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He made no qualifier about gender. Make your point but don't put words in his mouth.

I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He ID's as male on his profile and, assuming he's not gay, anyone he would be getting involved with relationship-wise is going to be female. Plus, the subject in question is a female, and IMO a very stupid one at that - I say that both as someone who was in a relationship with a pathological liar, and as the sister of a pedophile who was recently released, into an extremely strict parole system where he almost requires permission from his PO to even breathe.
 
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I wasn't putting words in his mouth. He ID's as male on his profile and, assuming he's not gay, anyone he would be getting involved with relationship-wise is going to be female. Plus, the subject in question is a female, and IMO a very stupid one at that - I say that both as someone who was in a relationship with a pathological liar, and as the sister of a pedophile who was recently released, into an extremely strict parole system where he almost requires permission from his PO to even breathe.

Amen
 
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Considering the fact that you seem to think it is out of line for someone, particularly a woman (as you ID as being male) to be cautious about who she is getting involved with, maybe that's not such a bad thing. When you are in a serious relationship "none of your business" is not an acceptable answer to any question put to you about yourself. Neither is lying. You have to be completely truthful, put it all out there, even if they don't ask about it.
Did I say I'd refuse to answer questions? Trust and commitment are important parts of relationships. And nothing says trust like: "So, I suspect you are a sex offender."

I think it's horrendous that people are judging a woman who was unlucky in love or not as perceptive as some people... or (and this is a weird thing for the atheist to be saying on a Christian forum) maybe she was too willing to forgive and accept redemption and change in another person.
 
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I'm not suggesting you stalk them and know what they're doing 24/7, but bringing someone into your home, especially with your kids in it, shouldn't you at least know what they've been doing with their lives? The guy had multiple offences, one including being a sex offender, and she lets him in expecting what? That everything will go ok?

Okay, let's be clear then. Given that you've judged this woman as stupid and partially responsible for her own murder at the hands of a psychopath, tell me what exactly _is_ the appropriate due diligence?

Give me an example of yourself. You've me someone and they seem nice and compatible with you. You feel happy with them and feel like you could be together.
What do you do? How much do you tell them about what you do?
 
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Well I have nothing to hide, so I'd tell them what they want to know(if we're serious of course). But I'd never let a stranger live with me. Why would I. Especially if I have kids in the house. I would be insane to.
 
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Did I say I'd refuse to answer questions? Trust and commitment are important parts of relationships. And nothing says trust like: "So, I suspect you are a sex offender."

I think it's horrendous that people are judging a woman who was unlucky in love or not as perceptive as some people... or (and this is a weird thing for the atheist to be saying on a Christian forum) maybe she was too willing to forgive and accept redemption and change in another person.

I could hug you. Amen to your entire post! Thank you!
 
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I also like the part when he mentions the accepting redemption and forgiving, but unfortunately, this one didn't turn out to be the kind to change...
Yeah, this was a tragedy. That's the problem with trusting people: it makes you vulnerable.

Paranoid loners are probably safer, but w all have to work out where we draw the lines.

(Also, why do people keep describing "boyfriend of two months" as "a stranger".)
 
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Ya... To be fair, 2 months isn't nearly enough to decide to live together, if ypu ask me. That's why I say stranger. I don't think 2 months is enough to know someone.

Then there's the case of Ariel Castro. Bus driver and well known member of the neighborhood. Oh, and kidnapper and long-time jailer of three women.

But ya know, to be fair, a lifetime probably wasn't long enough for Castro's brothers to be aware of how depraved a person he was.

You are so aggravatingly smug and ignorant at the same time, the mind boggles.
 
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The problem, again, it's the mother being a bad parent, the prison system letting out these offenders, and the school not caring enough to send someone to check up on the kids. And of course, the actual criminal.
Wow, glad you remembered to add the actual criminal to that list.
 
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You know, my husband and I met in Iraq during our respective deployments there, and arranged to meet up again afterwards. We've essentially been living together since our first date. Now, granted, I didn't have any children at the time, but how foolish do I feel not having had an exhaustive background check done on him first? Boy is my face red. If only Pie had been there to show me the way!
 
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You know, my husband and I met in Iraqduring our respective deployments there, and arranged to meet up again afterwards. We've essentially been living together since our first date. Now, granted, I didn't have any children at the time, but how foolish do I feel not having had an exhaustive background check done on him first? Boy is my face red. If only Pie had been there to show me the way!

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You know, my husband and I met in Iraq during our respective deployments there, and arranged to meet up again afterwards. We've essentially been living together since our first date. Now, granted, I didn't have any children at the time, but how foolish do I feel not having had an exhaustive background check done on him first? Boy is my face red. If only Pie had been there to show me the way!
There may still come a time when you´ll regret it. ;)
 
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There may still come a time when you´ll regret it. ;)
And on that day I'll curse Pie for not warning me earlier.

But seriously, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall the first time Pie brings a girl home, sits down next to her on the couch, and suave as a cat, voice dripping with honey, asks her if she wants to fill in the criminal record release forms now or later?
 
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And on that day I'll curse Pie for not warning me earlier.

But seriously, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall the first time Pie brings a girl home, sits down next to her on the couch, and suave as a cat, voice dripping with honey, asks her if she wants to fill in the criminal record release forms now or later?

That will SO be Pie's fault for not checking for flies first.

Speaking of which, isn't Pie always on about big government? Who needs government surveillance when you can dupe the civs into doing it via scaremongering?
 
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But seriously, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall the first time Pie brings a girl home, sits down next to her on the couch, and suave as a cat, voice dripping with honey, asks her if she wants to fill in the criminal record release forms now or later?
That would make a hilarious movie scene!

Now, actually, I have the nagging suspicion that Pie is just so vocal about what all he would do if being in the shoes of a single mom simply because he isn´t and will never be a single mom. I think he´s laying out rules for ladies, not for himself.
 
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