Reponse

[geetrue]

There has been much maligning of those who have advocated a life of repentance here lately. Everything from saying those who advocate repentance are "focused on sin"® or terrified of losing their salvation to the suggestion that it's just "mindless" repentance. People who advocate "obedience" have been equated to puppies that have been trained to perform.

So Optimax started a poll on this topic to see exactly where people stood. Thus far, I am pleased to see that it is unanimous that people believe they should repent when it is needed. There is, however, one member who won't cast a vote in the poll and won't answer the simple yes or no question, "Do you repent when needed". Now obviously it's anyone's right to decide whether they respond to a poll or answer a question gere, but since this has been a popular topic lately and the member in question has been very vocal, it's reasonable to assume that the non-answer constitutes an answer.

I have recently said that there are a small group of people in this forum who thought repentance was a dirty word, but after Optimax's poll, I now believe there is only one member who thinks that repentance is a dirty word. I've drawn this conclusion from the content of their posts and the refusal to answer this simple, direct question.

I don't want to speak for MollieSue. The only reason I'm posting any of this is because you asked the question, "Who was joking about repentance?", and this is how I see it.



I see it differently. What I have seen are admonitions, and I don't see any problem with that.

Have you had you coffee yet Pete?

Perhaps Frogester is just stirring it up. One things for sure he has brought the best and the worst out of us to combat this misaligned thought that puppies need to be spanked when they wet off the paper, but that humans only need a hug from Jesus.

Now do a word search in your heart for repentance on speaking boldly of a brother that you have ought with.

I just did a word search on the word bold and it blew my mind how it helped St Paul.

 

[probinson]

Well noone here Posts what they struggle with since they think it's noone's business so That is noone's business either. Let's just look at ourselves.

No one is asking anyone to post what they struggle with. The question was simply, "Do you repent when needed?" You don't have to post what you struggle with to answer that question. It's a simple yes or no question that reveals absolutely nothing about your personal struggles.

 

[probinson]

Have you had you coffee yet Pete?

I don't drink coffee. My caffeinated beverage of choice is Mountain Dew, and I have a can next to me right now.

Perhaps Frogester is just stirring it up.

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

One things for sure he has brought the best and the worst out of us to combat this misaligned thought that puppies need to be spanked when they wet off the paper, but that humans only need a hug from Jesus.

Now do a word search in your heart for repentance on speaking boldly of a brother that you have ought with.

I have no ought with Frogster. If I'm wrong, all he has to do is tell us what he believes regarding repenting when needed and I'll correct the record.

However, the question was asked who is joking about repentance and I answered. The only way I could offer an answer was to explain the situation.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Generally, there's this christian practice of "sin worship" and it gets to the place that sin or as in its alternative manifestation the devil becomes all the person talks about, thinks about, and gives credit for anything that happens . it's actually a real problem . it's good to have balance .

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

yah pretty sick indeed

 

[Svt4Him]

There has been much maligning of those who have advocated a life of repentance here lately. Everything from saying those who advocate repentance are "focused on sin"® or terrified of losing their salvation to the suggestion that it's just "mindless" repentance. People who advocate "obedience" have been equated to puppies that have been trained to perform.

So again, where was someone joking about repentance?

So Optimax started a poll on this topic to see exactly where people stood. Thus far, I am pleased to see that it is unanimous that people believe they should repent when it is needed. There is, however, one member who won't cast a vote in the poll and won't answer the simple yes or no question, "Do you repent when needed". Now obviously it's anyone's right to decide whether they respond to a poll or answer a question gere, but since this has been a popular topic lately and the member in question has been very vocal, it's reasonable to assume that the non-answer constitutes an answer.

Nope, some won't answer a poll because the answers are faulty, and in this case I wouldn't answer because I could choose more than one answer. But to infer anything from my non-answer is wrong as it is anyone's right to answer a poll.

I have recently said that there are a small group of people in this forum who thought repentance was a dirty word, but after Optimax's poll, I now believe there is only one member who thinks that repentance is a dirty word. I've drawn this conclusion from the content of their posts and the refusal to answer this simple, direct question.

I don't want to speak for MollieSue. The only reason I'm posting any of this is because you asked the question, "Who was joking about repentance?", and this is how I see it.

Still don't see anyone joking about it, but if it is in fact only one person, then the OP is misleading.

I see it differently. What I have seen are admonitions, and I don't see any problem with that.

Fair enough.

 

[Messy]

Still don't see anyone joking about it

The joke was about getting bored of people trying to see if/ implying you had a sin so they could attack you and I thought it was rather funny, but some people have got another sense of humor I guess.

 

[probinson]

So again, where was someone joking about repentance?

There have been lots of and posted in reference to people who advocate a lifestyle of repentance. You may not see that as joking, but I do.

Nope, some won't answer a poll because the answers are faulty, and in this case I wouldn't answer because I could choose more than one answer. But to infer anything from my non-answer is wrong as it is anyone's right to answer a poll.

The inference I made was based not only on the refusal to vote in the poll or answer a simple question but also on the responses in that thread and in others on the same topic.

I know I'm the only one that draws inferences from people's posts. Everyone else here makes such a concentrated effort to be entirely objective...

Still don't see anyone joking about it, but if it is in fact only one person, then the OP is misleading.

Of all the things that are misleading on this forum, I find it odd that you've chosen to focus on this OP (which I personally don't find misleading at all). But to each his own, I suppose.

 

[Frogster]

Have you had you coffee yet Pete?

Perhaps Frogester is just stirring it up. One things for sure he has brought the best and the worst out of us to combat this misaligned thought that puppies need to be spanked when they wet off the paper, but that humans only need a hug from Jesus.

Now do a word search in your heart for repentance on speaking boldly of a brother that you have ought with.

I just did a word search on the word bold and it blew my mind how it helped St Paul.

 

[Frogster]

I don't drink coffee. My caffeinated beverage of choice is Mountain Dew, and I have a can next to me right now.



Thanks, Captain Obvious.



I have no ought with Frogster. If I'm wrong, all he has to do is tell us what he believes regarding repenting when needed and I'll correct the record.

However, the question was asked who is joking about repentance and I answered. The only way I could offer an answer was to explain the situation.

Red above, whaaaa!???..you actually got on (appeared) on my law thread a while ago, tried to get me! Then as geetrue mentioned on a thread, you appeared again, only to get me, anyone can see that, please own it.

Paaaleeeease!

 

[probinson]

Generally, there's this christian practice of "sin worship" and it gets to the place that sin or as in its alternative manifestation the devil becomes all the person talks about, thinks about, and gives credit for anything that happens . it's actually a real problem .

I don't disagree that is a problem.

Are there people here on this forum doing that?

 

[Frogster]

nm...

 

[Svt4Him]

Of all the things that are misleading on this forum, I find it odd that you've chosen to focus on this OP (which I personally don't find misleading at all). But to each his own, I suppose.

Love the fallacy. Not here to address the issues of the forum, I usually narrow the scope of my posts to the thread I'm posting in. Don't know why it seems this has become so personal though, but as you said, each to his own.

 

[Alithis]

No one is asking anyone to post what they struggle with. The question was simply, "Do you repent when needed?" You don't have to post what you struggle with to answer that question. It's a simple yes or no question that reveals absolutely nothing about your personal struggles.

I have often posted ..in testimonies what i have struggled with -past tense, and of how the lord delivered me so i struggle no longer

and i'm more the happy to share what im struggling with presently as the lord is asking more and more of my life surrendered to him ..but i have a feeling that it will bring a sense of conviction to most here and possibly some will get defensive , some will accuse me of legalism .others of being judgmental ,some will encourage me and others possibly call me a fanatic haha ..

but then i view "struggling " not in the negative connotation .. hmm how to word that ... what i mean is this -

-people think we struggle against a certain sin .. we do not . why? because the certain sin is not telling us to stop ..so wheres the struggle ?
no, we don't struggle against the sin.. we struggle against God in order to commit the sin ..God is leading us by grace to cease because he knows its harmful and desires the best for us ..so he both tells us in our hearts to stop AND gives us ALL we need to do so through the power of the blood of the lamb of God .. hence .. in order to continue in that Sin we must "strive against GOD " ...

want the struggle to cease? surrender to God and do what he tells us .. and then .. no struggle .. just rest .

 

[jiminpa]

I have often posted ..in testimonies what i have struggled with -past tense, and of how the lord delivered me so i struggle no longer

and i'm more the happy to share what im struggling with presently as the lord is asking more and more of my life surrendered to him ..but i have a feeling that it will bring a sense of conviction to most here and possibly some will get defensive , some will accuse me of legalism .others of being judgmental ,some will encourage me and others possibly call me a fanatic haha ..

but then i view "struggling " not in the negative connotation .. hmm how to word that ... what i mean is this -

-people think we struggle against a certain sin .. we do not . why? because the certain sin is not telling us to stop ..so wheres the struggle ?
no, we don't struggle against the sin.. we struggle against God in order to commit the sin ..God is leading us by grace to cease because he knows its harmful and desires the best for us ..so he both tells us in our hearts to stop AND gives us ALL we need to do so through the power of the blood of the lamb of God .. hence .. in order to continue in that Sin we must "strive against GOD " ...

want the struggle to cease? surrender to God and do what he tells us .. and then .. no struggle .. just rest .

Agreed, but as a natural pragmatist my intellect, (flesh), doesn't see or like that, so it is a struggle to bring my flesh in line with God.

Still, I really like your perspective on it.

 

[Frogster]

Generally, there's this christian practice of "sin worship" and it gets to the place that sin or as in its alternative manifestation the devil becomes all the person talks about, thinks about, and gives credit for anything that happens . it's actually a real problem . it's good to have balance .

true...

 

[Joy]

i disagree mc
I have requested this thread to be closed

 

[James Is Back]

Mod Hat On

Thread closed at OP's request.

Mod Hat Off
​