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Prominent Southern Baptists are dropping ‘Southern’ name amid racial unrest

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SummerMadness, Sep 15, 2020.

  1. SummerMadness

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    Prominent Southern Baptists are dropping ‘Southern’ name amid racial unrest
     
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  2. Hammster

    Hammster I am the wretch in the song. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Sadly, Greear is woke.
     
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  3. SummerMadness

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    It's unfortunate when someone sees a move to increase Christian fellowship as "sad."
     
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    I've been impressed with J.D. Greear's leadership. It makes good practical and spiritual sense to acknowledge the past, make appropriate changes, and move forward. I'm not Baptist, but I find this to be very encouraging.
     
  5. iluvatar5150

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    Why is this sad? The entire genesis of the "southern" moniker for the baptist organization was their support for slavery.
     
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    “Every week we gather to worship a savior who died for the whole world, not one part of it. What we call ourselves should make that clear.”

    If that was meant sincerely, the first thing Greear would dump would be the term "Black Lives Matter."
     
  7. Hammster

    Hammster I am the wretch in the song. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    It’s sad when someone who is supposed to be leading caves to cultural Marxism.
     
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  8. Hammster

    Hammster I am the wretch in the song. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    We don’t support slavery anymore. We haven’t for a few years now.
     
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  9. Albion

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    Let them choose this name and then see how many people reading it conclude that it's some sort of splinter group or cult.
     
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    I wasn't aware they were called the Black Lives Matter Baptist Convention.
     
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  13. Albion

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    The truth is that the SBC is willing to do this in order to try to maintain status.

    This is not a new idea and the recent riots are not the cause of discussions within the Southern Baptist Convention looking to change the name. Nor is the idea of "fellowship," etc.

    For years, this has been under consideration; and the reason was that, in a time when churches, the SBC included, are losing members, it might help to make the name seem less regional. The hope has been that a new name will make a potential joiner think of this denomination as more important and nationwide in scope, especially to people who live somewhere other than in the American South.
     
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  14. iluvatar5150

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    It's been too few years since a good chunk of the SBC membership explicitly favored segregation. When the SBTS hosted MLK in 1961, many churches protested and withdrew their support.
    https://sbts-wordpress-uploads.s3.a...acism-and-the-Legacy-of-Slavery-Report-v4.pdf

    In 1964, they took a vote on whether or not to affirm that year's civil rights act and the measure narrowly failed.

    There's also a lot of cultural baggage associated with the name. For the last 15 years or so, I've been attending churches in east coast urban centers that are affiliated with the SBC, but don't advertise it loudly partly because the typical culture of the SBC (i.e. formal dress, paternalistic, legalistic, culturally isolationist, fire & brimstone preaching, overtly conservative politics) is not the sort of culture one would find in those churches.
     
  15. Albion

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    That's part of what I was thinking of when writing my earlier post. The idea of changing the name began years ago, not just recently, and the first step was not to make a formal name change but to allow congregations to just stop identifying as SBC, even if they were. Now apparently, some think that the time is right to actually change the convention's name.
     
  16. Hammster

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    Which was how many years ago now?
     
  17. iluvatar5150

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    How many years ago was it that they opened segregation academies?

    How many years ago was it that the supreme court denied tax exempt status to those segregation academies?

    Segregation academy - Wikipedia
     
  18. Hammster

    Hammster I am the wretch in the song. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Yeah. How many years ago?
     
  19. cow451

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    IOW, “So we Southern Baptists are going to stop being racist and to prove it we’re gonna keep doing the same old crap.”
     
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    A little Johnny Reb come lately? The last place racial barriers will break down are in evangelical churches in the South IMHO.
     
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