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Questions about iconography...

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by Michael G, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. AlwaysForget

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    Question 1:
    I have heard that if icon (mounted print or the original one) gets damaged beyond repair you are suppose to burn it and spread ashes over the water. Is it correct?
    What if the varnish is toxic? or I don't have a place to burn it?

    Question 2:
    What about electronic images? If I'm deleting an image of an icon from my HD am I destroying it sort of the same way the shredder does when destroying icon paper print?


    Question 3:
    I've heard of a few myrrh-weeping icons that are actually prints mounted on the board.
    We move more & more toward digital images.
    If the image of the icon is displayed in the digital frame can it be venerated the same way as the printed images?
     
  2. Steinbeck

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    Digital images of icons are not like even a printed .jpg file because, I guess, the digital file is not, how to say, material. We don't venerate computer screens. We don't put up LCD iconostases. There is a greater value, I think, in the icon that is lovingly made by hand--whether it be painted or a printed photo glued to a board.
     
  3. Hrodrich

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    The last post, by Steinbeck made me wonder. Is it acceptable, if one has absolutely no money to spend (like myself), to print off an icon and decoupage it onto a board?

    Thanks.
     
  4. ArmyMatt

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    since God knows the heart, I would say that would be okay. I know I have some prints from icons on my corner.
     
  5. gurneyhalleck1

    gurneyhalleck1 auto-correct iPhone survivor

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    Gurney says "Is Outrage!" ^_^

     
  6. ArmyMatt

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    the Hawaiian Iveron icon is a print, and it streams myrrh.

    YOU IS OUTRAGE!
     
  7. Euthymios

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    I don't care for western art.
     
  8. MayDay3

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    Looks more Coptic to me, but I'm no Iconography expert.
     
  9. Shieldmaiden4Christ

    Shieldmaiden4Christ Eastward bound

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    Thoughts on first icons to get?
     
  10. ikonographics

    ikonographics In patience I waited patiently on the Lord

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    Christ and the Theotokos are a must then you can add your patron saint and any other saints you love :)
     
  11. Shieldmaiden4Christ

    Shieldmaiden4Christ Eastward bound

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    Thanks! That's what I figured!
     
  12. MrJim

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    just sayin' got a new icon from Mike today and it's very nice...
     
  13. ArmyMatt

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    The Rublev icon of the Holy Trinity
     
  14. Shieldmaiden4Christ

    Shieldmaiden4Christ Eastward bound

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    Huh, that is a beautiful one (especially in terms of symbolism and metaphor.)
     
  15. ArmyMatt

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    durn tootin
     
  16. Dewi Sant

    Dewi Sant Do the little things

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    There have been times when my cell phone has served as portable icon, so in that sense it has been venerated ;)
    An act of violence against a screen depicting an icon would be much the same as one toward an icon made of wood and paint.
    The physical materials of painted/written icons are a vehicle for the depiction and for as long as the image can be discerned it should be honoured.

    Apologies if this seems facetious.

    Every sacred image we encounter is holy in its presence.
     
  17. ikonographics

    ikonographics In patience I waited patiently on the Lord

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    The icon is not the wood or the paint. According to the Father's and in particular St Theodore the Studite, the icon is the form of the person depticted, so no matter if it is on wood or on a screen, no matter what technique is used to paint it, the form of Christ (or the saints) is the icon.
     
  18. Lutheran Monk

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    Who are these saints on the left and right of the Pantocrator? Picked this print up at a thrift shop the other day, but I don't read Cyrillic.

    Also, question about veneration -- I live in a dorm room most of the year, but I started to create a small icon corner to do my daily prayers. Only thing is that I'm not allowed to have an actual candle in the dorms, so is it acceptable to use electric votive candles, or should I use no candles, or...?
     

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  19. ArmyMatt

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    while I can't read the Cyrillic, I can answer your question and say, yes, you can use electric candles if it helps you pray
     
  20. nutroll

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    It's hard to make out for sure from the picture, but it appears to be Alexander Nevsky on the left ( he took the monastic Schema just before his death) and his son Daniil of Moscow on the right and Jesus Christ, Lord Almighty in the center.
     
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