My point is you are imposing a definition on the word 'last'
I am not. I know what LAST means. It means last
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My point is you are imposing a definition on the word 'last'
Hmmm, to seeing the word resurrection anywhere in that passage. I'll have to go with no. Even the word there for gathering means to assemble together, meanwhile Paul tells us the rapture is a forceful snatching.
So when is the LAST trumpet to be blown? Its a MYSTERY!
1COR.15 [50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.[51] Behold, I SHEW YOU A MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
MYSTERY—last trumpet {it shall sound} – The LAST one! – No more trumpets to be blown – Its the LAST trumpet!
REVELATION 8 [1] And when he had opened THE SEVENTH SEAL, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. [2] And I saw the SEVEN ANGELS which stood before God; and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS.
Seventh angel has a trumpet. It shall sound. Its also the LAST one to be heard. Its also AFTER the trib period
REVELATION 10 [6] And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: [7] But in the days of the voice of THE SEVENTH ANGEL, when he shall begin to sound, THE MYSTERY OF GOD SHOULD BE FINISHED, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
MYSTERY SOLVED! The seventh angel begins to sound. This is the LAST trumpet you find being blown in the bible
REVELATION 16 [17] And the SEVENTH ANGEL poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, IT IS DONE.
REVELATION 11 [14] The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. [15]And THE SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
As i said before, we do not flit off to heaven at the 1Cor.15 event. As the seventh angel sounds the trumpet the kingdoms of this world are to become the kingdoms of the Lord and thats where the Lord will bring us after meeting Him in the air. His kingdom
Hello WailingWall.You sure do have trouble adding. Speakin bout adding
MATT.12 [39] But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:[40] For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.
The above scripture says as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whales belly, and so shall Jesus be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. Does good Friday afternoon till (easter) Sunday morning equal 3 days and 3 nights? What do you Rapturist believe
So when is the LAST trumpet to be blown? Its a MYSTERY!
1COR.15 [50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.[51] Behold, I SHEW YOU A MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: FOR THE TRUMPET SHALL SOUND, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
As i said before, we do not flit off to heaven at the 1Cor.15 event. As the seventh angel sounds the trumpet the kingdoms of this world are to become the kingdoms of the Lord and thats where the Lord will bring us after meeting Him in the air. His kingdom
A bunch of hogwash, we see them speaking about the throne room in the passages in Rev. 19, I didn't post them but they are there.REVELATION 19 [13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. [14] And the armies which were in HEAVEN followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
You apparently do not understandYou Rapturist sure do have troubles with adding. The Last Trumpet is the last trumpet
A bunch of hogwash, we see them speaking about the throne room in the passages in Rev. 19, I didn't post them but they are there.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife (Church) hath made herself ready.
A bunch of hogwash, we see them speaking about the throne room in the passages in Rev. 19, I didn't post them but they are there.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife (Church) hath made herself ready.
8 And to her (Church) was granted that she (Church) should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints (Remember this).
Christ Bride is the Church.......JEREMIAH 3 [11] And the LORD said unto me, THE BACKSLIDING ISRAEL hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.[12] Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.[13] Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD.[14] TURN, O BACKSLIDING CHILDREN, SAITH THE LORD; FOR I AM MARRIED UNTO YOU: AND I WILL TAKE YOU ONE OF A CITY, AND TWO OF A FAMILY, AND I WILL BRING YOU TO ZION:
Backsliding Israel. I am married unto you. I beg you. Dont try and tell me theres 2 brides
The Church is seen in Rev. chapters 1-3, they are the Aisia Minor churches.You guys got to get together and get your story straight. Many Rapturist claim that proof of the rapture is you cant find the church mentioned except early in the book of revelation before they are raptured. You seem to find the church mentioned all through the book of revelation.
Christ Bride is the Church.......
God'S Bide is Israel..........
Christ Bride is the Church.......
God'S Bide is Israel..........
Why would God Rapture Israel when Jesus is going to Return and Reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years? The Church is under the Blood of Christ, we are redeemed. Israel sinned against God, thus God turned to another.I gotta ask.... Are ya gonna try and tell me theres a separate rapture for each bride
Why do you not see what is going on here? Well I didn't see it for 30 years, until God gave me all of Revelation, so I understand.REVELATION 21 {9} And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I WILL SHEW THEE THE BRIDE, THE LAMB'S WIFE. {10} And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, {11} Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; {12} And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of THE TWELVE TRIBES OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL:
The Lambs wife. Dont you believe the Lamb is Christ
Christ Bride is the Church.......
God'S Bide is Israel..........
Abraham had TWO BRIDES.............
The Preferred Rachel.....................
And Leah........................
Get it together man.
Why would God Rapture Israel when Jesus is going to Return and Reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years? The Church is under the Blood of Christ, we are redeemed. Israel sinned against God, thus God turned to another.
Those in the Church of course have accepted Christ Jesus as their redeemer, and the Jewish peoples will be blinded IN PART until the fullness of the Gentiles (Church) has come full. The IN PART means that any Jew can accept Jesus as their Messiah/Savior, just like Paul, Peter, John and all Messianic Jews have, but most of course do not, that will happen during the 70th Week.Hi RT,
So....we never sinned against God. We are sooooo perfect?
Of course Jesus marries his bride. Read Rev. ch. 19. among other passages.Also about that emotive `wedding` `marriage` `bride` scenario, please tell me how the Lord is going to marry billions of people????
That is NOT what God is talking about.
`I will betroth you to me FOREVER; yes I will betroth you to me in righteousness and justice, in lovingkindness and mercy; I will betroth you to me in faithfulness, and you shall know the Lord.` (Hosea 2: 19 & 20)
`Do not fear, for you will not be ashamed; nor be disgraced for you will not be put to shame; for you will forget the shame of your youth, and will not remember the reproach of widowhood any more.
For your MAKER IS YOUR HUSBAND, the Lord of hosts is His name; and your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,` (Isa. 54: 4 & 5)
As to the city the new Jerusalem, it is described `AS a bride.` That is just a simile. it is just a picture NOT a real bride!
We Marry the Lamb, its well known throughout the bible.The meaning is that in eternity the Body of Christ purpose in the third heaven will connect with the purpose in the New Jerusalem, (OT saints) and both will be the ruling authorities under Christ in the different realms.
God`s purposes are about Christ ruling, NOT people being brides!!!!!!