Biden Admin Launches Federal Investigation Into Southern Baptist Convention, Church Says

[Gnarwhal]

This is going to do wonders to assuage the prejudices the Southern Baptists have against Catholics. Doesn't matter how much we disown him or even if he were excommunicated. He's President. He calls himself Catholic. That's all they need to know to confirm all those Kennedy-era fears about what Catholics would do with political power in America.

President Joe Biden’s (D) administration has reportedly launched an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) over its handling of alleged scandals within the church.

The SBC is the largest protestant faith group in the United States and is among the most politically conservative as 64% of the church’s members are Republican, according to a report from Pew Research Center.

“The SBC Executive Committee recently became aware that the Department of Justice has initiated an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention, and that the investigation will include multiple SBC entities,” the church’s executive leadership said in a statement. “Individually and collectively each SBC entity is resolved to fully and completely cooperate with the investigation.”​

Biden Admin Launches Federal Investigation Into Southern Baptist Convention, Church Says | The Daily Wire

 

[chevyontheriver]

This is going to do wonders to assuage the prejudices the Southern Baptists have against Catholics. Doesn't matter how much we disown him or even if he were excommunicated. He's President. He calls himself Catholic. That's all they need to know to confirm all those Kennedy-era fears about what Catholics would do with political power in America.

President Joe Biden’s (D) administration has reportedly launched an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) over its handling of alleged scandals within the church.

The SBC is the largest protestant faith group in the United States and is among the most politically conservative as 64% of the church’s members are Republican, according to a report from Pew Research Center.

“The SBC Executive Committee recently became aware that the Department of Justice has initiated an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention, and that the investigation will include multiple SBC entities,” the church’s executive leadership said in a statement. “Individually and collectively each SBC entity is resolved to fully and completely cooperate with the investigation.”​

Biden Admin Launches Federal Investigation Into Southern Baptist Convention, Church Says | The Daily Wire

A Catholic plot against them? Really? What a dodge to cover up abuse that would be.

 

[narnia59]

This is going to do wonders to assuage the prejudices the Southern Baptists have against Catholics. Doesn't matter how much we disown him or even if he were excommunicated. He's President. He calls himself Catholic. That's all they need to know to confirm all those Kennedy-era fears about what Catholics would do with political power in America.

President Joe Biden’s (D) administration has reportedly launched an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) over its handling of alleged scandals within the church.

The SBC is the largest protestant faith group in the United States and is among the most politically conservative as 64% of the church’s members are Republican, according to a report from Pew Research Center.

“The SBC Executive Committee recently became aware that the Department of Justice has initiated an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention, and that the investigation will include multiple SBC entities,” the church’s executive leadership said in a statement. “Individually and collectively each SBC entity is resolved to fully and completely cooperate with the investigation.”​

Biden Admin Launches Federal Investigation Into Southern Baptist Convention, Church Says | The Daily Wire

It's a mixed bag. Yes, they have just as much of a history of sexual abuse scandals and coverups as the Catholic church, and that's pretty much true in all churches and places where people gather (schools, organizations etc). But it's hard to target a lot of loose-fitting groups, which is why the Catholic church was so easy. The relationship of individual churches to the SBC is pretty loose (unlike the Catholic Church) but it is still a collective that allows it to be easier to target than a single mega church is.

Should the government be investigating these types of abuses and coverups? In my opinion, yes.

What makes it political is the selective targeting of a conservative group and ignoring other glaring problem areas. There is more abuse and coverups that occur in public schools, but nobody will touch that sacred cow. Or their friends in Hollywood.

 

[eleos1954]

This is going to do wonders to assuage the prejudices the Southern Baptists have against Catholics. Doesn't matter how much we disown him or even if he were excommunicated. He's President. He calls himself Catholic. That's all they need to know to confirm all those Kennedy-era fears about what Catholics would do with political power in America.

President Joe Biden’s (D) administration has reportedly launched an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) over its handling of alleged scandals within the church.

The SBC is the largest protestant faith group in the United States and is among the most politically conservative as 64% of the church’s members are Republican, according to a report from Pew Research Center.

“The SBC Executive Committee recently became aware that the Department of Justice has initiated an investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention, and that the investigation will include multiple SBC entities,” the church’s executive leadership said in a statement. “Individually and collectively each SBC entity is resolved to fully and completely cooperate with the investigation.”​

Biden Admin Launches Federal Investigation Into Southern Baptist Convention, Church Says | The Daily Wire

There is prejudice on both sides ... Protestant - Catholic

we just need to keep church and state separate.

 

[chevyontheriver]

There is prejudice on both sides ... Protestant - Catholic

we just need to keep church and state separate.

Joe Biden acting as if he was a Catholic is laughable. Trump, I don't believe I am saying this, was more Catholic than Joe Biden. As far as I am concerned this is the Feds attacking a religious institution. Not Catholics attacking Baptists. The Feds are also saying that Catholic schools which receive money for lunches for children in poverty will have to comply with the whole rainbow panoply of LGBTQWERTY++++ regulations. So it's not Catholics vs Baptists on this. It's the Feds going after religious institutions that may not be sufficiently woke.

Ironically, had the Baptists been looking into 'affairs' in their own house, rather than proclaiming their superiority over Catholics dealing with sexual abuse, there would have been nothing at all for the Feds to investigate in the SBC. It's a shameful mess, whether in the Catholic Church or the SBC or whatever other group has been covering it all up so nicely but gets it strewn all over the internet in a day or two. We Catholics earned opprobrium over all of this. But we are not the only ones who have earned it.

 

[Sword of the Lord]

I'm not so sure the SBs will look at this as an attack from the CC. Everyone knows Biden is as much a Christian as al-Zawahiri. I think everyone with at least two IQ points sees this for what it is, no matter what they call it: political. Specifically targeting conservatives and Trump supporters.

 

[RileyG]

Is it because of sexual abuse or something more?

 

[chevyontheriver]

Is it because of sexual abuse or something more?

One wonders with the woke Fed, but ostensibly it is sexual abuse and sexual abuse coverup. State prosecutors have been involved investigating this in the Catholic Church, but not the Feds. Yet. I don’t see it appropriately a Federal matter. So I’m suspicious it could be more an anti-Christian thing with our new woke Fed. The Baptists messed up bad. Like the Catholics did. Like other kinds of Christians and non-Christians did and are doing right now but have yet to be caught. The love of Jesus demands accountability and if the SBC chose to hide it instead well then somebody’s gotta do it.

 

[Bob Crowley]

We had a Royal Commission into Instutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/

On 22 October 2018, the (then) Prime Minister of Australia, Scott Morrison, delivered in Parliament House a National Apology Address on behalf of the Australian people:[199]

.. The crimes of ritual sexual abuse happened in schools, churches, youth groups, scout troops, orphanages, foster homes, sporting clubs, group homes, charities, and in family homes as well. It

The commission was aimed at institutions and not abuse in family homes, which is probably the most common form of abuse.

Characteristics and outcomes of childhood abuse.

An estimated 81% (861,100) of persons who experienced childhood physical abuse were first abused by a family member, including 78% (824,300) who were first abused by a parent. For the first incident of childhood sexual abuse, non-familial known persons were the most common perpetrators.

Schools were covered as the following extract makes clear, whether government, private or religious -

Nature and extent of child sexual abuse in schools
Almost one in three of all survivors we heard about in private sessions (2,186 survivors or 31.8 per cent) told us they were sexually abused in a school setting as a child. Of these survivors:

• three-quarters (75.9 per cent) said they were abused in non-government schools, of which 73.8 per cent identified a Catholic school and 26.4 per cent identified an Independent school
• one-quarter (24.9 per cent) said they were abused in government schools
• almost three-quarters (71.8 per cent) said they were abused in a religious school, while 4.1 per cent said they were abused in a secular non-government school
• almost one in three (30.4 per cent) said they were abused in a boarding school setting, of which 96.8 per cent told us it was a non-government boarding school and 3.2 per cent identified a government boarding school. Of the non-government boarding schools, 57.0 per cent identified a Catholic school and 43.2 per cent identified an Independent school.

(my comment - I don't know if there are any state run boarding schools in Australia - I think they're all private or religious).

Survivors told us about abuse occurring in 1,069 schools, of which 55.8 per cent were non-government schools and 44.2 per cent were government schools.

Maybe the US needs something similar, but I doubt it would happen because of the conflicting lines of authority. The USA apparently has 18 intelligence agencies alone, so how many religious outfits, schools and private organisations would there be, to say nothing of the jealously guarded states rights.

 

[chevyontheriver]

We had a Royal Commission into Instutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/



The commission was aimed at institutions and not abuse in family homes, which is probably the most common form of abuse.

Characteristics and outcomes of childhood abuse.



Schools were covered as the following extract makes clear, whether government, private or religious -



Maybe the US needs something similar, but I doubt it would happen because of the conflicting lines of authority. The USA apparently has 18 intelligence agencies alone, so how many religious outfits, schools and private organisations would there be, to say nothing of the jealously guarded states rights.

In the USA up to now various state governments have investigated, and before that it was only local prosecutors. Never the Feds. Until now with the Baptists.

The feds have kept their distance up to now because in the USA, as opposed to other former British colonies, the regency does not run the Church. It isn't ideal the way we have it but the Feds know to keep their distance. Until now. State investigations are constitutionally odd but Federal investigations are odder.

Schools, public schools anyhow, are immune from prosecution for sexual abuse. You can get the perpetrator but there are no deep pockets. So essentially unless a public school teacher is caught in the act, nothing at all happens.

Until recently lawyers would go after the Catholic Church because they could sue for some real money, because the Catholic Church has deep pockets. Lutherans and Anglicans and Baptists and the SDA and all the other denominations do not have deep pockets. So lawyers don't care much.

One could hope that such investigations would get to the bottom of things. One would have hoped that the SBC could have policed itself. One would have hoped that the Catholic Church would have policed itself. That's what we get for not doing it right ourselves. We get a woke Fed doing whatever they want to.

 

[WarriorAngel]

It's a mixed bag. Yes, they have just as much of a history of sexual abuse scandals and coverups as the Catholic church, and that's pretty much true in all churches and places where people gather (schools, organizations etc). But it's hard to target a lot of loose-fitting groups, which is why the Catholic church was so easy. The relationship of individual churches to the SBC is pretty loose (unlike the Catholic Church) but it is still a collective that allows it to be easier to target than a single mega church is.

Should the government be investigating these types of abuses and coverups? In my opinion, yes.

What makes it political is the selective targeting of a conservative group and ignoring other glaring problem areas. There is more abuse and coverups that occur in public schools, but nobody will touch that sacred cow. Or their friends in Hollywood.

Stats suggest Catholics, though most reported and known, is still lower than other secular or religious entities.
But being most reported it would seem the highest, thanks to the media.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Stats suggest Catholics, though most reported and known, is still lower than other secular or religious entities.
But being most reported it would seem the highest, thanks to the media.

There shouldn't be ANY cases of this in the Catholic Church. If the SBC is worth anything there shouldn't be any cases there either. If we were a virtuous people there would be none anywhere. Well, we aren't so virtuous, not as a citizenry, nor as Catholics. Surprised? You shouldn't be.