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That's nice. How does it demonstrate that the vaccines "completely failed to slow the spread of COVID"? Seems like there would have to be some data to show how vaccinated versus unvaccinated people fared rather than just the raw fact that a highly infectious disease spread in a population which had both groups of people.
Oddly enough, that data is incredibly hard to come by, especially now.
Regardless, you're grasping at straws. In case you missed it, this is what happens to an epi curve when vaccines that actually work to stop the spread of a disease are introduced;
The same logic you apply above applies here. Not everyone was vaccinated against measles. Yet overall measles cases declined precipitously nearly immediately after they were introduced. This is what an effective vaccine does to an epi curve. And the higher the vaccination rate rose, the more quickly cases decreased. Exactly what one would (and should) expect from a vaccine that prevents disease.
Or we could look at how people who actually know what they're doing
Try thinking logically for just one minute.
If vaccines slow the spread of a disease, then cases would decline. Perhaps not immediately, but the claim is that the more people that are vaccinated, the less disease there would be. Are you with me so far?
Now let's look at how rapidly vaccination rates rose in South Korea;
As you can see, vaccine uptake in South Korea was considerably rapid. Now let's once again look at the number of cases relative to that vaccination rate;
I will be the first to admit that I am not an "expert", but I can read a graph. You don't need to be an epidemiologist to look at those 2 graphs and realize that vaccines DID NOT slow the spread of the disease in South Korea AT ALL despite high vaccination uptake. And that doesn't even take into account the booster doses given (currently over 75% of people in South Korea are boosted and that uptake was even quicker than the original vaccine series).
So explain to me how this data supports your contention that vaccines slowed the spread of the disease. If that were true, one would expect to see a decreased number of cases as vaccination numbers increased and there were fewer unvaccinated people (like we see in the chart above after the introduction of the measles vaccine). There is no decline. At all. Anywhere. Just a steady increase in rates of infection from the day the vaccines were introduced to more than 18 months later. Infection rates have never returned to pre-vaccinated levels, and they're STILL trending in the wrong direction.
research the effectiveness of vaccines. For example
Vaccination Rates and New COVID-19 Infections by US County, July-August 2021
Areas with low vaccination experienced a more intense surge of new cases during the third wave of the pandemic in the US, primarily driven by the Delta variant.Or DEFINE_ME
US counties with ≥ 80% of their residents ≥ 12 years of age fully vaccinated against COVID-19 had 30% (95% CI: 25−35; P < .001) and 46% (38−52; P < .001) lower rates of COVID-19 cases and deaths, respectively, versus those with <50% coverage (reference group).I can't help but notice how different this actual research looks versus trying to reverse engineer an anti-vaxx narrative from a single cherry-picked example.
I can't help but notice that you're accusing me of cherry-picking when I'm looking at the whole of the pandemic while your first linked study examines two months (July-August 2021) and your second linked study examines only April 1, 2021 - October 31, 2021.
The bottom line is, reality does not support the conclusions of those studies. You can buy into the gaslighting if you like, but don't pretend like it's because evidence and data is on your side. It clearly is not.
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