Its a cultural belief, its not a genetically inherent. Please show god is inherent in humans. Please show cases of people believing in god BEFORE they were exposed to the concept of god. If you cannot, retract your statement, or your bearing false witness.


again, evidence. You cant just say their is evidence and provide none. you come to me with empty handed bearing false witness. why would you do such a thing?

Whoa whoa whoa calm down ML. Native Americans did believe in God before the English came. Did you ever hear of the Great Spirit? There are a lot of people all over the world in remote places that believe in God. I think what you mean is Jesus Christ.

One more small point I think you came to me, I didn't come to you, but it's okay we can still be friends, after you calm down abit

 

[Inan3]

Doesn't need to be Zeus. We reject your god for the same reaons that you reject: Zeus, Odin, Herne, Ra, Mithras, Astarte, Isis etc etc etc.

You don't believe Zeus is real, and for the same reasons that we don't believe your god is real.

I hope that you can see that. You reject a whole heap of gods because you think that the evidence for them is lacking. We reject the Christian god for the same reason.

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth. I don't think there is any proof of Zeus and the boys. I know you like his thunder but you gotta let him go Baggins.

I think I'm going to use this as my signature What do you think???

 

[DisgruntledPostalEmployee]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth.

There's plenty of proof that Haile Selassie walked on this Earth too, but that doesn't mean that he was Jah Rastafari.

 

[MoonLancer]

I don't get what the big deal about Zeus is. If you are saying you don't believe in God because you don't believe He is real why not just say that? If that is what you are saying then that's right I don't believe in Zeus because I don't believe he is real. I'm quite sure that even the Greeks no longer believe he is real (but maybe some do) and they say it was all just narratives about their gods. That is your choice if you don't want to believe in God. God has given you the free will to do that. Hope we're done with Zeus now.

wow i really thought you were coming around... then right at the end, you glazed over and completely missed the point.

Zeus has given you the free will to believe in your god. however, your still going to hades, while I'm going to the elysian fields because I believe in Zeus.

The point is, your belief in god is every bit as valid as peoples belief in Zeus. Your using the same value systems to determine truth. So why is Zeus wrong and your right? Please don't say Majority rules, because I'm pretty sure Christianity is NOT the majority, just a very loud minority.

good luck filling that bucket.

 

[Firikon21]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth. [/quote]

And there's proof that Jim Jones and David Koresh walked on the earth. Are you going to worship either of them? At any rate, prove that the Jesus depicted in the Bible exists. You know, the one that rose from the dead after three days and performed all these different miracles. The evidence of the historical record seems surprisingly absent in regards to that Jesus Christ.

 

[MoonLancer]

Whoa whoa whoa calm down ML. Native Americans did believe in God before the English came. Did you ever hear of the Great Spirit? There are a lot of people all over the world in remote places that believe in God. I think what you mean is Jesus Christ.

One more small point I think you came to me, I didn't come to you, but it's okay we can still be friends, after you calm down abit

Ever herd of brother wolf? They believed in many many gods, not just one.

and its Sprites, not sprit. so again, please show how belief in a god is inhalant and is non cultural

 

[MoonLancer]

I don't think there is any proof of Zeus and the boys. I know you like his thunder but you gotta let him go Baggins.

i guess all you heard was thunder, but never saw the lightning. You have to want to see the lightning before you can believe.

 

[The Bellman]

Whoa whoa whoa calm down ML. Native Americans did believe in God before the English came. Did you ever hear of the Great Spirit?

No, they believed in a god (or, for some tribes, multiple gods). It cannot be demonstrated that the god(s) in which they believed is God (ie., the Christian god). That's merely what you like to think.

There are a lot of people all over the world in remote places that believe in God.

Same again. They believe in a god; that doesn't mean they believe in God.

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth.

No, history doesn't prove that. 'History' doesn't prove anything. Evidence demonstrates things, and the evidence that Jesus actually walked the earth is far from conclusive. I consider it very likely taht he did walk the earth, but it's certainly not proven.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

History does prove that Jesus Christ walked on this earth.

Really? How does history PROVE that Jesus Christ was a real person? I happen to believe he was but the historical evidence is sadly lacking. AFAIK there is only the one reference in Josephus and that may be a fabrication by a monk who translated Josephus in about 300 AD IIRC. It is almost certain that the passage was "improved" by the translator.

F.B.