Some Surprising Facts About Evolution

[Inan3]

Cool. I don't know if I could be much happier: beautiful wife, great job, lovely family and friends etc. But I will give it a go and tell you if I get any happier.

Not sure I can be at piece with your imaginary construct though, unless it is Zeus: Zeus is awesome, he has thunderbolts.

What has all this got to do with '"truth" above all else' not having the first idea what palaeontology is though? It's not like I'm ungreatful that you want me to be even happier, just it seems like a bit of a non-sequiteur in the circumstances.

Imaginary, no, invisible to you, yes, on the other hand Zeus is imaginary. And I guess I'm not sure what "circumstances" you are talking about. Also, what "truth" above all else are you referring to? There is only one that I know of.

 

[Loudmouth]

Imaginary, no, invisible to you, yes, on the other hand Zeus is imaginary.

How do you determine which gods are real and which are imaginary?

 

[Baggins]

Imaginary, no, invisible to you, yes, on the other hand Zeus is imaginary. And I guess I'm not sure what "circumstances" you are talking about. Also, what "truth" above all else are you referring to? There is only one that I know of.

You think Zeus is imaginary and your god isn't.

When you understand why you think Zeus is imaginary, you will understand why I think your god is imaginary

Truth above all else is a rather mis-named poster on these sites.

 

[Inan3]

you will understand why I think your god is imaginary

No Baggins I will never understand why you think God is imaginary for I know Him to be so real.

 

[Nathan Poe]

No Baggins I will never understand why you think God is imaginary for I know Him to be so real.

You know? Wonderful! Then you can explain it to us.

 

[TheOutsider]

How do you determine which gods are real and which are imaginary?

I'm going to guess that the voices in his head tell him.

 

[Baggins]

No Baggins I will never understand why you think God is imaginary for I know Him to be so real.

Just as the followers of all gods think their god are soooo real.

Do you really not understand why you reject Zeus?

I reject your god for the same reasons

 

[Inan3]

You know? Wonderful! Then you can explain it to us.

I would love to explain it if I thought you really wanted to know but I know you don't. You just want something to argue about.

I will tell you about Thomas one of Jesus' disciples, though.

Jhn 20:24-31 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed. And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I would love to explain it if I thought you really wanted to know but I know you don't. You just want something to argue about.

Sounds like a cop out to me. You claim to have knowledge, while the rest of the world's theists rely on faith, and you won't share? How sad.

I will tell you about Thomas one of Jesus' disciples, though.

Jhn 20:24-31 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed. And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Nice story. Heard it before. So what?

 

[DisgruntledPostalEmployee]

I would love to explain it if I thought you really wanted to know but I know you don't. You just want something to argue about.

"Oh no, a question I can't answer! I'll just blame it on Nathan and follow up with an unnecessary Bible verse!"

 

[FishFace]

I would love to explain it if I thought you really wanted to know but I know you don't. You just want something to argue about.

When presented with the chance to exchange falsehood for truth, any scientist will be frothing at the mouth. If you really know, then we want to, too!

 

[Nathan Poe]

When presented with the chance to exchange falsehood for truth, any scientist will be frothing at the mouth. If you really know, then we want to, too!

Quite so. And if you really know, then it won't matter what I argue, will it?

 

[FoeHammer]

Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated.

And yours are just plain wrong.
I'll show you.

I am glad to see that Foehammer has finally admitted that his posts are nothing but "drive bys" devoid of any original thought.

I ''admitted'' to two drive by postings.

Sorry, but I did base my comment on All your posts.

Split Rock

Now, can you point me to where I have ''admitted'' that all my posts ''are nothing but "drive bys" devoid of any original thought''?

FoeHammer.

 

[Nathan Poe]

And yours are just plain wrong.
I'll show you.I ''admitted'' to two drive by postings.Now, can you point me to where I have ''admitted'' that all my posts ''are nothing but "drive bys" devoid of any original thought''?

FoeHammer.

You've admitted to some -- the others are self-evident.

Poe.

 

[Split Rock]

And yours are just plain wrong.
I'll show you.I ''admitted'' to two drive by postings.Now, can you point me to where I have ''admitted'' that all my posts ''are nothing but "drive bys" devoid of any original thought''?

FoeHammer.

My answer is:
(choose any one of the following)

A) The King James version of the Bible.
B) The Fall
C) The Curse
D) The Flood
E) God did it -- That settles it

 

[Split Rock]

And yours are just plain wrong.
I'll show you.I ''admitted'' to two drive by postings.Now, can you point me to where I have ''admitted'' that all my posts ''are nothing but "drive bys" devoid of any original thought''?

FoeHammer.

You've admitted to some -- the others are self-evident.

Poe.

Yes.

And utilizing Creationist Logic 101, if he admits to posting even one drive-by post, that means ALL of his posts are Drive-bys (e.g. If there was one transitional fossil that was a fraud, like Piltdown Man, then they are ALL frauds.)!

 

[FoeHammer]

My answer is:
(choose any one of the following)

A) The King James version of the Bible.
B) The Fall
C) The Curse
D) The Flood
E) God did it.

So you can't?

FoeHammer.

 

[Loudmouth]

No Baggins I will never understand why you think God is imaginary for I know Him to be so real.

Just like the followers of Zeus knew Him to be so real.

Are you using the Bible as an excuse to deny the existence of Zeus? Sounds kind of silly, doesn't it? So why would atheists/agnostics use science to deny something that doesn't exist?

 

[Inan3]

Just like the followers of Zeus knew Him to be so real.

Are you using the Bible as an excuse to deny the existence of Zeus? Sounds kind of silly, doesn't it? So why would atheists/agnostics use science to deny something that doesn't exist?

Because they have no proof He doesn't and they are not really sure. And while, Zeus is agreed upon to be a myth, at least the Greeks had the sense to know there was more than just the physical realm around them. Although, they may not have had it exactly right they didn't deny the existence of a greater power than they. To deny God is a choice because it is within all men to know that there is a God. A person has to step over the evidence and choose to deny God bringing upon themselves a darkness they don't even know they are enveloped in.

Rom 1:18-24 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Because they have no proof He doesn't and they are not really sure. And while, Zeus is agreed upon to be a myth, at least the Greeks had the sense to know there was more than just the physical realm around them. Although, they may not have had it exactly right they didn't deny the existence of a greater power than they. To deny God is a choice because it is within all men to know that there is a God. A person has to step over the evidence and choose to deny God bringing upon themselves a darkness they don't even know they are enveloped in.

Rubbish. You've offered up absolutely no evidence for God except a few passages from a book which isn't taken seriously by the people you're trying to convince.

. . . And while, God is agreed upon to be a myth, at least the Christians had the sense to know there was more than just the physical realm around them. . .

Fixed.