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Small problem -the video is 1 hour and 2 minutes long!At the one hour and ten minute mark in this video
Lance Wallnau Ph. D. does a good job of summarizing
one valid angle on this.
Is your online friend in the Unity School of Christianity?An online friend of mine ...
Unfortunately, judging by what DennisTate quotes from that friend, the friend is in the school of incoherent, ignorant posts that are nothing to do with Christianity.Is your online friend in the Unity School of Christianity?
I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree -- but then, neither does the Unity School of Christianity.Unfortunately, judging by what DennisTate quotes from that friend, the friend is in the school of incoherent, ignorant posts that are nothing to do with Christianity.
Just read the quote.
Not much of a surprise. All that is needed is at least the level of reading comprehension needed to read the Bible!I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree -- but then, neither does the Unity School of Christianity.
Seeing as the crux of the Bible is:All that is needed is at least the level of reading comprehension needed to read the Bible!
Seeing an irrelevant quote. The Bible has more appropriate quotes about education.Seeing ...
Yup.The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Followed by deep ignorance about the separation of state and church. Noting to do with Bible verses.Yup.
Don't you mean separation of church from state? God from government?Followed by deep ignorance about the separation of state and church.
I mean the separation of church and state in the USA that this foreigner seems to know more about than someone living in the USA!Don't you mean separation of church from state? God from government?
Does your country practice separation of church and state?I mean the separation of church and state in the USA that this foreigner seems to know more about than someone living in the USA!
Separation of church and state in the United States
That is irrelevant to a display of ignorance about the USA separation of church and state.Does your country practice separation of church and state?
Is your online friend in the Unity School of Christianity?
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OK....first of all...I do not as you state..."choose not to believe in a god"...end quote gophangover.
I am not an Atheist.....I am AGNOSTIC.
As anyone who follows the Scientific Method worth their salt should be.
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You need to learn what the scientific method actually is, DennisTate, and thus how bad that statement is.but here is one of his statements that I felt was exceptionally insightful and accurate.
That "rigorous skepticism" typically includes that something does not exist unless there is empirical evidence that it exists. There is the extension that an extraordinary something needs extraordinary evidence.Scientific method is an empirical method of knowledge acquisition, which has characterized the development of natural science since at least the 17th century, involving careful observation, which includes rigorous skepticism about what one observes, given that cognitive assumptions about how the world works influence how one interprets a percept; formulating hypotheses, via induction, based on such observations; experimental testing and measurement of deductions drawn from the hypotheses; and refinement (or elimination) of the hypotheses based on the experimental findings. These are principles of the scientific method, as opposed to a definitive series of steps applicable to all scientific enterprises.[1][2][3]
An agnostic has a specific belief.Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.[1][2][3]
You need to learn what the scientific method actually is, DennisTate, and thus how bad that statement is.
Scientific method
That "rigorous skepticism" typically includes that something does not exist unless there is empirical evidence that it exists. There is the extension that an extraordinary something needs extraordinary evidence.
An example: Is there is a teapot floating between the Earth and Mars because someone asserts there is? A rigorous skeptic following the scientific method would say there is no empirical evidence and so the teacup does not exist.
This is a version of Russell's teapot example about the burden of proof (it is up to the person making the assertion to provide supporting evidence).
This is agnosticism
An agnostic has a specific belief.
"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"
The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
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"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy.
...
">"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
13 July 2018 DennisTate: An ignorant fantasy about my profile which states I am an atheist.In my opinion.... .claiming to be an Atheist......
and being unwilling to admit to actually being an Agnostic......
13 July 2018 DennisTate: An ignorant fantasy about my profile which states I am an atheist.
13 July 2018 DennisTate: A irrelevant poll when this thread is about a multiverse and "multiple Ezekiel 37 type events" fantasy.
13 July 2018 DennisTate: Irrelevant fantasies about Stephen Hawking.
13 July 2018 DennisTate: A quote about well known physics (Kaluza–Klein theory) with some irrelevant highlighting.
Argument from ignorance of incredulity? Ignorance that scientific discoveries are made as in Kaluza–Klein theory? Incredibility that large numbers exist?
9 July 2018 DennisTate: Links to a video by the evangelist Lance Wallnau with probable delusions about sub-atomic physics in the pages of the Bible.
9 July 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant "question of faith" post not addressing his lie.
28 May 2018 DennisTate: A lie of evidence that "G-d has gotten better and better and better at creation" and created the multiverse.
22 April 2018 DennisTate: Your friend was at least misleading and seems deluded about Ezekiel 37 ("a vision of the resurrection of dry bones").
18 June 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant (not about multiverses) Bible quote not addressing his lie.
The technological singularity is the hypothetical advent of artificial general intelligence theoretically capable of recursive self-improvement, resulting in a runaway effect to an intelligence explosion.[23] Eric Steinhart, a proponent of "Christian transhumanism", argues there is significant overlap of ideas between the secular singularity and Teilhard's religious Omega Point.[3] Steinhart quotes Ray Kurzweil, one of the most prominent singularitarians, who stated that "evolution moves inexorably toward our conception of God, albeit never reaching this ideal."[3][24] Like Kurzweil, Teilhard predicts a period of rapid technological change that results in a merger of humanity and technology. He believes that this marks the birth of the noosphere and the emergence of the "spirit of the Earth," but the Teilhardian Singularity comes later. Unlike Kurzweil, Teilhard's singularity is marked by the evolution of human intelligence reaching a critical point in which humans ascend from "transhuman" to "posthuman". He identifies this with the Christian parousia.[3]
16 July 2018 DennisTate: An irrelevant Omega Point fantasy.I am confident that the time will come when you have an epiphany and come to understand how all of that fits with:
16 July 2018 DennisTate: A rather simple fantasy from ignorance of String Theory, etc.My conclusion from the rather simple explanations of String Theory, The Anthropic Principle, the evidence for the Cyclic Model of the Universe or Multiverse, the Law of Complexity Consciousness...
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