Nearly 80% of Americans Say Biden Won

[Occams Barber]

According to an Ipsos Reuters poll of 1,363 Americans, the vast majority believe Biden won the presidential election. The poll was conducted between Saturday afternoon and Tuesday.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 80% of Americans, including more than half of Republicans, recognize President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election after most media organizations called the race for the Democrat based on his leads in critical battleground states, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll...

The Reuters/Ipsos national opinion survey, which ran from Saturday afternoon to Tuesday, found that 79% of U.S. adults believe Biden won the White House. Another 13% said the election has not yet been decided, 3% said Trump won and 5% said they do not know.

The results were somewhat split along party lines: about six in 10 Republicans and almost every Democrat said Biden won...

It (the poll) showed that 70% of Americans, including 83% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans, trust their local election officials to "do their job honestly."

The poll also found that 72% think the loser of the election must concede defeat, and 60% think there will be a peaceful transition of power when Trump's term ends in January.​

Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll

OB

 

[GraceBro]

Like most Americans, I have never seen a pollster, much less asked my opinion about the election.

 

[muichimotsu]

Like most Americans, I have never seen a pollster, much less asked my opinion about the election.

Not all polls are done in person, especially these days. And it's not even a pandemic concern, but just that electronic methods are more efficient for spread, like sites that give you points for surveys related to political stuff. Been a gig I've used for a few years to make decent money, though it's slid down a bit from one major source (unless I reached a cap, which would be about $500 in a year, for tax purposes)

 

[Occams Barber]

Like most Americans, I have never seen a pollster, much less asked my opinion about the election.

That isn't surprising. A poll is not a referendum where everyone gets asked their opinion.

It uses statistical sampling methodology to get the opinion of a representative sample of a population. The confidence interval on this poll was +/- 5% or between 75% and 85% opinion that Biden won.

OB

 

[Occams Barber]

Not all polls are done in person, especially these days. And it's not even a pandemic concern, but just that electronic methods are more efficient for spread, like sites that give you points for surveys related to political stuff. Been a gig I've used for a few years to make decent money, though it's slid down a bit from one major source (unless I reached a cap, which would be about $500 in a year, for tax purposes)

Recorded voice polling is also being used as a workaround for the 'shy voter' problem. The idea is that participants, who may be reluctant to answer questions honestly with a human pollster, may be less inhibited by a recorded voice.

The other methodology being tried is indirect questioning. Instead of asking "What do you think?" a pollster might ask for your opinion on what your neighbours/social group thinks. A response to this type of indirect question is seen as a reflection of the participant's opinion.

OB

 

[essentialsaltes]

Did these poll respondents show ID? I think these results are fraudulent.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

So another name for this thread could be "80% of Americans are right"

 

[Occams Barber]

So another name for this thread could be "80% of Americans are right"

I'm going to be a little more cautious (or less courageous?)

"80% of Americans believe they are right"

OB

 

[lasthero]

So another name for this thread could be "80% of Americans are right"

A surprisingly rare thing, actually.

 

[cow451]

According to an Ipsos Reuters poll of 1,363 Americans, the vast majority believe Biden won the presidential election. The poll was conducted between Saturday afternoon and Tuesday.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly 80% of Americans, including more than half of Republicans, recognize President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election after most media organizations called the race for the Democrat based on his leads in critical battleground states, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll...

The Reuters/Ipsos national opinion survey, which ran from Saturday afternoon to Tuesday, found that 79% of U.S. adults believe Biden won the White House. Another 13% said the election has not yet been decided, 3% said Trump won and 5% said they do not know.

The results were somewhat split along party lines: about six in 10 Republicans and almost every Democrat said Biden won...

It (the poll) showed that 70% of Americans, including 83% of Democrats and 59% of Republicans, trust their local election officials to "do their job honestly."

The poll also found that 72% think the loser of the election must concede defeat, and 60% think there will be a peaceful transition of power when Trump's term ends in January.​

Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll

OB

Comrades! Poll dancer wrong again. Presidential Trump needs help. Send money now!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I'm going to be a little more cautious (or less courageous?)

"80% of Americans believe they are right"

OB

Let's just call it for what it is...unless Trump's legal team has evidence of voter fraud, so widespread, that it amounts to tens of thousands of votes in all 4 of the key states that I assume he's trying to contest, he hasn't got a leg to stand on and this legal fight is just a vanity project for him at this point.


Most people here on CF know I've been quite critical of the left over the past few months (and will likely continue to be after Biden takes office and presumably let's non-moderates steer him around in whatever direction they see fit), to the point where I've had people call me alt-right and far-right...

But I still ended up caving and voting for Biden instead of my usual libertarian "protest vote".

There's good reason for that.

Even if I agree a little more with Trump than Biden on certain economic issues and a few other social issues (I despise cancel culture and political correctness, I dislike the semantically overloaded movements like BLM and Antifa, and "woke-ness" is a cancer in our society), that doesn't mean I want a president who constantly spouts off at the mouth on social media, or turns on people who were loyal to him at the drop of a hat...nor do I want a president who picks and chooses scientific/medical advisors based on which one will make him more popular with his base during a time of pandemic.

Even though I'm pro-gun, in favor of limited government, and hate cancel culture/wokeness, I'd rather spend the next four years providing spirited (but consistent & honest) debate against the Biden administration than watching a president claim that every organization that offers even the most mild criticism is "the enemy of the American people".

Perfect example, Trump's die-hard loyalists have started plugging "Newsmax" because they think Fox News "betrayed" him by calling the election for Biden...and because Newsmax is still offering some kind of far-fetched fantasy about how "Trump can still win"

No mainstream media outlet has been as "Trump-friendly" as Fox News...the moment they showed a shred of pragmatism with the election results, now they're being labelled as "sell outs" by Trump fan-boys.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Lets for the sake of argument say there really was voter fraud, and everything is just as it is now, the people are told Biden won, and we're told all Trump is doing is throwing a needless fit.

Now what would we expect the people to think? 80% sounds about right to me, but it means nothing given the circumstances.

They, and rightfully so, go by the info the authorities give them and do there best to sort out what a biased medea reports.

 

[cow451]

Lets for the sake of argument say there really was voter fraud, and everything is just as it is now, the people are told Biden won, and we're told all Trump is doing is throwing a needless fit.

Now what would we expect the people to think? 80% sounds about right to me, but it means nothing given the circumstances.

They, and rightfully so, go by the info the authorities give them and do there best to sort out what a biased medea reports.

I wonder who that Pennsylvania postal worker voted for?

 

[Sketcher]

Did fraud happen in some places? I suspect so. Was it enough fraud to turn any states? We shall see.

I'll accept the certified results, when they are certified. I will let the legal process bear out the results.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I wonder who that Pennsylvania postal worker voted for?

Whst Pennsylvania postal worker?

 

[cow451]

Whst Pennsylvania postal worker?

The one that told the world about how he had been instructed to alter dates on mail ballots.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The one that told the world about how he had been instructed to alter dates on mail ballots.

I must have missed that.

 

[Occams Barber]

Lets for the sake of argument say there really was voter fraud, and everything is just as it is now, the people are told Biden won, and we're told all Trump is doing is throwing a needless fit.

Now what would we expect the people to think? 80% sounds about right to me, but it means nothing given the circumstances.

They, and rightfully so, go by the info the authorities give them and do there best to sort out what a biased medea reports.

You're right - an 80% belief that there is no fraud doesn't prove that there is no fraud.

What it does show is that a significant proportion (59%) of Republican voters do not appear to be accepting Trump's claims of gross election manipulation.

OB

NB
This is what a really biased Medea looks like.

OB

 

[Kenny'sID]

What it does show is that a significant proportion (59%) of Republican voters do not appear to be accepting Trump's claims of gross election manipulation.

Again, given the circumstances ...sounds about right.

 

[SarahsKnight]

.... NM, better dial that one back.