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Adam and Christ were alike in that both entered the world without sin as ALL men do. The difference is Adam succumbed to temptation and sinned while Christ did not. Sinning therefore is a matter of choice and not how one was passively born with sin or sin nature. Yet if man is born with original sin and a sin nature and Christ was not, then Christ was not "made like unto His brethren", not "made in the likeness of men" and was not tempted in all points as man is. The bible would not be speaking truth is saying Christ, in all respects, was human with all human attributes. So either Christ was born a sinner and a sin nature or His humanity must be denied.
the simple answer to this would be that Christ was not born in adam but was conceived by the Spirit of God.
It is not possible for one to become a sinner at both places. If one becomes a sinner at conception then he cannot become a sinner at birth for he already is a sinner. So the contradiction continues. Furthermore Joh said sin is transgression of the law. What sin was committed at conception or birth to make one a sinner? Since there is not sin DNA or sin is not a substance as bacteria that is passed from one to another or sin is just not an idea that is passed one from another then a transgression must have occurred at conception or birth for sin to take place. Did the newly conceived/born lie? Steal? Murder?
As far as the NIV, I was pointing not the difference between being "born a sinner" per the NIV and "born in sin". The two are NOT the same. You used the term "born is sin" and that phrase does NOT necessitate one is born a sinner. Again, the world is full of sin and we were all born into that sinful environment but that does not make us born sinners.
Jesus was born human, born of a human woman and therefore was human is ALL respects and attributes. Therefore for the bible to be true that Christ was made in the likenesses of men, made in the likeness of His brethren then He must have been born with original sin and a sin nature if os/sin nature is true.
man's sin nature has little to do with bacteria or DNA and more to do with man's standing before God and his corrupt fallen nature.
it seems you would, in fact, hold to heretical position that the LORD's Holy nature would be in subjection to man's fallen nature in that Jesus being born of God would be overcome by the sin nature of mary.
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