Paranormal Activity Club

[izarya]

The "orbs" appear to be out of focus specks on the lens that are reflecting the flash back into the camera. Put a shroud over the lens to solve the problem.

The reason real ghosts are "seen" more when it is dark is that we are not looking with our fleshly eyes that much. We are then more aware of what our soul "sees" in the paranormal or spiritual realm.

However, spiritual manifestations of demons and angels can be "seen" at any time of the day. I recall "seeing" a seven-foot tall angel one afternoon.

When I was in the occult I "saw" three-foot tall imps in the house. They could go through doors and walls. I had to leave the house to get away from them. Later, as a Christian, I kicked them out by the authority of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

I generally agree, though the orbs were not visible in the frames taken directly before or after these. I generally do not accept orbs as evidence of paranormal activity, because they are too easily refuted as dust, moisture, bugs etc.

 

[Timuchin]

These whitish spots are perfect circles. You presume them to be spheres.

The beings I have run across took shapes similar to people or animals. Even ball lightning is not perfect spheres.

Which would seem more likely?

 

[izarya]

I'm not putting these forth as evidence of anything paranormal. I'm just documenting my activities. I have in my youth seen 'solid' orbs of light traveling down the street past my house, one even passed between a friend and I. Was it a 'perfect sphere', who knows?

 

[Nameless1]

Do angelic visitations qualify? I'd be interested in hearing of these as well.

 

[Timuchin]

Do angelic visitations qualify? I'd be interested in hearing of these as well.

They certainly do. Unfortunately there are angels that side with God and angels that side with Satan.

We are much more apt to spiritually "see" Satan's angels. They reflect Satan's character of pride and independence. They often will try to panic people to lower their barrier of integrity so one of them can slip in. They will offer power, significance and greed to people with a little catch -- drop your barrier of integrity through mind blanking or drugs. They will befriend friendless children. They will pretend to be a "Jesus" who can give them sexual pleasure. Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

God's angels reflect God's glory so you are much more apt to see the reflection of God in a supernatural occurance. If we need human help where there is no human, a disguised angel can be sent to help out. If we need "visual" reassurance that God is at work, an angel in white robes with white wings will manifest.

All of this "seeing" is done by our spirit. The Holy Spirit will get through to us however we will receive Him. We understand seeing, hearing, feeling and intuition, so He will use these analogs to tell us things. As we mature in the faith, we don't need the analogs -- except to tell others about what we received.

 

[izarya]

They certainly do. Unfortunately there are angels that side with God and angels that side with Satan.

We are much more apt to spiritually "see" Satan's angels. They reflect Satan's character of pride and independence. They often will try to panic people to lower their barrier of integrity so one of them can slip in. They will offer power, significance and greed to people with a little catch -- drop your barrier of integrity through mind blanking or drugs. They will befriend friendless children. They will pretend to be a "Jesus" who can give them sexual pleasure. Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

God's angels reflect God's glory so you are much more apt to see the reflection of God in a supernatural occurance. If we need human help where there is no human, a disguised angel can be sent to help out. If we need "visual" reassurance that God is at work, an angel in white robes with white wings will manifest.

All of this "seeing" is done by our spirit. The Holy Spirit will get through to us however we will receive Him. We understand seeing, hearing, feeling and intuition, so He will use these analogs to tell us things. As we mature in the faith, we don't need the analogs -- except to tell others about what we received.

This is where I disagree with most Christian 'believers.' They seem to see the world in a religious view of black and white, the world doesn't work that way. There are more than just angels and demons.

 

[izarya]

Anyhow, the name of our group is O.P.H.I.R. You'll be hearing more of us soon.

 

[Timuchin]

Are you suggesting a power encounter between my God and your gods? I chose to name my order after Saint Patrick because he called upon the one true God and defeated the head witch of Ireland at Tara. I have busted principalities. I have cast out the Kundalini demon. Your gods are probably already named on the self-deliverance pages on my website. See the Jungian self-deliverance page.

Jehovah loves you. His mercy is only postponed judgment; it doesn't mean He is weak or powerless. Please use the time you have to turn to Him. He wants to have fellowship with you.

The demons that are flattering you now with "godhood" will also escort you to hell if you don't repent.

 

[izarya]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm Christian for lack of a better term. All you guys ever do is assume and posture.

Egads.

 

[Timuchin]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm Christian for lack of a better term. All you guys ever do is assume and posture.

I have read your posts for over a year, including the ones in the Black Sheep Alliance forum. Before you deleted out the heretical ones. Including the ones where you were trying to convert people to Jungianism.

In Jungianism there is no difference between good and evil. That's what you were alluding to by saying Christians are wrong in assuming there is black and white. But if there is neither black nor white, neither good nor evil, then Jesus died for no purpose. Most of His teachings were wrong. Exorcism can't exist in that worldview.

In Jungianism the demons offer human saps the position of "Aeon" or demi-god if they will submit to sufficient demonization procedures. But they are not demi-gods in Jehovah's book of life. And in the end, Jehovah decides what is reality and what is not -- for eternity.

 

[Timuchin]

A good book on Jungianism is "The Aryan Christ: The Secret Life of Carl Jung" by Richard Noll. Carl Jung used the occult trick of automatic writing for a demon named Philemon to get most of the doctrines he is famous for. He had a special relationship with the pagan god Wotan. He was heavily involved in the religion of Mithra (sun) worship.

Those who studied his books of psychology were receiving doctrines of demons and didn't realize it. Thus they came under demonic influence. This is why the field of psychology has been so anti-Christian for so long.

 

[izarya]

I have read your posts for over a year, including the ones in the Black Sheep Alliance forum. Before you deleted out the heretical ones. Including the ones where you were trying to convert people to Jungianism.

Listen, I'm trying not to be crass, but these statements are outright lies. Firstly, I haven't deleted any 'heretical' postings from here myself (see my signature, I'm proud of my heretical-ness), I have had posts removed by staff against my wishes, but it hasn't been done by me. Secondly I have never tried to 'convert anyone to Jungianism,' I am not a 'Jungarian.'

In Jungianism there is no difference between good and evil. That's what you were alluding to by saying Christians are wrong in assuming there is black and white. But if there is neither black nor white, neither good nor evil, then Jesus died for no purpose. Most of His teachings were wrong. Exorcism can't exist in that worldview.

News Flash, that sounds like Kabbalah to me, much older than Jung. When I said Christians assuming everything is black and white, I was not alluding to anything of the sorts! I was flat out saying that I don't agree with that view. Most Christians try to force fit reality to conform to their cookie-cutter view of the world, everything is this or that, black or white.

In Jungianism the demons offer human saps the position of "Aeon" or demi-god if they will submit to sufficient demonization procedures. But they are not demi-gods in Jehovah's book of life. And in the end, Jehovah decides what is reality and what is not -- for eternity.

You seem to have made Carl Jung out to be more than a Psychologist-Philosopher. You seem to have made him out to be some sort of a religious figure or icon. He was a student of Mysticism and comparative religion, though some seem to want to make him more.

Now, back to reality. I have studied Jung's writings yes, contemplatively at best. I have also studied Freud's writings, does that make me a Freudian? Does that mean that I kneel at the alter of Sigmund?

Geez. Really.

 

[izarya]

Those who studied his books of psychology were receiving doctrines of demons and didn't realize it.

Yeah....

"It is the mark of an educated (or sound) mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

 

[izarya]

Back to our group, I'll be posting updates on what we are doing here if any one's interested. We have adopted a street in our city and we are working on securing a spot on the local radio station. Outside of that we have investigations coming up in a local tattoo shop, a private residence and maybe a major historical building in our area.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

This sounds like a blast Iz. Any chance you'd trade room and board for some type of service so it can come out there and hang with you all and do some of this? As it has lost its job due to "twilight zone" stuff (stuff that cannot be explained) ... it has nothing but time right now .....

 

[izarya]

This sounds like a blast Iz. Any chance you'd trade room and board for some type of service so it can come out there and hang with you all and do some of this? As it has lost its job due to "twilight zone" stuff (stuff that cannot be explained) ... it has nothing but time right now .....

Hey Moriah!!! I'm not sure what we'll be able to do, many of our upcoming events are out-of-state. I am going to attend an investigation at Rolling Hills Asylum later this month as part of a promotion for a new television show coming out in November for the Ghost Adventures Crew on the Travel Channel, I'll keep you posted.

 

[izarya]

OPHIR will be conducting free "regressions" in 09. One of our members is a Board Certified Psychologist and Hypnotherapist. We will also begin work on a documentary in the Spring.

 

[mandiegirl1]

I've never been certain whether I believe in the paranormal or not. I believe in a lot of other things (even though I'm 14 years old) like Unicorns, Fairies, and Peter Pan, but I'm not sure about ghosts. Maybe I do. I don't know.

 

[Timuchin]

You are promoting a book called "the path of the heretic."

On the back of the book, it reads
"In this work our focus is centered on Christianity and alternative or unorthodox Biblical interpretation, but in truth we believe that there's a common thread that weaves through all religions and faiths of the world. All peoples and cultures are trying to express the same spiritual truths within the limitations of their respective spoken languages further hindered by the inherent flaws in human thought and interpretation."

Since your "club" is in the Christian-only section of the forum, how do you reconcile the above statement with the doctrinal statement of this section?

 

[izarya]

You are promoting a book called "the path of the heretic."

On the back of the book, it reads
"In this work our focus is centered on Christianity and alternative or unorthodox Biblical interpretation, but in truth we believe that there's a common thread that weaves through all religions and faiths of the world. All peoples and cultures are trying to express the same spiritual truths within the limitations of their respective spoken languages further hindered by the inherent flaws in human thought and interpretation."

Since your "club" is in the Christian-only section of the forum, how do you reconcile the above statement with the doctrinal statement of this section?

Easy, Truth is Truth and can not limited to doctrinal interpretation or religious classification. I am not so thick headed that I can not see a true teaching just because of the culture of the person to whom the teaching or statement is attributed to.

"There are many moral precepts equally commanded and enforced in common by both creeds. It will not be rash to assert that most of the moral truths prescribed in the gospel are to be met with in the Buddhistic scriptures." Paul Ambroise Bigandet, Catholic Bishop of Ramatha

"He [Buddha] requires humility, disregard of worldly wealth, patience and resignation in adversity, love to enemies ... non-resistance to evil, confession of sins and conversion." Bishop Jean Paul Hilaire

I am Christian unapologetically, though I may not fit neatly into any of your ready-made cookie-cutter denominations or ideologies, and I thank God for it. Path of the Heretic is my book, I wrote it and subtitled it Liber Erratum, or Book of Errors sarcastically, knowing that my beliefs do not conform to mainstream Christianity, I sardonically called myself a heretic for you and your type.

For the most part, my book has admittedly assisted at least a few "pagans and heathens" to gain a new respect for the Bible itself in peeling away a few layers of the symbolism that is so often lost in the exoteric teachings of the general church, which is more than I can say for the religious fanatics who have cast not only themselves, but the Bible and our Lord himself in a negative light among non-believers. In-so-much that many non-Christians would not even consider the Bibles teaching as moral! As a result of the behavior of so many self-professed Christians on their own private crusade the people who need Christ the most are the farthest from Him, they would rather just cast the Bible aside rather than give it any form of consideration based on the behavior of those who claim to uphold it.

Mr. Timuchin has displayed this very same uber-"Christian" conduct in his ongoing and unprovoked attempt at assassinating my character and asserting to me what it is that I believe. I'm sure Jesus is proud to have such people representing his teachings and carrying his name and message to sinners here on earth.

Good Job!