So is Barr the Attorney General or Trumps personal lawyer?

[whatbogsends]

That’s not correct. His summary was not misleading. He wasn’t asked if he knew of “Mueller’s concerns.”

And your likely retort, which you made in the other thread, isn’t compelling. “Crist: Reports have emerged recently, General, that members of the special counsel's team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24 letter, that it does not adequately or accurately portray the report's findings. Do you know what they are referencing with that?
Barr: No, I don't.”

That’s not the same as asking about Mueller’s thoughts.

Mueller's letter included the following:

"As we stated in our meeting of March 5 and reiterated to the Department early in the afternoon of March 24, the introductions and executive summaries of our two-volume report accurately summarize this Office's work and conclusions. The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office's work and conclusions. We communicated that concern to the Department on the morning of March 25. There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations."

Additionally, the letter requested additional information - specifically summaries that Mueller's team had put together - be released to the public.

How could you not know that they are referencing the letter that Barr said when they asked " members of the special counsel's team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24 letter".

Mueller is part of "Mueller's team", and his letter expressly articulated frustration with the limited information in Barr's March 24 letter. Moreover, Barr initially tries to claim "you asked about "members of the team", I spoke with Mueller", but later claims he believes "the letter was probably written by someone on Mueller's team". He can't have it both ways. He's absolutely lying, and you joining in his semantic games doesn't give his excuses for his lies any more credence.

Just because the question asked to Barr didn't use the exact same language as Mueller's letter doesn't exempt Barr from disclosing it. He didn't swear to "technically tell the truth in a manner to conduct a narrative", he swore to "tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".

 

[Allandavid]

Here is the problem.
You have Mueller's report that found nothing that matters.

Not true.

If it did, then Mueller would have charged Trump.

Not true. You haven’t read th report.

So, RIGHT THERE< as the AG is explaining......for this to continue, is just angry witches in a witch Hunt keeping the fake ball in play, for as long as possible.

Acting as a dutiful attorney for the president.......oh, wait...

So, because Mueller failed to find the corruption

Not true.

 

[whatbogsends]

Yeah, I had hopes your question was a sincere, legit question...until I read your use of the word “dictatorial.”

Read Barr’s quote in your opening post more carefully. He’s making a very specific, and narrow point, that has absolutely nothing to do with alleging or defending a dictatorial presidency.

Except that the investigation wasn't a narrow investigation into the President. It was a broad investigation regarding Russian interference and any potential domestic collaborators. Trump couldn't "terminate that proceeding and it would not be corrupt intent because he was being falsely accused", as the "proceeding" wasn't just an investigation into Trump. Barr is parroting Trump's false "witch hunt" narrative, not making a valid legal point.

 

[Allandavid]

Are you hinging your analysis on the word "intent"? Because I disagree with that analysis too. Unilaterally ending an investigation that you are the subject of, even if you have been falsely accused, is corrupt and of corrupt intent. The claim that Trump is being falsely accused comes from Trump himself. How do we verify that claim? By completing the investigation. If the President can simply say "I'm being falsely accused!" and terminate an investigation into himself unilaterally, that is a defining characteristic of tyranny.


Is Mueller himself not a member of his own team?

And Barr’s lie is further evident when he stated that he felt the “snitty” letter was written by one of Mueller’s staff.

 

[USincognito]

And you mentioned "parrots", well, what i often hear is a person who sounds just like i'm watching CNN, and so, ...that would reflect your definition of "parrot"... wouldn't it?

And yet...

... disgruntled people who use to work for Trump, or people who can't stand that He is President.... all being given a chance to rant their hatred for him, 24/7.

And this feeds the angry mod of Trump haters, every day and night and keeps them all in lock step.

Its angry Socialists, who own CNN and MSNBC, and many of the same in our Congress and Senate, grasping at "Mueller's Straws", as their way to VENT their frustration that they lost the Election... But mostly, = its all a FRONT and a GUISE the socialists misuse and manipulate to continually try to create an environment of polarization and chaos within the USA, as this is what a Socialist or Communist wants.

i have snipped most of the rambling screeds that were these posts and am highlighting what are little more than are parroted talking points from talk radio and the Fox News evening shows rendering each of these comments the height of irony.

 

[Sparagmos]

CNN states, (spins) that the report provided clear evidence......of what?.......nothing.
They just imply there is a smoking gun, but they have no gun, and only keep blowing smoke.
The report states that there is no clear evidence, that would be considered substantial.
If there was, substantial evidence, The Dems would have started to impeach the very next day.
So, this is a facade. Its an opera. Its a Democrat political opportunist's joyride.
Its angry Socialists, who own CNN and MSNBC, and many of the same in our Congress and Senate, grasping at "Mueller's Straws", as their way to VENT their frustration that they lost the Election... But mostly, = its all a FRONT and a GUISE the socialists misuse and manipulate to continually try to create an environment of polarization and chaos within the USA, as this is what a Socialist or Communist wants.
"uprising".. by design.
"social unrest", by design.
This is so obvious., and its nothing new.

You think Time Warner and Comcast, two of the largest business conglomerates in the world, are Socialists, who believe workers should own the means of production? So why haven’t they turned their companies over to the workers?

 

[SarahsKnight]

The President is the Leader and everyone the Leader appoints to a position works for the Leader. Also, it is impossible for a Republican President who was elected by the people to commit any crimes, by the very nature of being a chosen Republican President, everything is legal. God bless our Greatest Elected Leader Ever!

That is why Trump only hires the BEST! Above AND Beyond!

The “Buzz Lightyear” of Attorney General’s

Boy you've really been on a roll lately, Aryeh.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And Barr’s lie is further evident when he stated that he felt the “snitty” letter was written by one of Mueller’s staff.

But is a staff really a team? They are totally different words!

 

[Zanting]

William Barr: is his defence of Trump paving the road to tyranny?
“The president does not have to sit there constitutionally and allow it to run its course,” Barr told senators. “The president could terminate that proceeding and it would not be corrupt intent because he was being falsely accused.

Seriously?!!

Seriously...William Barr followed the letter of the law...exactly what the USA AG is supposed to do no matter who the POTUS is.

Most Americans are grateful and thankful for his service and view the behavior of the judiciary committee as disgraceful and putting Trump derangement syndrome on full display.

 

[Allandavid]

Seriously...William Barr followed the letter of the law...exactly what the USA AG is supposed to do no matter who the POTUS is.

Most Americans are grateful and thankful for his service and view the behavior of the judiciary committee as disgraceful and putting Trump derangement syndrome on full display.

You’ll have no trouble producing numbers to support your claims about Barr’s approval...?

 

[Zanting]

You’ll have no trouble producing numbers to support your claims about Barr’s approval...?

Numbers don't mean anything, facts and truth do...and actions speak louder than words...especially with all the noise the democrats make. Noise, noise, noise...no action...just speculation, disinformation, false accusations, treasonous behavior etc...angry, angry, angry that the Mueller report didn't support their narrative...it sucks when you're caught in a lie.

More facts are yet to be revealed such as this...

Opinion | The Truth About ‘Spying’ on the Trump Campaign

 

[Speedwell]

Numbers don't mean anything, facts and truth do...and actions speak louder than words...especially with all the noise the democrats make. Noise, noise, noise...no action...just speculation, disinformation, false accusations, treasonous behavior etc...angry, angry, angry that the Mueller report didn't support their narrative...it sucks when you're caught in a lie.

More facts are yet to be revealed such as this...

Opinion | The Truth About ‘Spying’ on the Trump Campaign

You can spin it until you get dizzy, but you will not be able to spin away the most important finding of the Mueller investigation by pretending it was nothing but a "witch hunt" to "get Trump.":

“The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

 

[Zanting]

You can spin it until you get dizzy, but you will not be able to spin away the most important finding of the Mueller investigation by pretending it was nothing but a "witch hunt" to "get Trump.":

“The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

And in a "sweeping and systematic fashion"...had nothing to do with the POTUS, or the Trump campaign. Russians have been interfering in US elections for years, and for certain it needs to be dealt with. This is one of the most obvious conclusions/outcomes from the Mueller investigation.

Furthermore, any government/ruler of any country can interfere in an election if they desire a certain outcome. This is old news...and has nothing to do with the POTUS.

However, collusion with the Russians does evidently appear to have occurred and is being investigated. Further conclusions from additional ongoing investigations will reveal much more over the next weeks and months leading up to the 2020 election.

And...I continue to pray for justice to bring unity in a country so divided, because of the destructive and deceptive narratives injected by the socialist democrats, and the media sources perpetuating them.

 

[DaisyDay]

The reason i asked you if you work for CNN, is because your question is the same one they are asking.

It's a good question.

Its interesting that news outlets like CNN, have become the home to disgruntled people who use to work for Trump, or people who can't stand that He is President.... all being given a chance to rant their hatred for him, 24/7.

Which disgruntled people who used to work for Trump now work for CNN - name names. In any case, that doesn't compare to the current White House situation where the WH hires Fox & Breitbart personnel and vice versa.

That's not really "news", but it is exactly CNN or MSNBC.
I find it annoying, so, don't watch those stations.
And you mentioned "parrots", well, what i often hear is a person who sounds just like i'm watching CNN, and so, ...that would reflect your definition of "parrot"... wouldn't it?

If you don't watch those stations, how would you know so well what they sound like?

And what you just described, Aryeh Jay, is a sort of innuendo that i hear all the time on CNN. and MSNBC..
Continual Innuendo spoken as Truth, and discussed all day, every day, by talking heads as if its true, with nothing ever proven......Just endless slander, being preached, 24/7.

Huh. How can you hear something all the time from a channel you never watch? Your posts have some contradictions.

 

[DaisyDay]

That’s not correct. His summary was not misleading. He wasn’t asked if he knew of “Mueller’s concerns.”
And your likely retort, which you made in the other thread, isn’t compelling. “Crist: Reports have emerged recently, General, that members of the special counsel's team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24 letter, that it does not adequately or accurately portray the report's findings. Do you know what they are referencing with that?
Barr: No, I don't.”

That’s not the same as asking about Mueller’s thoughts.

Oh, come on.

But this is why Barr is refusing to be questioned by practicing lawyers in the House.

 

[Speedwell]

And in a "sweeping and systematic fashion"...had nothing to do with the POTUS, or the Trump campaign. Russians have been interfering in US elections for years, and for certain it needs to be dealt with. This is one of the most obvious conclusions/outcomes from the Mueller investigation.

Which the President is still denying and which the administration has done nothing to prevent--Trump won't even talk to Putin about it.

 

[Zanting]

Which the President is still denying and which the administration has done nothing to prevent--Trump won't even talk to Putin about it.

He's denied none of this and has supported getting to the bottom of this entire hoax...which most definitely will involve prevention of Russian interference in future...and which may indeed involve talks with Putin in future once the rest of the investigations related to the Mueller report conclude.

Perhaps you misunderstood...the only thing Trump has denied all along is that he had nothing to do with Russian interference, nor did he collude with Putin, or any other Russian, nor did he obstruct the investigation...nor did anyone in his campaign...and which initially Mueller, then Rosenstein and the AG William Barr all determined in their conclusion of the Mueller report.

 

[Speedwell]

He's denied none of this and has supported getting to the bottom of this entire hoax...which most definitely will involve prevention of Russian interference in future...and which may indeed involve talks with Putin in future once the rest of the investigations related to the Mueller report conclude.

Perhaps you misunderstood...the only thing Trump has denied all along is that he had nothing to do with Russian interference, nor did he collude with Putin, or any other Russian, nor did he obstruct the investigation...nor did anyone in his campaign...and which initially Mueller, then Rosenstein and the AG William Barr all determined in their conclusion of the Mueller report.

I misunderstood nothing. I saw him stand next to Putin in Helsinki and unequivocally deny that Russia interfered. He has never retracted that statement.

 

[Allandavid]

Numbers don't mean anything, facts and truth do...and actions speak louder than words...especially with all the noise the democrats make. Noise, noise, noise...no action...just speculation, disinformation, false accusations, treasonous behavior etc...angry, angry, angry that the Mueller report didn't support their narrative...it sucks when you're caught in a lie.

More facts are yet to be revealed such as this...

Opinion | The Truth About ‘Spying’ on the Trump Campaign

So that would be a ‘no’ then...nothing to back up your claim...

 

[Zanting]

So that would be a ‘no’ then...nothing to back up your claim...

Perspective is everything...and I'm of an opposing perspective to yours for example ... my perspective is this...Polls have no statistical validity...they fluctuate based on the population polled and/or who participates in said polls. In other words...they can easily be manipulated or can be very misleading and have no real tangible value, meaning, or ability to represent facts.