• Welcome to Christian Forums
  1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a forum to discuss Christianity in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

purchasing icons, the good, the bad and the ugly

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by Hoankan, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. GoingByzantine

    GoingByzantine Seeking the Narrow Road Supporter

    +810
    Eastern Orthodox
    Single
    US-Libertarian
    I am pleased to learn that I am not alone, there are some very obscure saints that I would like to have an icon of, and it is difficult to find reputable iconographers selling their own prints nowadays, not another persons. Once I emailed a certain "reputable" website and asked if they had any icons of Saint Nilus the Younger, they replied that they did not have any, but they said that if I found one, I could send it to them and they would make me a custom icon print. Needless, to say, I never emailed them back since that seemed super unethical...:sigh:

    Nowadays, I try to buy icons or prints directly from the iconographer who wrote it, or I "rescue" icons from garage sales and thrift stores. This way I am not perpetuating the exploitation of our saints, by purchasing "stolen" icons. Although I try not to judge others, since I am a lowly sinner myself, I believe that these merchants are acting similarly to the merchants that were cleansed from the temple by our Lord.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  2. ~Anastasia~

    ~Anastasia~ † Servant of God † Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

    +9,921
    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    Married
    I know, it's difficult, isn't it?

    The only good thing I can say is that a couple of the icons I really wanted are very, very old ones, and so I guess there is no longer anyone receiving any money for them. I have two of them now - the Hagia Sophia Christ, and the Resurrection from the walls of a Church I can't bring to mind the name of. The other is a very particular icon of the Theotokos and Christ, and I'm not sure the age of it, but I'd really like that very exact one.

    I wish I could find icons at thrift stores and such, but no one around here donates them apparently. Which too is good - I'm guessing folks then are more aware and respectful. Or else there are far fewer Orthodox here. ;) I once saw a non-standard very western-looking almost-icon of the Virgin Mary in the Catholic thrift store, but they were treating it well and asking high dollar for it.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  3. GoingByzantine

    GoingByzantine Seeking the Narrow Road Supporter

    +810
    Eastern Orthodox
    Single
    US-Libertarian
    My general understanding is that it is perfectly acceptable (at least in the U.S.) to purchase copies of "historic" icons where the author and their immediate descendants have reposed. Most of the Orthodox churches that I have been to have copies of some of the most famous icons, so this is what has led me to the conclusion that this is an acceptable practice. :)

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the miraculous Hawaiian Myrrh Bearing Icon is actually a copy of a much older icon?
     
  4. ~Anastasia~

    ~Anastasia~ † Servant of God † Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

    +9,921
    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    Married
    I think it is but I'd have to double check my memory. If I'm remembering right, the one it was copied from streamed myrrh too, and it might be one that a friend told me a story about the caretaker of that one (which the icon is currently lost).

    But I might be mixing them up.
     
  5. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

    +5,307
    Eastern Orthodox
    Married
    US-Republican
    yes, the Hawaiian Icon is a copy and a print of the Iveron Icon which was lost when Br Jose Munoz-Cortez was murdered.
     
  6. ~Anastasia~

    ~Anastasia~ † Servant of God † Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

    +9,921
    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    Married
    Thank you. I was wondering if I had it mixed up with another or not.

    We should pray for the caretakers of those icons. My friend helps guard the Hawaiian icon sometimes when it travels. He was so kind and sent me two small copies along with some of the myrrh ... it was a comfort I can't describe while I was going through all that cancer stuff ... and still is. I had no idea the kinds of precautions they have to take, and how dangerous it can be.

    It's difficult to imagine someone wishing to steal them. Unless it is an enemy? Everything is by the grace of God, and that can't be controlled by people.
     
Loading...