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BobRyan said:
I repeat - I accept people as Christians who pray to the dead and bow down before images promising to serve those that are represented by those images
Karola said:
And I repeat, I accept as Christians people who only know what law they believe God wants them to follow by reading law written in ink
Sola scriptura
"They studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the apostle Paul -- WERE SO" Acts 17:11
Protestants call it "sola scriptura"
Yeah.
One thing my bro Paul was good at was causing friction between the various Jewish sects..........

Acts 17:

13 But when the Jews from Thessalonica learned that the word of God also was proclaimed by Paul in Berea, they came there also, stirring up and agitating the crowds.

The Sadducees [and Chief Priests] were probably a worst enemy of Christ and Paul than the Pharisees.
They were of the Priestly sect and unlike the Pharisees, did not believe in a resurrection.

Why did Sadducees not believe in Resurrection? Acts 23:8

Matthew 3:7
Seeing yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon his baptism he said to them "produce of vipers! who suggested to ye to be fleeing from the being about wrath?

Acts 5:17
Rising yet the Chief-Priest and all those together to-him--the being a sect of the Sadducees they are filled of-jealousy/boiling

Acts 23:
6 And Paul yet knowing that the one part is of Sadducees, the yet different of Pharisees, he cried out in the sunhedrin, "Men! brethren! I a Pharisee, am son of Pharisees; about the hope and resurrection of dead of the dead I am being judged!"
7 And when he had said this, a dissension arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees; and the assembly was divided.
8 For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection -- and no angel or spirit; but the Pharisees confess both.
9 Then there arose a loud outcry.
And the scribes of the Pharisees' party arose and protested, saying, "We find no evil in this man; but if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him, let us not fight against God."

John 5:39
"Ye are searching the Writings that ye are seeming in them life age-during to be having, and those are the ones-testifying about Me".

2 Peter 3:16
As also/and in all his letters, speaking in them about these-things;
in which are difficult to understand any which the un-learned and un-steadfast are wresting/twisting as also the rest of Writings,
toward the own of them destruction/apwleian <684>.
[# 684 used reve 17:8, 11]
 
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BobRyan said:
I repeat - I accept people as Christians who pray to the dead and bow down before images promising to serve those that are represented by those images

And I repeat, I accept as Christians people who only know what law they believe God wants them to follow by reading law written in ink

Sola scriptura

"They studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the apostle Paul -- WERE SO" Acts 17:11

Protestants call it "sola scriptura"

Yeah.
One thing my bro Paul was good at was causing friction between the various Jewish sects..........

Acts 17:

13 But when the Jews from Thessalonica learned that the word of God also was proclaimed by Paul in Berea, they came there also, stirring up and agitating the crowds.

In Acts 17 Paul is leaving the trouble-making Jews and going to Berea -- then as the text you quote points out - the Jews "discover where Paul went" and then they go to Berea to make trouble for him.

Is that Paul causing friction in Berea - or is that Jews that oppose Paul going to Berea to cause trouble?

How readest thou?
 
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An established fact among whom specifically? The Jews! Jesus and his twelve disciples were Jews. Paul was a Pharisee...also a Jew. The Sabbath was established as a tradition ONLY for Jews!

Until you read the actual Bible.

Jesus said
"the Sabbath was made for MANKIND" Mark 2:27
"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
Isaiah 56:6-8 GENTILEs specifically singled out for Sabbath keeping and blessing
Hebrews 4 "There REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God"

Sabbath is a memorial of God's creative act in creating "mankind"? or "just Jews"?

Jer 31:31-33 New Covenant - just for Israel?
Ex 20:1-2 - Ten Commandments - just for Israel?
"do not take God's name in vain" -- just for Israel?
 
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Yeah.
One thing my bro Paul was good at was causing friction between the various Jewish sects..........

Acts 17:

13 But when the Jews from Thessalonica learned that the word of God also was proclaimed by Paul in Berea, they came there also, stirring up and agitating the crowds.

The Sadducees [and Chief Priests] were probably a worst enemy of Christ and Paul than the Pharisees.
They were of the Priestly sect and unlike the Pharisees, did not believe in a resurrection.

Why did Sadducees not believe in Resurrection? Acts 23:8

Matthew 3:7
Seeing yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon his baptism he said to them "produce of vipers! who suggested to ye to be fleeing from the being about wrath?

Acts 5:17
Rising yet the Chief-Priest and all those together to-him--the being a sect of the Sadducees they are filled of-jealousy/boiling

Acts 23:
6 And Paul yet knowing that the one part is of Sadducees, the yet different of Pharisees, he cried out in the sunhedrin, "Men! brethren! I a Pharisee, am son of Pharisees; about the hope and resurrection of dead of the dead I am being judged!"
7 And when he had said this, a dissension arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees; and the assembly was divided.
8 For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection -- and no angel or spirit; but the Pharisees confess both.
9 Then there arose a loud outcry.
And the scribes of the Pharisees' party arose and protested, saying, "We find no evil in this man; but if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him, let us not fight against God."

John 5:39
"Ye are searching the Writings that ye are seeming in them life age-during to be having, and those are the ones-testifying about Me".

2 Peter 3:16
As also/and in all his letters, speaking in them about these-things;
in which are difficult to understand any which the un-learned and un-steadfast are wresting/twisting as also the rest of Writings,
toward the own of them destruction/apwleian <684>.
[# 684 used reve 17:8, 11]
BobRyan said:
In Acts 17 Paul is leaving the trouble-making Jews and going to Berea -- then as the text you quote points out - the Jews "discover where Paul went" and then they go to Berea to make trouble for him.

Is that Paul causing friction in Berea - or is that Jews that oppose Paul going to Berea to cause trouble?

How readest thou?
Like a pack of wild dogs and wolves stalking a flock of sheep.....

Psalms 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion, hands of me and feet of me.

Matthew 23:4
"For They are binding burdens, weighty/barea <926> and ill-bearing.
And they are on-placing upon the shoulders of the men, to the yet finger of them, not are willing to move them".

Acts 20:29
28 Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has set you overseers, to shepherd the church of God,c which He purchased with the own blood
29 "For I have-perceived this. That shall be entering after the departure of Me, wolves, weighty/bareiV <926>, into ye, no sparing of-the shepherded/flock/poimniou <4168>" ;

Phillipians 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision!
[Psalms 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]
 
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Until you read the actual Bible.

Jesus said
"the Sabbath was made for MANKIND" Mark 2:27
"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
Isaiah 56:6-8 GENTILEs specifically singled out for Sabbath keeping and blessing
Hebrews 4 "There REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God"

Sabbath is a memorial of God's creative act in creating "mankind"? or "just Jews"?

Jer 31:31-33 New Covenant - just for Israel?
Ex 20:1-2 - Ten Commandments - just for Israel?
"do not take God's name in vain" -- just for Israel?

And you know what that sabbath rest is, and what all of Jewish scripture with all those weekly ritual sabbath observances were pointing to all along?

Jesus the Christ.

Jesus himself is our sabbath rest.

The rituals observances were just shadows of the real thing, Jesus Christ.

The ritual sabbath observance of the specific covenant between God and the Israelites at Sinai isn't the subject of the actual bible. God is.
 
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And I repeat, your belief that you may or may not be conscious of sin through the law is not biblical.
You can testify to reading what is written in ink and then, and only then deciding you want to follow a specific Saturday sabbath. No seventh day Adventist, instinctively knew from within, without reading firstly what is written in ink, they should observe a Saturday sabbath. Therefore, that proves, that particular law as written is not written in the mind and placed in the heart of believers by the Spirit of the living God, if it were, you would not have had to come to the conclusion you did by reading what is written in ink, that is not where the law is for the believer under the new covenant according to the bible!!
Therefore, as the Spirit of the living God did not write that law in yours or anyone elses mind or heart it becomes a ''disputable matter'' You are entitled to take whichever view you choose. Paul wrote of such:

Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarrelling over disputable matters Rom14:1

Two are mentioned in the chapter:
One person considers one day more sacred/holy than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. verse 5

I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean verse 14

Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. verse20


Isn't that interesting---that anyone who is led by the spirit has refused to acknowledge how they even know there is spirit. How did a single one of you find out there is a holy spirit?

Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
 
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<BK>And you know what that sabbath rest is, and what all of Jewish scripture with all those weekly ritual sabbath observances were pointing to all along?
Jesus the Christ.
Jesus himself is our sabbath rest.
The rituals observances were just shadows of the real thing, Jesus Christ.
The ritual sabbath observance of the specific covenant between God and the Israelites at Sinai isn't the subject of the actual bible. God is.<end>
And all the people shall say amen.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

 
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Nowhere, because that's not what Christians are doing. 1st day of the week has nothing whatsoever to do with sabbath. It's about celebrating the day of the Lord's resurrection, commonly called the Lord's Day, because that was the day of his resurrection.

And it therefore is not a day that God has declared Holy, set aside, or sanctified by Him. It is a day set aside by man. The Sabbath is all about God, worshipping God the Father, which is what Jesus pointed to during His ministry--God, the Father. And interesting to point out---the Creator--the one who set up the Sabbath at Creation--was Jesus Himself. Jesus already set up a day to celebrate Him, and His Father,
And it was called the Lords day because He set it up and declared it Holy. And has declared no other day holy.
 
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An established fact among whom specifically? The Jews! Jesus and his twelve disciples were Jews. Paul was a Pharisee...also a Jew. The Sabbath was established as a tradition ONLY for Jews! The argument among Jewish Christian leadership wasn't *just* about circumcision...it was about whether newly converted Gentiles needed to become Jews and observe all the Jewish practices and customs in order to be Christians, and the answer to that turned out to be a huge NO.

The only things Gentiles were asked to do, and not because God commanded it, but only to preserve unity in the church between Jews and Gentiles, were to abstain from sexual immorality, and to abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled.

That's it. Nothing else was required of Gentiles. No circumcision, no special diet laws, no Jewish feast days, and no sabbath.



We aren't talking about the sabbath, but about worshiping God and the first day of the week is the day most Christians decided to worship, not because of any obligation whatsoever to observe a sabbath, but to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

It is not about the sabbath.
It is not about the sabbath.
It is not about the sabbath.

It was never about the sabbath.

Most Christians do not observe a sabbath because we are not required to observe a ritual sabbath day under the new covenant, and if we are non-Jewish Christians, we were *never* required to observe a ritual sabbath day every week.

Sunday worship is about the resurrection.
Sunday worship is about the resurrection.
Sunday worship is about the resurrection.



Although SDA has decided on their own interpretation for why God rejected Cain's sacrifice, we don't really know the reason. It's guesswork because we don't have enough information available to know God's motives and so all we know is that he rejected it.



Thank you, finally someone admits there is no verse commanding Adam and Eve to keep the sabbath. (Now if only certain other people would admit there is no verse in the NT commanding Gentiles to keep a sabbath.)



Nowhere, because that's not what Christians are doing. 1st day of the week has nothing whatsoever to do with sabbath. It's about celebrating the day of the Lord's resurrection, commonly called the Lord's Day, because that was the day of his resurrection.



Nowhere, because nobody changed the sabbath. The sabbath is the sabbath, and worshiping God on the first day of the week in celebration of Jesus' resurrection are two different things.



Exactly, because without the Jesus' resurrection, all of those things would be nothing, filthy rags so to speak. Without Jesus, there is no one to proclaim us "not guilty". We could honor our mother and father all day long for 365 days a year and still be condemned because there was no resurrection and no future hope of one.



Because the ritual weekly sabbath observation is a ceremonial law given to the Israelites at Sinai as a visible sign to mark the covenant God made with them, to set them apart from the other nations who were not under that covenant.

Even atheists know murder and coveting to be wrong because it's morally universal. While they do not acknowledge it comes from God, they instinctively know it to be true because the truth of it is absolute. People don't instinctively observe a seventh day sabbath because it doesn't have anything to do with morality. That wasn't its purpose in the covenant.



The Holy Spirit doesn't lead you to keep the other commandments because they are part of the ten commandments. The Holy Spirit leads you to do things like no murder or steal because murder and stealing aren't part of God's inherent nature. God *cannot* murder or steal, so God isn't capable of leading people into doing those things. The ritual sabbath observance was *created* by God for a particular purpose.



Like the ritual weekly sabbath is a sign of the covenant God made with the Israelites at Sinai, circumcision was a sign of the covenant God made directly with Abraham. A different covenant, but still ongoing at the time of the Sinai covenant.

Genesis 17:3-11
3 Then Abram fell on his face; and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You shall be the ancestor of a multitude of nations. 5 No longer shall your name be Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you the ancestor of a multitude of nations. 6 I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant between me and you, and your offspring after you throughout their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. 8 And I will give to you, and to your offspring after you, the land where you are now an alien, all the land of Canaan, for a perpetual holding; and I will be their God.” 9 God said to Abraham, “As for you, you shall keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you throughout their generations. 10 This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your offspring after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.​



So who is still under the law that the heavenly ark represents?

Unbelievers.

Believers are not subject to written requirements that were taken away with Christ.



Circumcision is a sign of a different covenant.

What was the ark called? The ark of the *covenant*. Which covenant? The covenant God made specifically with the Israelites at Sinai.



Many Jewish disciples kept sabbath along with all the other Jewish customs and traditions after the resurrection, but Gentile disciples did not. They were never under obligation to any of them.



These were not Gentile *Christians*. He preached in the synagogues to witness to and convert Jews (and Gentile converts to Judaism) to Christianity. (And Gentile pagans would show up too, similar to how crowds would follow Jesus around when they heard he was in town.)

Gentile *Christians* met in each others homes for worship, not in Jewish synagogues.
A very well written post, bekilyen.

We celebrate the risen Christ on the first day!
 
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Sola scriptura

"They studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the apostle Paul -- WERE SO" Acts 17:11

Protestants call it "sola scriptura"
Acts 17:11 refers to the Gospel message Paul was speaking to them about, yes, not studying the scriptures to find out which law was written in the mind and placed on the heart. That is not a law written in ink anymore, for those who have the fulness of the covenant anyway
 
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What you call sola scripture is reciting the
letter of much scripture and only having a shallow understanding concerning it. Which is why, when I tell you no law of righteousness exists, you immediately think I am inferring a licence to sin.
If you believed in sola scripture you would know it is not a law written in ink for the believer, but you do not
 
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Isn't that interesting---that anyone who is led by the spirit has refused to acknowledge how they even know there is spirit. How did a single one of you find out there is a holy spirit?

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I will have to ignore your silly posts. I am speaking of the law written in the heart, not with ink. Already stated I avidly read the bible and we learn greatly from it.
Bye
 
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Like a pack of wild dogs and wolves stalking a flock of sheep.....

Psalms 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion, hands of me and feet of me.

Matthew 23:4
"For They are binding burdens, weighty/barea <926> and ill-bearing.
And they are on-placing upon the shoulders of the men, to the yet finger of them, not are willing to move them".

Acts 20:29
28 Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has set you overseers, to shepherd the church of God,c which He purchased with the own blood
29 "For I have-perceived this. That shall be entering after the departure of Me, wolves, weighty/bareiV <926>, into ye, no sparing of-the shepherded/flock/poimniou <4168>" ;

Phillipians 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision!
[Psalms 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]

LOL! what an accurate description if what happens on here! Interesting to note that it is not us that are saying that those who do not believe as we do are devoid of the Holy Spirit! I've not seen any SDA judge anyone for something that only God can declare. But I guess that is what happens when you are not led by the Holy Spirit--you don't judge others, but if you are led by the Spirit you do?
 
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Act 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Act 17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
Act 17:13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.
 
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Like a pack of wild dogs and wolves stalking a flock of sheep.....

Psalms 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion, hands of me and feet of me.

Matthew 23:4
"For They are binding burdens, weighty/barea <926> and ill-bearing.
And they are on-placing upon the shoulders of the men, to the yet finger of them, not are willing to move them".

Acts 20:29
28 Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has set you overseers, to shepherd the church of God,c which He purchased with the own blood
29 "For I have-perceived this. That shall be entering after the departure of Me, wolves, weighty/bareiV <926>, into ye, no sparing of-the shepherded/flock/poimniou <4168>" ;

Phillipians 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision!
[Psalms 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]
Good and relevant scriptures quoted. If people had great understanding and conviction as to what the letter demands, their whole focus wouldn't be on keep quoting the letter of written code and insisting you follow it all fully, in reality to show you are a Christian. They lay burdens on others they do not even try and follow. They should be boasting about the love, mercy and compassion of God to them, for loving them despite their imperfections, of which they, like everyone else has many.
That is not a licence to sin of course, or sit back and be content with your imperfections, for the law is in your heart and mind, and in your heart therefore , born again believers want to follow it.
If they want to preach the letter that kills, the letter neither they or anyone else can live up to, if they were not blind, and they were sincere, they would constantly admit their shortcomings concerning it. The Pharisees of Jesus day loved the praise of men more than the praise of God, so they would not of course have admitted to their own shortcomings, they kept them hidden from others, but not from God(Matthew ch 23)
When Paul wrote in acts 20:29 of wolves coming to not spare the sheep, he knew these people would quote the letter of certain scriptures to do it
 
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Although SDA has decided on their own interpretation for why God rejected Cain's sacrifice, we don't really know the reason. It's guesswork because we don't have enough information available to know God's motives and so all we know is that he rejected it.

You don't know the reason??? Throughout the bible, from the very first offense in the garden--animal sacrifice is what pointed to Jesus. It is what all patriarchs and later priests did. How can you not know?
Abel offered up what he was supposed to, he obeyed God. Cain did not. You do not see that? You think we are making something up when it is glaringly obvious??? Cain wanted to do his own thing instead of what God said. He did not know God--and sin was laying at his door.

You think we do not know our God? I know Him, not just about Him. Throughout my past He has been there, even through my anger He was with me. These past 2 years He was right beside me. I went to surgery 2 years ago in Jan. I did not wake up from it. I went into a 2 month coma, on a ventilator. All I remember about it is this----I was in a dream--in a room full of water all the way to the ceiling, I was trapped in a very thick white and green net that I was desperately trying to pull apart to get out and could not. I could not breathe--all of a sudden, I stopped struggling. I said--"whatever you want, Lord, whatever you want." It did not matter, alive or dead--whatever He wanted. I felt the most enormous sense of peace I have ever felt in my life. I felt totally wrapped in the arms of God, I just felt like I had melted into them, and I could breathe and I fell asleep and everything went black. I believe that is when I died. Next thing I know, I am waking up in a hospital bed and I was told it was 2 months later.
I had to go to rehab to learn how to sit up in bed, how to stand, how to take a few steps, hold a glass of water and brush my teeth. I knew He was with me and I got well.
My husband had not been hopeful. He just knew I was going to die and he lost hope and went back to drinking--for 3 months he did nothing but drink. By the time he realized I was coming home, it was too late. The damage had been done. when I came home it was to a man without hope and sick to nearly death. I was at first angry that God brought me back just to see this. I was devastated, but clung to my God. It took about a year--my husband getting sicker and sicker and he went into the hospital for 2 months. During those 2 months he came close to death 6 times, including a total cardiac arrest. Each time, God brought him out of it. I just kept praying that my husband would give his heart to the Lord. Finally they could do no more for him, he came home under hospice. He came in asking for 3 things--a smooch, a coke, and of all things---prayer! I did all of them. I read the bible to him frequently and then I asked him if he would give his heart to God, he said --quite frustratedly--I don't know how. I had him repeat the sinners prayer after me. I knew he was just repeating words, but then all of a sudden, he just broke through praying aloud on his own and I knew he meant it! I had prayed for that moment for 28 years.
At one point, either before or after this. I felt a very strong presence--a dark thing, ugly and scary and I grabbed my bible and started reading aloud, very loud. I kept reading and it left, I felt it was a demon come to try to take him before he could give his heart to God. Didn't work.
He was home for only 2 days. On the 2nd day, as I held him in my arms, he looked up at me smiled peacefully and died. But I was overjoyed that he had died not just in my arms, but with the arms of God wrapped around us both. Next we meet, he will no longer have that horrible thirst.
He has stayed with me throughout my trails after his death. I qualified for a loan that paid over 45,000 towards my mortgage reducing my payments by half. I just have SS benefits. I can now stay in my home. If I stay in this home for 5 years, I do not have to pay back the loan---they write it off!!!
My God is an awesome God. His Holy Spirit has led me through many trials and I have no doubt of Him and nothing can sway me away. Throw whatever rocks you want.

Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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And it therefore is not a day that God has declared Holy, set aside, or sanctified by Him. It is a day set aside by man. The Sabbath is all about God, worshipping God the Father, which is what Jesus pointed to during His ministry--God, the Father. And interesting to point out---the Creator--the one who set up the Sabbath at Creation--was Jesus Himself. Jesus already set up a day to celebrate Him, and His Father,
And it was called the Lords day because He set it up and declared it Holy. And has declared no other day holy.

If that's the case, then why are they not doing all of this celebrating, resurrecting, communioning, meeting, eating, being filled with the Holy Spirit on the sabbath rather than on the first day of the week? Did God just intentionally do all of these things just to confuse us and so that we would argue about it some 2000 plus years later. No, because he intended his ritual weekly sabbath for a particular purpose for a particular people and for a particular length of time. The ritual weekly sabbath is done and over. Jesus, our true rest, is everlasting, just like the garden was an everlasting sabbath, just like God's kingdom is an everlasting sabbath. No weekly rituals required.
 
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A very well written post, bekilyen.

We celebrate the risen Christ on the first day!

Thank you, and amen!

I don't understand what's not to get about that, but I suppose if you were brought up to think otherwise, it's difficult to get out of lawkeeping mode and into the mode of being Spirit-led.
 
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