The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

[SabbathBlessings]

What commandments, statutes, and laws?

When God defines HIS commandments, it doesn't change later in Scripture because they belong to Him. Its God's Testimony, man is not greater than God, never will be.

 

[Carl Emerson]

God said everything was created in our world a long time ago Gen 2:1-3, so not sure what you're referring to.

Genesis 2:2
By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.

Do you think He is still resting on the 'seventh day' ?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Genesis 2:2
By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.

Do you think He is still resting on the 'seventh day' ?

Since God didn't reveal this, I would be less worried about what God is doing right now, because we are not God, and more concerned what God asks of us. That's me though.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Since God didn't reveal this, I would be less worried about what God is doing right now, because we are not God, and more concerned what God asks of us. That's me though.

Well - He does invite sharing with Him in His Sabbath Rest. This would seem to indicate He is still resting.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Well - He does invite sharing with Him in His Sabbath Rest. This would seem to indicate He is still resting.

It doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest, it says His rest. His rest is free of sin and rebellion so one would Also be ceasing from their works as God did Heb4:10 on the seventh day Heb4:4 Exo20:11 or in other words those who have entered His rest would be keeping the 4th commandment. Why God spoke of the seventh day in this way Heb 4:4 Exo20:8-11

 

[Carl Emerson]

It doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest, it says His rest.

Hebrews 4:8-10​

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8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. ​

9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. ​

10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.​

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Hebrews 4:8-10​

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8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. ​

9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. ​

10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.​

Yes, the Sabbath rest remains for the people of God, the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke23:56 why this verse literally translates into keeping the Sabbath that remains for God's people it doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest. There are two different rests in this entire passage not one. Verse 10 clearly shows these two rests those who has entered His rest has himself ALSO, which means they are doing something in ADDITION and it tells us those who have entered ALSO rest from his works as God did from His, on the seventh day Heb4:4

It doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest anywhere in this passage, Most of the passage is quoting OT why Joshua David are mentioned and where God spoke of the seventh day in this way etc. Heb4:4 referring to the 4th commandment. Exo20:8-11

 

[Carl Emerson]

Luke 23:56 was before the resurrection and the birth of the Body of Christ.

Of course they followed the Old Covenant at this time - it was all they knew.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Luke 23:56 was before the resurrection and the birth of the Body of Christ.

Of course they followed the Old Covenant at this time - it was all they knew.

Jesus died on Friday, His blood ratified His covenant. It Is Finished, nothing can be added to His covenant without Him sacrificing Himself all over again, but His sacrifice was once and for all Heb10:10 The faithful disciples of Christ who followed Him everywhere, still kept the Sabbath after His death according to the commandment. They were the first people to see Jesus after His rose from the dead, He never told them they no longer needed to keep the Sabbath. He already indicated His people would be keeping the Sabbath long after His death and at His second coming Mat24:20 and forever Isaiah66:23. Not keeping God’s 4th commandment is a man-made idea, not coming from God. Something He did warn us about through Dan7:;25

 

[Carl Emerson]

it doesn't say we enter His Sabbath rest.

Really...

Let the reader decide...
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The Believer’s Rest​

4 Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also did; but the word they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united with those who listened with faith. 3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,

“As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this passage, “They certainly shall not enter My rest.” 6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, 7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. 11 Therefore let’s make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same example of disobedience.
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Sorry but the clear reading of the text must trump any human theology.

Double Blessings and have a great day.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Really...

Let the reader decide...
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The Believer’s Rest​

4 Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also did; but the word they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united with those who listened with faith. 3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,

“As I swore in My anger,
They certainly shall not enter My rest,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this passage, “They certainly shall not enter My rest.” 6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who previously had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, 7 He again sets a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 Consequently, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. 11 Therefore let’s make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same example of disobedience.
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Sorry but the clear reading of the text must trump any human theology.

Double Blessings and have a great day.

Still doesn’t say we enter His Sabbath rest, it says clearly there remains, not changed a Sabbath rest for God’s people, and the Greek word in this verse literally means keeping the Sabbath, what God called His people to do Exo20:8-11 Heb4:4. The other rests in this passage that we enter through faith is not the Sabbath and look up every Greek word to see for yourself, it has nothing to do with the Sabbath. One would have to be familiar with the OT to understand this passage as it’s what it references at least three different times. Since it’s mainly what it’s mainly quoting OT. God has always had more than one rest from the beginning and I can show that to you from the book of Exodus. This passage is not saying one rest deletes the other, they work only in tandem.

We still need to get past the two rest clearly mentioned in Verse 10 and why verse 4 is quoting the 4th commandment, which those who have entered into Christ rest, also cease from their works as God did on the seventh day. Heb4:4 why the Sabbath rest remains, not changed for God’s people, because God’s people keep God’s commandments Rev14:12, the way God said, because He is God and we are called to be His faithful servants Isa56:6

 

[Carl Emerson]

What do others think ?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What do others think ?

If you are looking for the popular vote, you will have it.

If looking for God’s Truth Psa119:151, you might need to keep digging and prayerfully study more and realize that it doesn’t say we do not need to keep the 4th commandment anywhere in this passage, it was written decades after the Cross, Jesus would have to die all over again to make a change to His covenant. He already promised He would not alter His words Psa89:34 Mat5:18 God tells us what we need to know from His own mouth, but the same warning in Hebrews 4, still continues on. Heb 4:6-7 Heb3:7-13 Psa95:7-13 Heb4:11

Guess all gets sorted out soon enough.