Nothing you have above fits.1. Gold, Babylonia -- 1 of 5 has fallen
2. Silver, Medo/Persian -- 2 of 5 has fallen
3. Bronze, Grecian -- 3 of 5 has fallen
4. Iron, Roman -- 4 of 5 has fallen
-- Clay, "divided"
-- 5. Lion/Eagle, U.K./U.S. -- 5 of 5 has fallen from preeminence
-- 6. Bear, Russia -- "one is" when it attacks Israel
-- 7. Leopard (actually a "Tiger"), China -- "is yet to come" when it spanks Russia
-- 8. "Dreadful", United Nations -- "was and is not", and has NO Geography, NO Populous, NO Army, etc.
9. Great Stone, Jesus' Millennial Kingdom
10. New Jerusalem, eternity in Heaven
But we can't apply was, is not, and yet is - to a kingdom. The same type language is used in speaking of Jesus in Revelation 1:4. The language applies to a person.
I need from you something in identifable terms.
The beast which you are saying is a kingdom is what in actual terms? China, Texas, Australia, ....?
Please give me something is outline form identifying the three arch villains of the end times you are claiming. Short and identifiable, like the examples in parenthesis.
1. ???? (leader of Russia?)
2. ???? (head of the International Monetary System)
3. ???? (the Pope)
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6. Germany – economic power
7. Japan – economic power
8. Brazil – regional representative for S. America
9. Nigeria – regional representative for Africa
10. India – regional representative for the Near East
You are mistaken: the "woman" in Rev. 12 is ISRAEL, from where Jesus, the SON, came. This first 5 verses are about how the Dragon tried to kill Jesus as a young child.Please check out the answers I give to your question in Course 12 of my book, you can read it for free in this link. I also explain the 10 horns which Daniel and John refer to. All the best! Alex
http://themessianicfeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/TMF_Course_12.pdf
As near as I can tell from your post, extracting bits and pieces,
I think that near the end of the week, as shown at the 6th vial, these ten major nations all send their military to join with the Beast in wiping Israel off the map. Does this "ten" really mean 10, or perhaps fullness? There were ten toes on the image.Nothing you have above fits.
The ten kings don't have a kingdom but for one hour.
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
The ten kings give their "kingdom" to the beast in Revelation 17:17.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled
Amazing: Agreement! The harlot is the city of Jerusalem. In God's plan the world was suppose to learn of the goodness and greatness of God from Jerusalem - but instead, the world is deceived by the Beast and False Prophet from Jerusalem.The harlot is not the beast, agreed.
Sorry but that version does not fit the scriptures at all. Mary did not flee into the wilderness for 3 1/2 years after Jesus was born. And Jesus did not live on earth during the seventh Beast word government but the sixth, Rome. In Revelation 12 all seven heads of this beast are crowned, showing that it occurs when the seventh and final world beast system is in place. Also the 10 horns show this, they did not live when Jesus lived, and they rule with the antichrist. See also Daniel 7:7, 8, 20, 24 for the ten horns (who are ten financial kings without a delineated kingdom, Rev 17:12). The antichrist comes up in the midst of them, and his look is more stout (Daniel 7:20).You are mistaken: the "woman" in Rev. 12 is ISRAEL, from where Jesus, the SON, came. This first 5 verses are about how the Dragon tried to kill Jesus as a young child.
Sorry but that version does not fit the scriptures at all. Mary did not flee into the wilderness for 3 1/2 years after Jesus was born. And Jesus did not live on earth during the seventh Beast word government but the sixth, Rome. In Revelation 12 all seven heads of this beast are crowned, showing that it occurs when the seventh and final world beast system is in place. Also the 10 horns show this, they did not live when Jesus lived, and they rule with the antichrist. See also Daniel 7:7, 8, 20, 24 for the ten horns (who are ten financial kings without a delineated kingdom, Rev 17:12). The antichrist comes up in the midst of them, and his look is more stout (Daniel 7:20).
See my answer to Alex.Hello Alex
Your above post is interesting, I disagree on Rev 12 being Future I believe rev 12 is the only Historical part of Revelation
[15] The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood.
This gives us a direct tie into Daniel 9: and the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD
[26] And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war; desolations are decreed.
Saying this Dragon is a Kingdom is not in line with the plain words of God.
[9] And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
The Dragon is Satan not a Kingdom. The Crowns and Heads Just show he is the true prince/king of all these world Governments. As Jesus said the prince of this World.
After trying to kill the messenger and destroying Jerusalem...................... but failing to stop the message he Then uses his Fourth Kingdom Rome to
[17] Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
He uses Rome to persecute Christianity. Which is a well documented fact.
What I do agree with .....to a degree......is that these ten Kings in RV17: which have not yet received Royal Power....are leaders you are saying monetary I assume you are drawing that conclusion from Rv 18 and the Traders........I have always seen them as elected officials who as such do not have the Power to Turn their respective Territories over to the Beast but as Kings Their power is absolute. That is why they are made Kings for the one Hour Ceremony to Give the Beast from the pit control of the Empire.
Hello Alex
Your above post is interesting, I disagree on Rev 12 being Future I believe rev 12 is the only Historical part of Revelation
It is not about Mary, it is about Israel from which Mary came. The "woman" is ISRAEL. It will be those in Judea that flee. Don't you remember Jesus saying that?
Always remember, chapter 12 is a MIDPOINT chapter, but verses 1-5 are written as a parenthesis about Jesus' birth. This chapter is God introducing John to the dragon - and in particular, what the dragon will be doing in the last half of the week. But God CHOSE to show John what the dragon did when He was a young child.
In Revelation 12, a midpoint chapter, if you insist that the 7th and final world beast is in place, I will not argue the point. But leave the first 5 verses out of it, for they are about Christ's birth.
What you missed: the first five verses are written as a parenthesis and have ZERO to do with events at the midpoint.
I think one has to be very careful when interpreting these prophetic events, and we know that the Messiah said not one scripture can be broken. Those who say that is Mary giving birth to Jesus in Rev 12 are breaking the scripture, because Mary did not flee to the wilderness for 3 ½ years, she went to Egypt for two, then back to Israel. So in my belief, that interpretation must be discarded.
Notice below that the fourth kingdom takes place just before the Ancient of Days takes control and the Millennial rule begins, which is out ahead of us:
I agree the fourth Kingdom is there at Jesus' return. However it is also there at the fall of Greece.
[44] And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed,
The term in those days implies that it is a different time then the Kingdom itself. However that is not enough to come to this conclusion on its own so the question is if this Kingdom of Iron is Not Rome where is Rome?
As near as I can tell from your post, extracting bits and pieces,
You believe...
- 6th king would be head of the UN or EU army.
- 7th king, would be the most anti-UN, pro-Illuminati global corp leader around, Prince William.
- 8th king, the beast, would be Prince William, the little horn
Your appear to have Prince William eventually killing the Pope for appointing the head of the UN or EU army.
Apparently, you have the ten kings as being the Illuminati global corp.
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Is there anything I got wrong regarding my understanding of your view?
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The ten kings don't have a kingdom but for one hour.
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
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