Martin Luther once wrote:
"I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."
Article said:As Grisar explained, the situation which provoked the letter was the sickness of a wife preventing "matrimonial intercourse." One must not immediately place this situation in a 21st century context. Offspring in the sixtennth century were of vital importance. Luther's response was not an all out anything goes. Rather, the comment was directed to an exception (For more on the "exception," see my earlier blog article). It is true Luther allowed for polygamy, but only in a very narrow sense. Luther scholar Heinrich Boehmer points out that it was only to be in cases of
"...severe necessity, for instance, if the wife develops leprosy or becomes otherwise unfit to live with her husband… But this permission is always to be restricted to such cases as severe necessity. The idea of legalizing general polygamy was far from the reformers mind. Monogamy was always to him the regular form of matrimony…" (Luther And The Reformation in Light of Modern Research, 213-214, emphasis mine).
Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Luther: "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture"
If I were the OP, I'd certainly take that and run with it, especially if I knew I had Luther's 'o.k.' (which I don't...) And it has to do with the TOS as something that can't be promoted.... and whats the issue? lol
All I said was that polygamy isn't denounced as a sin in the Bible... and it's not. Don't really know what that has to do with CF's TOS.
I'm not promoting anything other than stating what is (or isn't in this case) in the Bible. If you can show that the Bible explicitly denounces polygamy as a sin... send me the chapter and verse.If I were the OP, I'd certainly take that and run with it. And it has to do with the TOS as something that can't be promoted.
I‘ve had accountability partners
I want other partners and she doesn’t.
Just so we're clear, my comment was to someone else... not the OP. This person stated there was a contradiction when there wasn't, I was clearing that up.If I were the OP, I'd certainly take that and run with it, especially if I knew I had Luther's 'o.k.' (which I don't...) And it has to do with the TOS as something that can't be promoted.
Oh well if you want to give up and call God a LIAR and keep on feeling sorry for yourself then none of us can help you, stop feeling sorry for yourself and pick up your balls and YOU MAKE the change, stop going on and on about GOD being the LIAR. No Sir you are the LIAR! You are the one that lies to himself! Pick yourself up and move forward, god can only do so much if you are not willing to HELP HIM OUT within yourself you are BLOCKING HIM! God bless and pick yourself up!You do not understand. I have given God the power over my situation, but I keep on sinning the same sins. Surrender is not the key.Surrender brings more pain, pain to my inner being. No joy in obedience. No peace in surrendering to God. No strength in my weakness. That's just it. I've tried it all, and done it all.
I know his role is not to do what I want him to do, but how can I do what he tells me to do if it is joyless, painful, and agonizing? The joy of the Lord is supposed to be my strength, but there is no joy in serving God. There is only work. NO rest. Ever. And no salvation. All of these things are products of Gods grace and salvation, but I receive none of them. God is indeed a liar.
I've gone through a fr darker place than that, I felt all these things you felt, I tried it all, went in to isolation, lost all the people I loved ALL AROUND ME I gave up for YEARS and YEARS a very dark dark dark place to be very dark. I prayed, nothing, I woke up one day and said "F It! I am making that change TODAY and I WILL OVERCOME!!" I did! I started picking MYSELF up and being DETERMINED and nothing was going to stop me!! I mean NOTHING! YOU CAN DO IT!! GO FORWARD AND NEVER STEP BACK EVER!Oh well if you want to give up and call God a LIAR and keep on feeling sorry for yourself then none of us can help you, stop feeling sorry for yourself and pick up your balls and YOU MAKE the change, stop going on and on about GOD being the LIAR. No Sir you are the LIAR! You are the one that lies to himself! Pick yourself up and move forward, god can only do so much if you are not willing to HELP HIM OUT within yourself you are BLOCKING HIM! God bless and pick yourself up!
I'd love to, but you know the answer. However, Sola-Scriptura to absurd levels doesn't do anyone any favors, either.I'm not promoting anything other than stating what is (or isn't in this case) in the Bible. If you can show that the Bible explicitly denounces polygamy as a sin... send me the chapter and verse.
... and whats the issue? lol
All I said was that polygamy isn't denounced as a sin in the Bible... and it's not. Don't really know what that has to do with CF's TOS.
The Op has not for 30 years taken Any of this kind of advice.Xavier Cane.... 1st.. I am not against this site.. but questions like this.. should not be asked here. Well you will get MANY different answers. ALL of us are out side the loop. Yet you asked..
I have been married over 30y. Never been with any other woman. Now.. by GODS rules/law.. just in my mind..I have. In His eyes its the same. Just putting that out there.. what so many dont understand is John 8:36 So if the Son frees you, you will really be free! Rom 6:14 For sin will not have authority over you; because you are not under legalism but under grace. 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things have become new.
I can keep going. You need to SEE through Christ. Meaning.. its DONE..its OVER! Though the flesh has not been changed and we ALL EVERYONE that is in Christ battles something. Yet.. see through HIS eyes.. your being LIED TO! Yes.. a lie. This SIN has no hold on you. Are you in Christ? Then old things have passed off and ALL THINGS have become new. See we walk by FAITH..this FAITH comes by HIS WORD! Read it. Find what the word says and speak it. Like... NO.. whom the son sets free is free indeed! That sin no longer has a hold on me.. like fear? God has not given me the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind <-----you speak HIS word.. you resist the devil and he HAS to flee.
Faith.. you walk NOT by what you see feel or hear. You walk by FAITH! My dear brother.. you have been set free. IT that SIN lies.. it does NOT want to go.. it has no choice. As long as that sin or any sin can get us to believe in which ALL things are possible to them that believe.. so for GOOD or BAD faith WORKS!
Speak TRUTH! You have been set free. Heart.. desires? Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. <----speak this.. I do all the time.
For you Isa 41:10... I mean FOR YOU.. HE SAID IT..for YOU! Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Speak His word.. KNOW that you know.. not by how you FEEL..but HE CANT LIE.. HE is faithful and true. No matter what it looks like sounds like feels like.. walk by faith by HIS WORD! Its HIM you serve. And HE does not judge you nor condemn you. He has NEVER EVER EVER EVER given up on you. There is no sin that controls you...haha.. yeah.. all a lie. THINK.. I have been set free.. I am really FREE..there are no more chains that bind me.. they dont want to let go.. THEY HAVE TO! yet as long as you confess you are still? What ever it is.. see if the WORD OF GOD says YOUR ARE FREE! THEN BELIEVE IT! I dont care if 7 BILLION people tell me something else..can PROOF what ever.. if GOD says different.. I am with HIM! For up to this very day HE has never ever ever ever failed me...nor you.
You are free my brother in Jesus name. The Jewish word says it like this "Then God’s shalom (peace), passing all understanding, will keep your hearts and minds safe in union with the Messiah Yeshua. So He gave you HIS peace.. not like the world....this SIN does NOT have any right to you.. unless you FREELY give it. I know of what speak. And I can only steak on what I know.
It's also illegal in Canada and the US and as Christians we are to abide by the laws of the land as long as it does not cause us to sin.As for polygamy, it's not supported by CF rules regarding Christian marriage:
If you can show that the Bible explicitly denounces polygamy as a sin... send me the chapter and verse.
I need some advice.
My wife and I have been married for almost 14 years, and I have not been faithful to her for a single 12 month period. We have 3 children together between ages 6 and 11. She knows of all the times I have cheated, and chose to remain for any number of reasons. I love this woman, and she loves me, but the problem is that I never been able to gain victory over sins of the flesh. I’ve done all I know to do, gave my life to Jesus (before we got married actually) I‘ve had accountability partners, counseling, confession, prayer, fasting, yielding to the Sprit, and none of it seems to work. I told my wife that she should divorce me, because I’m pretty confident that a person like me cannot be saved by God. The problem is that she has very few options, and that makes me sad because I did this to her. At any rate, I know she is not willing to be in a non-monogamous relationship, and I told her that I would never lie to her again. I want to stay married, and one day I will make a really good husband, and that will be the day I get some self-control, because I have none. I tried to kill self at the Cross of Jesus, but that didn’t help either. Self-denial is not a strong point.
What should I do? I want other partners and she doesn’t. I want my marriage, but God won’t take away this evil desire for other women, and I cannot take it away myself. I know this sounds like I’m blaming God, but I’m not. I take the full blame….But God never once gave me the strength to overcome when I asked him to….Not one time, and that is supposed to be one of the benefits of Salvation, freedom from the power of sin. I’m so messed up.
She can’t afford to move and neither can I. I told her that I would move into the attic if she wanted to leave me. I still advise her to leave, but it seems like she wants to stick around. She can see the effort I put in to try and make myself a good husband. I do all the things a husband should do except for one. The only thing I cannot do is be monogamous.
Jesus Help Me please.
I need some advice.
My wife and I have been married for almost 14 years, and I have not been faithful to her for a single 12 month period. We have 3 children together between ages 6 and 11. She knows of all the times I have cheated, and chose to remain for any number of reasons. I love this woman, and she loves me, but the problem is that I never been able to gain victory over sins of the flesh. I’ve done all I know to do, gave my life to Jesus (before we got married actually) I‘ve had accountability partners, counseling, confession, prayer, fasting, yielding to the Sprit, and none of it seems to work. I told my wife that she should divorce me, because I’m pretty confident that a person like me cannot be saved by God. The problem is that she has very few options, and that makes me sad because I did this to her. At any rate, I know she is not willing to be in a non-monogamous relationship, and I told her that I would never lie to her again. I want to stay married, and one day I will make a really good husband, and that will be the day I get some self-control, because I have none. I tried to kill self at the Cross of Jesus, but that didn’t help either. Self-denial is not a strong point.
What should I do? I want other partners and she doesn’t. I want my marriage, but God won’t take away this evil desire for other women, and I cannot take it away myself. I know this sounds like I’m blaming God, but I’m not. I take the full blame….But God never once gave me the strength to overcome when I asked him to….Not one time, and that is supposed to be one of the benefits of Salvation, freedom from the power of sin. I’m so messed up.
She can’t afford to move and neither can I. I told her that I would move into the attic if she wanted to leave me. I still advise her to leave, but it seems like she wants to stick around. She can see the effort I put in to try and make myself a good husband. I do all the things a husband should do except for one. The only thing I cannot do is be monogamous.
Jesus Help Me please.
There is nothing explicitly about raping your grandmother or having sex with your grandkids, so is that a good plan?
I need some advice.
My wife and I have been married for almost 14 years, and I have not been faithful to her for a single 12 month period. ....
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