Paranormal Activity Club

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Personally, I believe that human fear has a lot to do with it and night-time and darkness are a natural catalyst for human fear. If you build that fear up among a group of people through something such as an urban legend or ghost story.....
it can be explosive.

So are you saying that the ghosts feed off of this energy of fear and make themselves more apparent in the dark; OR, are you saying that the fear is greater because of night-time paranormal activity?

Paranoia in general, mixed with an inherent fear of the dark, feeds things yes. Fear is palpable to those who use it against others, animal can sense or smell it as well. As a Christian, I do not believe in departed human souls inhabiting the earth, but from my past occultic training I am thoroughly familiar with the world of "astral junk."

For the record, I also believe that "Satan" and "demonic forces" work within these same principals.

Elaborate, please -- and because you use them quotes, explain what to you bes "Satan" and "demonic forces".

 

[icedtea]

Yes, I wish these people who think this deluded would witness some of it.
The spirit world IS real.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Oh, they have ways of explaining away everything.
If it bes not bad enough to explain it away saying "hallucination" NOW they can even invoke "shared hallucination" to explain away having a witness present who experienced the same thing.

Nevermind we bes talking about something spontaneous which neither of us bes seeking or setting ourselves up for or ANYTHING (such as the lightbulb thing which happened early in the AM when first husband & this one bes dressing for work)

 

[tkoman]

First I would like to swear that I am NOT stalking Moriah! Second, I respect those posting here as being knowledgeable in this regard - working on a dream team here . . .

I am an ex-ghost hunter who did use some of the tools of the trade here and now have only used some basic recording tools in exorcism and exploration thereof. I am a mere student. but these are actually fascinating questions - the interplay of physical/spiritual, the differing manifestations of spirit in the world . . .

Using some of the recording tools I have have confirmed something in some cases that I have been involved with, and that something has led, at least, to helping convince others that this is real. Therefore, I applaud modern technology for doing something that we should otherwise be able to (discernment) but I try not to draw too many conclusions fro mthe evidence obtained.

Later, I wil actually drink my coffee before posting and it may make sense.

 

[.chrys.]

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[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

First I would like to swear that I am NOT stalking Moriah!

Aw its OK you can stalk this one if you please! It dont get enough of you IC.

 

[izarya]

Elaborate, please -- and because you use them quotes, explain what to you bes "Satan" and "demonic forces".

To me there be no demonic forces or Satan in the same sense as to most other people.

 

[icedtea]

Explain that. I know there are entities that are pure evil and hate humans, I've 'felt' them in my parents house when younger.
Unless you call them something other than demons?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

To me there be no demonic forces or Satan in the same sense as to most other people.

Elaborate, please.
What sees you as the sense most other ppl have? E.g. classical fallen angel mythos, etc.? (*guessing*)
What sees you as the sense YOU have? Something more like Qlippoth? (*guessing*)

For frack's sake speak, man!!! We have no patience for tooth extraction millimeters at a time.

 

[izarya]

Explain that. I know there are entities that are pure evil and hate humans, I've 'felt' them in my parents house when younger.
Unless you call them something other than demons?

The only thing that hates humans, is other humans. Many times in paranormal activity, the nasties we face are aspects of our own repressed darkside. Children are extremely susceptable and sensitive to negative energy. Even magnetic.

 

[.chrys.]

The only thing that hates humans, is other humans. Many times in paranormal activity, the nasties we face are aspects of our own repressed darkside. Children are extremely susceptable and sensitive to negative energy. Even magnetic.

Iz, out of curiosity, would you also say that the only thing that can love humans is other humans? I'm fascinated by this idea. Why, also, are children more susceptible to negative energy than adults? Adults seem to carry more hostility and anger than do children (at least, in my experience)--and children are much more resilient. They are more prone to fear, however.

 

[icedtea]

They are more sensitive, aware, and haven't yet been taught to disregard things.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

They also have not spent years making pearls from their pain, so each grain of sand (so to speak) feels like having every nerve jolted and skin flayed from one's entire body (emotionally) all at once. Also children reset to original default sensitivity setting for at least the first 6-7 years rather than to modified settings which only come after years of shattered trust and repeated assault on their personhood, self-esteem, emotions, feelings, sense of identity, etc. so each new trauma bes as excruciating as the first one until they bes literally FORCED to begin the slow process of killing themselves inside to endure whatever might come next.

 

[.chrys.]

If it is true that these "nasties" are the aspects of "repressed darksides", then I ask again, why are children more susceptible? Though they are uncalloused and more susceptible to outside forces, they do not harbor years of repressed darksides.

 

[izarya]

If it is true that these "nasties" are the aspects of "repressed darksides", then I ask again, why are children more susceptible? Though they are uncalloused and more susceptible to outside forces, they do not harbor years of repressed darksides.

Because imbalanced individuals tend to project these aspects of themselves outward. Many times the projection, being itself a form of energy, seeks sources of additional energy. Children have less barriers and are "helpless" so to say, making them more open to negativity or negative energy.

My Mother insisted that all of my children wear these black beaded onyx bracelets when they went into public while they were infants. She said children were vulnerable to "Bad Eyes." That is a Caribbean expression for envy, or intended harm on a psychological level.

Like when you invite someone to your new home and they look around and tell you how beautiful it is and how blessed you are yet internally they envy or even despise you for it. That is a "Bad Eye" the eye being the window to the soul.

Black absorbs color and my Mom believed that color was deeply associated with emotion and energy.

 

[Katie7725]

When I was younger I swear I would see the ghost of my grandfather in the barn that he died in. Has anyone else seen their family as ghost?

 

[izarya]

Iz, out of curiosity, would you also say that the only thing that can love humans is other humans?

From my personal experience, I would have to say yes. I have not noticed any indication that any spirit or angelical being "felt" or "feels" love in any capacity for human beings. Rather, if and when they are present with you it is because of Divine Injunction, and not a choice of theirs.
I believe that emotion is a human quality and that even God does not experience "love" in the same capacity as humans do. But He can and does seek to experience it THROUGH humans.

 

[.chrys.]

*absorbing and thinking*

Thanks for these answers. I'll get back with you on this in a while!

 

[.chrys.]

From my personal experience, I would have to say yes. I have not noticed any indication that any spirit or angelical being "felt" or "feels" love in any capacity for human beings. Rather, if and when they are present with you it is because of Divine Injunction, and not a choice of theirs.
I believe that emotion is a human quality and that even God does not experience "love" in the same capacity as humans do. But He can and does seek to experience it THROUGH humans.

What then, is this seeking that G-d does? What is the motivation behind seeking to experience the human capacity for love, is this not emotion in and of itself?

I'm having an extreme difficulty in trying to put into words the things I'm thinking on this.