New series by Aron Ra: Why there was no Noachian Flood

[Aman777]

He did not confirm that verse. You need to show that the fact that we are evolved beings somehow implies a "falling away".

Your idea that descent with modification within kinds, is true but I hate your use of the nasty word evolution to describe this process. Please correct your thinking. We are NOT evolved beings but instead, are the descendants, within the Human and prehistoric kind, of the common ancestor of Humans, Adam.

 

[Aman777]

I don't think he's getting the sarcasm.

Please read this verse and then tell us what it is saying, in your opinion:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God CREATED the heaven and the earth.

If you don't believe this verse, chances are that you will reject the rest of God's Truth in the Bible. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Not really.

After we go over why we know that there was no Noah's Ark I would be glad to.

Please, please tell me. I've waited on something from you for a long time. Try out your theory that "there is no Noah's Ark" on me. I will be happy to refute it for you so you can tell everyone another way to prove it wrong.

 

[Aman777]

It appears that all you can claim is that you believe it was a local flood because if you try hard enough the story can be interpreted that way. That's okay with me. I need to ask a few more questions. Do you believe that Noah's family were the only humans left after the flood?

Of course they were, since all of them were direct descendants of Adam, the first Human...AND it was NOT a local flood since the mountains were covered when the flood reached 15 cubits (22.5 feet) in depth Gen 7:20 on Adam's flat Earth. Looks to me like you're trying to line up a Christian for criticism. I think I will stick around.

 

[Aman777]

Not yet. Because it is not a "falling away." Most of those denominations I mentioned have "denied the Bible" all the way back to their inception in the earliest centuries of the Christian era.

Is denying the Bible "denying the power thereof" as this verse shows:

2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

BTW, We live TODAY at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating sinners in His Image which is Spiritually in Christ. This means that it has been the LAST Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven since Jesus made the beasts of the Earth and birds and Adam named them. Gen 2:19 Genesis 1:28-31 is prophecy of events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

 

[Aman777]

Then what should we make of your claim that the chart you posted shows chimps are half as intelligent as humans?

In the encephalization chart you are correct....BUT no amount of magical time and zillions of mutations can produce a single Human, since Human intelligence MUST be INHERITED from Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humankind.

 

[Aman777]

Umm, are you not aware of the fact that animals are put down for attacking humans?

Sure but the monetary damage falls upon the Human owner since the dumb animal doesn't have enough intelligence to understand the charges against it.

 

[Aman777]

I've already refuted your claim about intelligence by showing at least two different articles showing how it is possible for intelligence to evolve. The fact that you reject that is due to your personal bias against anything that disagrees with your fanciful claims.

False. I don't accept "circular reasoning" by mortal beings. It's possible to prove ANYthing with such thinking since all you have to do is find another Human who agrees with you. Tell us the process by which magic implants the superior intelligence of God, into Apes. You cannot since such a concept is ridiculous. Were you forced to believe in godless Evolism as a child?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your idea that descent with modification within kinds, is true but I hate your use of the nasty word evolution to describe this process. Please correct your thinking. We are NOT evolved beings but instead, are the descendants, within the Human and prehistoric kind, of the common ancestor of Humans, Adam.

Yes, you hate reality. We all know that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please, please tell me. I've waited on something from you for a long time. Try out your theory that "there is no Noah's Ark" on me. I will be happy to refute it for you so you can tell everyone another way to prove it wrong.

Sorry, you already failed. You do not know how science works. You do not understand the Bible either. You can't refute anything.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In the encephalization chart you are correct....BUT no amount of magical time and zillions of mutations can produce a single Human, since Human intelligence MUST be INHERITED from Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humankind.

When you make claims such as this and then cannot support them at all you refute yourself.

 

[Speedwell]

Is denying the Bible "denying the power thereof" as this verse shows:

2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

BTW, We live TODAY at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating sinners in His Image which is Spiritually in Christ. This means that it has been the LAST Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven since Jesus made the beasts of the Earth and birds and Adam named them. Gen 2:19 Genesis 1:28-31 is prophecy of events which happen AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

Nothing in that passage tells me that denying the unscholarly and theologically unsatisfactory interpretation of scripture of some Protestant sect is "denying the power thereof."

 

[Aman777]

According to Genesis 3:22 Adam was not created with "intelligence" but gained it when he and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Could you please make up your mind about what you're trying to claim?

The reason is that Adam was made perfect, and lived with Jesus for Billions of years from BEFORE the big bang, until the present 6th Day. Adam/mankind will regain our perfect bodies just before the Rapture. Adam knew NO death until he disobeyed since man was made to live forever as Christians do in Heaven.

*** The Sons of God mated with the prehistoric beings BEFORE the Flood, not after.

Actually, the sons of God on Adam's Earth BEFORE the flood mated with Humans... AND ALSO AFTER THAT on Planet Earth. Here's the verse:

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, (Heb-Adam) and they bare children to them,

Prehistoric people changing into modern Humans, happens only one time per Earth. Noah's grandsons, like Cain on Adam's Earth, had NO other Human women to marry. They married and produced children with the prehistoric women who had been on Planet Earth for Millions of years BEFORE the Ark arrived. They were THEIR kind or the kind which God the Trinity commanded to come forth from Water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:20 They also left their bones all over our planet.

*** Again, the Sons of God mated with the prehistoric beings BEFORE the Flood, not after. You need to at least read the Bible before you start twisting it to support your fantasies.

Why don't you try to explain the "and also after that"? Tell us what it means IF it means something else. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Nothing in that passage tells me that denying the unscholarly and theologically unsatisfactory interpretation of scripture of some Protestant sect is "denying the power thereof."

Your denial was that there was no Creator. Want to try again?

 

[Aman777]

I don't think he's getting the sarcasm.

He's trying to get me to say something about his denomination, so he and other people who don't like Christians, have something to whine about to the censors. When you can't refute someone's view, it's all you have left. Amen?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your denial was that there was no Creator. Want to try again?

Nope, he denied your extremely weird interpretation of the Bible.

You are not on a "mission from God", that was the Blues Brothers.

 

[Speedwell]

Your denial was that there was no Creator. Want to try again?

That's a lie. I have never denied the Creator. All that I deny--along with a majority of the world's Christians, now and throughout the past--is your interpretation of the Bible.

 

[Aman777]

That's a lie. I have never denied the Creator. All that I deny--along with a majority of the world's Christians, now and throughout the past--is your interpretation of the Bible.

Be more specific. Chapter and verse will do. Show me my errors IF you can. I promise to show you:

That Adam was made the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-9
That we live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4
That today's Humans are a combination of Humans AND prehistoric people. Gen 6:4

Can you refute me or should I ask if you have any support for your views? God Bless

 

[Aman777]

That's a lie. I have never denied the Creator. All that I deny--along with a majority of the world's Christians, now and throughout the past--is your interpretation of the Bible.

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>>>>>>>>>>Aman:>>Blasphemy. I predict you will claim that you were always a Creationist....at the Judgment. God Bless you

Speedwell:>.I don't know; I would be ashamed to stand before Christ and tell Him I was a creationist.<<<<<<<<

If not a creationist, what are you?

 

[Speedwell]

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>>>>>>>>>>Aman:>>Blasphemy. I predict you will claim that you were always a Creationist....at the Judgment. God Bless you

Speedwell:>.I don't know; I would be ashamed to stand before Christ and tell Him I was a creationist.<<<<<<<<

If not a creationist, what are you?

I am an Anglican. My beliefs are succinctly set forth in the Nicene Creed, which I swear to in public at least weekly. I believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, but in order to be a creationist I would have to believe that it is also the literal, inerrant, perspicuous and self-interpreting product of Plenary Verbal Inspiration. I would have to believe Sola Scriptura, which is anathema to me. In short, I would have to be a conservative fundamentalist Evangelical Protestant, which I would be embarrassed to have to confess to Christ.