"On White Privilege"

[rturner76]

That's nuts. Why would you want equality when you have better than equality; you have the advantage, you have privilege in education and employment. Not only is there room for minorities, people are forced to make room by law. You're not dealing with reality, you just seem to be in love with the idea of being a victim. And it's very harmful to keep spreading your false narrative, you just give the races a reason to resent each other.

If minorities have the advantage in employment, how is it that 1% of Fortune 500 companies are minorities. 5 out of the 500 are non white. How is it that that minorities have an advantage in education when standardized testing is still used in college entrance exams. Standardized testing has been proven to give white students an advantage. It is very typical for people to blame the victims of racism for being a victim of racism. "If they would only try harder" It doesn't matter how good of a card player you are if the deck is stacked against you.

 

[Deviant Writer]

But its not the point I was responding to.

Whatever.

Actually, it does not.

Sorry, I forgot you backpedaled.

Which is entirely not. The. Point. I was responding to your insinuation that people accused Oblabla of being a Muslim based only on his race. Do I really have to explain this to you repeatedly??

Do I have to keep explaining to you that I am explicitly saying that it isn't just racism. It's ALSO ignorance. I've said that at least five times now. I'm done repeating myself.

Then address that in those threads.

Well I brought it up because I didn't think for one second that your view had changed.

Here, in this thread I was addressing your insinuation that Oblabla was accused of being a Muslim based on his race alone. (Explaining it yet again.)

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Already answered.

Which has always been my view.

No it hasn't. In the previous thread, another conservative made a comment about Obama being a Muslim, and you said "We've already known this for some time." Again you explicitly say that the man's a Muslim in that thread, and your only excuse is "well...respond to it in that thread."

Some supported Carson. Others support Trump. Hey, that's how it works with elections. Didn't anyone tell you that? To try to make "racial hay" out of is ridiculous, but par for the course for a progressive. And you haven't explained how people like Allen West, Tim Scott, Bobby Jindal or Nikki Hayley were elected if raaaacism.

I asked if those people had other Republicans running with them. You asked why that would matter, and I said choice matters.

 

[rturner76]

This thread is pure silliness, misconceptions, and false senses of victimhood. Sad!

True, many whites do see themselves as some kind of victim when things like white privilege are pointed out. They plug their ears and close their eyes as if that will change the truth. They adopt a mantra of "the poor white man is being picked on." When it is a system that needs to be changed.Every day white people have no idea that this system is even in place so it gets perpetuated. When someone gives them pause to look at the system they feel "picked on" because they never knew what they were a part of.

 

[Chesterton]

If minorities have the advantage in employment, how is it that 1% of Fortune 500 companies are minorities. 5 out of the 500 are non white. How is it that that minorities have an advantage in education when standardized testing is still used in college entrance exams. Standardized testing has been proven to give white students an advantage. It is very typical for people to blame the victims of racism for being a victim of racism. "If they would only try harder" It doesn't matter how good of a card player you are if the deck is stacked against you.

How is it that the NBA is 23% white?

 

[nightflight]

True, many whites do see themselves as some kind of victim when things like white privilege are pointed out. They plug their ears and close their eyes as if that will change the truth. They adopt a mantra of "the poor white man is being picked on." When it is a system that needs to be changed.Every day white people have no idea that this system is even in place so it gets perpetuated. When someone gives them pause to look at the system they feel "picked on" because they never knew what they were a part of.

There is no white privilege.

 

[nightflight]

Whatever.

I'll take that as concession.

Sorry, I forgot you backpedaled.

No, I kept to the topic.

Do I have to keep explaining to you that I am explicitly saying that it isn't just racism. It's ALSO ignorance. I've said that at least five times now. I'm done repeating myself.

While initially you insinuated it was race. 'Memba? "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." Later you added "ignorance". Later.

Well I brought it up because I didn't think for one second that your view had changed.

Which is immaterial to my response to YOUR insinuation you made.

Already answered.

Yes, you later qualified your earlier insinuation.

No it hasn't. In the previous thread, another conservative made a comment about Obama being a Muslim, and you said "We've already known this for some time." Again you explicitly say that the man's a Muslim in that thread, and your only excuse is "well...respond to it in that thread."

Which is immaterial, since my discussion with you concerned your insinuation that Obama was accused of being a Muslim simply because he is black. What's this, the ninth time I've had to remind you?

I asked if those people had other Republicans running with them. You asked why that would matter, and I said choice matters.

And the voters chose the "persons of color". Why is this a problem?

 

[nightflight]

Whatever.

I'll take that as concession.

Sorry, I forgot you backpedaled.

No, I kept to the topic.

Do I have to keep explaining to you that I am explicitly saying that it isn't just racism. It's ALSO ignorance. I've said that at least five times now. I'm done repeating myself.

While initially you insinuated it was race. 'Memba? "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." Later you added "ignorance". Later.

Well I brought it up because I didn't think for one second that your view had changed.

Which is immaterial to my response to YOUR insinuation you made.

Already answered.

Yes, you later qualified your earlier insinuation.

No it hasn't. In the previous thread, another conservative made a comment about Obama being a Muslim, and you said "We've already known this for some time." Again you explicitly say that the man's a Muslim in that thread, and your only excuse is "well...respond to it in that thread."

Which is immaterial, since my discussion with you concerned your insinuation that Obama was accused of being a Muslim simply because he is black. What's this, the ninth time I've had to remind you?

I asked if those people had other Republicans running with them. You asked why that would matter, and I said choice matters.

And the voters chose the "persons of color". Why is this a problem?

 

[JustOneWay]

There is no white privilege.

that is what most privileged white people say....

 

[nightflight]

that is what most privileged white people say....

Getting in some virtue signaling before the weekend, huh?

 

[JustOneWay]

Getting in some virtue signaling before the weekend, huh?

Just typing the truth. sorry if you missed it.

 

[nightflight]

Just typing the truth. sorry if you missed it.

If you say so.

 

[JustOneWay]

If you say so.

I say so

 

[Deviant Writer]

I'll take that as concession.

It isn't. Anymore than your backpedaling is a concession that you assume Obama is a Christian as he says he is.

No, I kept to the topic.

No you backpedaled. You said he's a Muslim in a previous thread and that "you don't know" in this thread. You can call it "keeping to the topic" but it's backpedaling. That's cool. It's better that you are backpedaling than forward-pedaling by dialing up the accusations.

While initially you insinuated it was race. 'Memba? "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." Later you added "ignorance". Later.

It's both. I've said that countless times now. Sorry if you aren't listening. That I mentioned one before the other doesn't matter.

Which is immaterial to my response to YOUR insinuation you made.

Whatever you think I was insinuating doesn't matter at this point, because I explicitly said it's both racism and ignorance. Can't. Keep. Telling. You.

Which is immaterial, since my discussion with you concerned your insinuation that Obama was accused of being a Muslim simply because he is black. What's this, the ninth time I've had to remind you?

You need to remind yourself of the fact that I said it's both racism and ignorance. Doesn't matter that I mentioned one before the other.

Why is this a problem?

I didn't say it was.

 

[nightflight]

It isn't. Anymore than your backpedaling is a concession that you assume Obama is a Christian as he says he is.

If you call sticking to the topic backpedaling, then yeah I guess.

No you backpedaled. You said he's a Muslim in a previous thread and that "you don't know" in this thread. You can call it "keeping to the topic" but it's backpedaling. That's cool. It's better that you are backpedaling than forward-pedaling by dialing up the accusations.

Which is immaterial, since this discussion was about YOUR ASSERTION that people suspect Obama of being a Muslim solely on his race. Again (yes again) you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." I responded to that. To that. To that.

It's both. I've said that countless times now. Sorry if you aren't listening. That I mentioned one before the other doesn't matter.

Yes, after I challenged your insinuation. This isn't difficult, you just have to go to page 54 and see your comment where you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt."

Whatever you think I was insinuating doesn't matter at this point, because I explicitly said it's both racism and ignorance. Can't. Keep. Telling. You.

Yeah, you said so after I challenged your assertion.

You need to remind yourself of the fact that I said it's both racism and ignorance. Doesn't matter that I mentioned one before the other.

Well, yeah, it does, because that is what I initially responded to. It was later you added ignorance in order to save face.

Please let me know if I can inform you any further on this.

 

[Deviant Writer]

If you call sticking to the topic backpedaling, then yeah I guess.

Well I call it backpedaling when you make an assertion in one thread and say "I don't know" in another. Which is what you did.

Which is immaterial, since this discussion was about YOUR ASSERTION that people suspect Obama of being a Muslim solely on his race. Again (yes again) you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." I responded to that. To that. To that.

And you did a poor job of that, talking about his "Muslim background" that wasn't. So what's left? Him being black and a liberal.

Yes, after I challenged your insinuation. This isn't difficult, you just have to go to page 54 and see your comment where you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt."

And you did a poor job of it, saying it was "more likely" that he would be a Muslim because of his Muslim background. But as I've already proved, it's a massive crock. He wasn't raised a Muslim.

Yeah, you said so after I challenged your assertion.

And for the third time, you did a terrible job of that. You asserted that he was a Muslim, in a previous thread, which you still haven't proved. Then you asserted that it would be more likely that he's a Muslim based on his background. Also wrong.

Well, yeah, it does, because that is what I initially responded to. It was later you added ignorance in order to save face.

I added ignorance because it IS ignorance that would make one call Obama a Muslim. Saving face is you accusing Obama of being a Muslim in a previous thread and saying "I don't know" in this one, all while excusing your lack of evidence by saying "Well that claim was in a different thread."

Please let me know if I can inform you any further on this.

No, you definitely can't.

 

[Chesterton]

I'm not saying they should do that. I'm saying that they won't.

I'm conservative and I voted for a black guy for president. I'll bet the person would be a good trivia question to try and guess without Googling. His name wasn't Obama, Cain or Jackson.

 

[nightflight]

Well I call it backpedaling when you make an assertion in one thread and say "I don't know" in another. Which is what you did.

Which is immaterial to the discussion here. If I'm living in your head or something that's something you have to deal with.

And you did a poor job of that, talking about his "Muslim background" that wasn't. So what's left? Him being black and a liberal.

Its more of a Muslim background than any "white" candidate I know of. Which was your whole point, that a white person wouldn't be accused of being a Muslim like Obama was. My point was that if Obama had no Islam in his background the accusation wouldn't have even been brought up; no one would think to bring it up. There would be no there there. You made the insinuation that its race alone that led to accusations of Obama being a Muslim. You did it on page 54, post 1078. You said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." I responded to THAT. And what, is this about the eleventieth time I've pointed this out?

And you did a poor job of it, saying it was "more likely" that he would be a Muslim because of his Muslim background. But as I've already proved, it's a massive crock. He wasn't raised a Muslim.

No, I was saying it would be more likely (likely at all rather) that Obama would be suspected of being a Muslim for having Islam in his background. I wasn't saying in this discussion that Obama is or isn't a Muslim. You're really struggling with this aren't you?

And for the third time, you did a terrible job of that. You asserted that he was a Muslim, in a previous thread, which you still haven't proved. Then you asserted that it would be more likely that he's a Muslim based on his background. Also wrong.

Then go to that thread and challenge it. In this thread, starting on page 54, I responded to your assertion that it was Obama's race alone that would lead people to accuse him of being a Muslim. I responded to that. That. That. Why is this so hard for you?

I added ignorance because it IS ignorance that would make one call Obama a Muslim. Saving face is you accusing Obama of being a Muslim in a previous thread and saying "I don't know" in this one, all while excusing your lack of evidence by saying "Well that claim was in a different thread."

That's all good, but you initially claimed that Obama's race alone led to accusations of being a Muslim. Whatever I think or don't think of Obama is immaterial to this discussion. You made a claim about race and politics. You said that black Obama is accused of being a Muslim because he's black, and that a white candidate wouldn't have that accusation thrown at him. My point, my whole point was that there would be no accusation of Obama being a Muslim if he didn't have some Islam in his background. It wouldn't have even come up because no one would think of it!

No, you definitely can't.

Yes we can agree on that.

 

[nightflight]

I'm conservative and I voted for a black guy for president. I'll bet the person would be a good trivia question to try and guess without Googling. His name wasn't Obama, Cain or Jackson.

Keyes.

 

[JustOneWay]

If you call sticking to the topic backpedaling, then yeah I guess.



Which is immaterial, since this discussion was about YOUR ASSERTION that people suspect Obama of being a Muslim solely on his race. Again (yes again) you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt." I responded to that. To that. To that.



Yes, after I challenged your insinuation. This isn't difficult, you just have to go to page 54 and see your comment where you said, "A white guy can become elected president without anyone thinking he's secretly a Muslim. Benefit of the doubt."



Yeah, you said so after I challenged your assertion.



Well, yeah, it does, because that is what I initially responded to. It was later you added ignorance in order to save face.

Please let me know if I can inform you any further on this.

Backpeddling, as a word, has nothing to do with changing the topic. Now you know.

 

[nightflight]

Backpeddling, as a word, has nothing to do with changing the topic. Now you know.

Right. I wasn't the one accusing someone else of backpeddling. The term was misapplied to me, thanks for pointing this out.