The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

[SabbathBlessings]

Again, you are mistaking me for someone who claims we should observe Sunday instead of Saturday and you would be mistaken. I don't hold one day over any day. That's not what entering Christ's rest is about.

That's not what Christ rest is about, I guess that why you didn't provide Scripture.

In Christ rest there is no disobedience to Him or His commandment, just peace and righteousness Isa 48:18 Sin is the transgression of God's Laws 1John3:4 James2:11 so breaking them including the 4th commandment is sin. God never plucked out this commandment, man has but He did warned it would happen Dan7:25

Those before us didn't enter into Christ rest due to disobedience.

Heb 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

What they broke during the trial of the wilderness David was referring to and why they did not enter for for breaking God's laws and Sabbath -keeping was specifically singled out.

What Hebrews is quoting is David

Heb4:7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

Psa 95:7 Today, if you will hear His voice:
8 “Do not harden your hearts, as in the [c]rebellion,
As in the day of [d]trial in the wilderness,
9 When your fathers tested Me;
They tried Me, though they saw My work.
10 For forty years I was [e]grieved with that generation,
And said, ‘It is a people who go astray in their hearts,
And they do not know My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

And what they disobeyed in their trial of the wilderness, the exact warning this passage is telling us, which I do not beleive is going to yield a different result. Heb4:11

Eze 22:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Many Israelites never entered their rest during the trial of the wilderness because of Sabbath keeping and breaking God's commandment.

Why if we go back to the story of Joshua which this passage is referring to, before they entered their rest (promised land) The Ten Commandments was repeated 40 years later telling them to diligently keep and teach their children to keep before entering (just as we are to Rev22:14-15)

People act like the rest Christ gives started 30+ years after the Cross in Hebrews, but Christ rest started from the foundation of the earth, in His rest no one is sinning, that is unrest and shows a harden heart and being in rebellion to God. Heb3:7-19 and of course it would include the 4th commandment, because God placed that commandment along with the other 9 commandments in the same unit, all Ten unedited, written by the Holy Spirit, sits under His mercy seat Exo25:21 in heaven Ex031:18 Rev 15:5 Rev11:18-19 where justice and mercy will come together soon. I personally would not want to take away something He covers Exo20:6 Pro28:13, but we have free will

Man's word.

This is very much in the word of God.

God doesn't define what the beast mark is, the beast which is a kingdom or government agency does, its their mark, not God's. God told us this beast would change God's times and laws and they did and claim they did so without Biblical authority, but based on their own power over God's. God's mark or seal is found in the Sabbath commandment Exo20:11. The end is about worship. When do people worship on- Saturday or Sunday. One is a commandment of God, the other a tradition of man. Jesus said false worship is laying aside the commandment's of God for the commandments of man Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14. We see this clearly in Rev 14:11-12 which the last part is the antidote for v11 and of course it is God's version of His commandments, not mans.

Sadly many people of many denominations are going to fall for the show that Satan and his will put on. That's what apostasy is. Someone who has defected from the truth. It has nothing to do with Sat or Sun. It has to do with believing they are the real thing when they are actually worshipping the fake.

All God's commandments are Truth Psa119:151 including the 4th commandments just as God said it was and yes apostasy is turning from God's Truth, which is God's standards, instead of following what's popular with man.

I don't think so. You are the one that seems to believe someone can't go to church on Sunday to worship. We can worship any day of the week.

Do you believe it's a sin to go to church and worship on Sunday? And if so, where is that stated in the bible?

You are putting words in my mouth. The Sabbath is more than just going to church. Its not wrong to worship God on any day or go to church on any day. It becomes wrong when we are doing something in lieu of obeying one of God's commandments, or exalting a day God made for works and labors Exo 20:9 over the only day God sanctified for holy use and commanded us to keep the Sabbath day holy Exo20:8-11 as it is the Holy Day of the Lord thus saith the Lord. Isa58:13

Its not me saying this, God did, He does not change. There's a lot of thus saith the Lords sadly one would have to ignore to come to the conclusions we can disobey this commandment just as those did before us and expect a different result. Its the battle over worship and whoever we obey is who we serve Rom6:16 so our actions will determine the path we end up on. If we hear God's voice or listen to another voice.

Eze 22:26 Her priests have [g]violated My law and profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them

 

[Carl Emerson]

Regardless what man has done to the calendar, it never changed the weekly cycle.

During Roman times there was an 8 day week.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

During Roman times there was an 8 day week.

Doesn't change that Sunday is the first day and the Sabbath is and will always be on the seventh day.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Doesn't change that Sunday is the first day and the Sabbath is and will always be on the seventh day.

And it would fall on a different calendar day each week.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

And it would fall on a different calendar day each week.

Doesn't change God's weekly cycle from creation Gen2:1-3. Again why almost every ancient language Saturday means Sabbath. The Jews have been around since very early on, everyone who wants to keep the Sabbath can, its just a matter of how many arguments can one try to come up with so we don't have to. God knows our hearts and thoughts. If one wants to obey Him, you find ways