It has been pointed out that the Sabbath was a routine for Jesus and all disciples---no need to shout out an already established fact. What would have to be shouted out would have been any change to that. As the change on circumcision brought about an upheaval, a change on the Sabbath would have brought about a great upheaval.
An established fact among whom specifically? The Jews! Jesus and his twelve disciples were Jews. Paul was a Pharisee...also a Jew. The Sabbath was established as a tradition ONLY for Jews! The argument among Jewish Christian leadership wasn't *just* about circumcision...it was about whether newly converted Gentiles needed to become Jews and observe all the Jewish practices and customs in order to be Christians, and the answer to that turned out to be a huge NO.
The only things Gentiles were asked to do, and not because God commanded it, but only to preserve unity in the church between Jews and Gentiles, were to abstain from sexual immorality, and to abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled.
That's it. Nothing else was required of Gentiles. No circumcision, no special diet laws, no Jewish feast days, and no sabbath.
No--not redefining worship---this is what God said the Sabbath is about:
in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Isa_58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
We aren't talking about the sabbath, but about worshiping God and the first day of the week is the day most Christians decided to worship, not because of any obligation whatsoever to observe a sabbath, but to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
It is not about the sabbath.
It is not about the sabbath.
It is not about the sabbath.
It was never about the sabbath.
Most Christians do not observe a sabbath because we are not required to observe a ritual sabbath day under the new covenant, and if we are non-Jewish Christians, we were *never* required to observe a ritual sabbath day every week.
Sunday worship is about the resurrection.
Sunday worship is about the resurrection.
Sunday worship is about the resurrection.
As I said before---Cain felt he could worship God as he chose to do so, instead of how God said.
Although SDA has decided on their own interpretation for why God rejected Cain's sacrifice, we don't really know the reason. It's guesswork because we don't have enough information available to know God's motives and so all we know is that he rejected it.
No there is no verse that states to Adam and Eve to keep the Sabbath.
Thank you, finally someone admits there is no verse commanding Adam and Eve to keep the sabbath. (Now if only certain other people would admit there is no verse in the NT commanding Gentiles to keep a sabbath.)
Now--where is the verse that states--you will keep the 1st day of the week as a Sabbath in honor of my resurrection?
Nowhere, because that's not what Christians are doing. 1st day of the week has nothing whatsoever to do with sabbath. It's about celebrating the day of the Lord's resurrection, commonly called the Lord's Day, because that was the day of his resurrection.
Where is any verse that states anything about having changed anything about the sabbath?
Nowhere, because nobody changed the sabbath. The sabbath is the sabbath, and worshiping God on the first day of the week in celebration of Jesus' resurrection are two different things.
Yes, without the resurrection we would have nothing. But then, honoring your father and not taking the Lords name in vain wouldn't be important any more than keeping the sabbath would be. Neither would any of the 10.
Exactly, because without the Jesus' resurrection, all of those things would be nothing, filthy rags so to speak. Without Jesus, there is no one to proclaim us "not guilty". We could honor our mother and father all day long for 365 days a year and still be condemned because there was no resurrection and no future hope of one.
No one questions any of the other commandments--No one says that you don't have to not murder, or covet. No one says we can take the Lords' name if vain now, no one says that any of the others don't matter any more.
Because the ritual weekly sabbath observation is a ceremonial law given to the Israelites at Sinai as a visible sign to mark the covenant God made with them, to set them apart from the other nations who were not under that covenant.
Even atheists know murder and coveting to be wrong because it's morally universal. While they do not acknowledge it comes from God, they instinctively know it to be true because the truth of it is absolute. People don't instinctively observe a seventh day sabbath because it doesn't have anything to do with morality. That wasn't its purpose in the covenant.
It is just strange that everyone goes through so much trouble trying to say the 4th is the only one that doesn't matter anymore. So because the law is written in the heart now, that means it's no big deal if you steal? The Holy Spirit leads you to keep all the other commandments---just not the 4th.
The Holy Spirit doesn't lead you to keep the other commandments because they are part of the ten commandments. The Holy Spirit leads you to do things like no murder or steal because murder and stealing aren't part of God's inherent nature. God *cannot* murder or steal, so God isn't capable of leading people into doing those things. The ritual sabbath observance was *created* by God for a particular purpose.
Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Circumcision was never a part of the 10---it was strictly from the law of Moses--kept outside the Ark. None of those are now to be kept. The 10 were in the Ark. The Ark was made after the one in heaven.
Like the ritual weekly sabbath is a sign of the covenant God made with the Israelites at Sinai, circumcision was a sign of the covenant God made directly with Abraham. A different covenant, but still ongoing at the time of the Sinai covenant.
Genesis 17:3-11
3 Then Abram fell on his face; and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You shall be the ancestor of a multitude of nations. 5 No longer shall your name be Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you the ancestor of a multitude of nations. 6 I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant between me and you, and your offspring after you throughout their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. 8 And I will give to you, and to your offspring after you, the land where you are now an alien, all the land of Canaan, for a perpetual holding; and I will be their God.” 9 God said to Abraham, “As for you, you shall keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you throughout their generations. 10 This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your offspring after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.
Rev_11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
His testament is what He wrote with His own hand on tables of stone--- there in the heavenly Ark as well.
Exo_25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
So who is still under the law that the heavenly ark represents?
Unbelievers.
Believers are not subject to written requirements that were taken away with Christ.
Moses commanded the Israelites to place the book of the law beside the Ark.
Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
Deu 31:25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
Deu_31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
It was the law of Moses --kept outside the Ark--that is where circumcision was---not inside the Ark.
Circumcision is a sign of a different covenant.
What was the ark called? The ark of the *covenant*. Which covenant? The covenant God made specifically with the Israelites at Sinai.
The disciples kept sabbath after the resurrection.
Many Jewish disciples kept sabbath along with all the other Jewish customs and traditions after the resurrection, but Gentile disciples did not. They were never under obligation to any of them.
Act 16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.
Act_13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act_13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
Act_13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act_13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act_15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Act_16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
Act_17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Act_18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
These were not Gentile *Christians*. He preached in the synagogues to witness to and convert Jews (and Gentile converts to Judaism) to Christianity. (And Gentile pagans would show up too, similar to how crowds would follow Jesus around when they heard he was in town.)
Gentile *Christians* met in each others homes for worship, not in Jewish synagogues.