Magnetic Bracelets

[JacksBratt]

Congratulations, your friends cancer went into remission, an extremely unlikely but not unknown situation.

So, the tumor that was in his throat and the new growths on his liver, miraculously vanished, with no scarring, after no response to numerous bouts of chemo, in one day, overnight.........and............you call that.........remission. OK gottcha...

 

[Aureus]

So, the tumor that was in his throat and the new growths on his liver, miraculously vanished, with no scarring, after no response to numerous bouts of chemo, in one day, overnight.........and............you call that.........remission. OK gottcha...

So lets see the local news paper article with dates, photos, doctors testimonials etc... that such an event would actually bring about. Yes, I'm saying you're either lying or exaggerating to such a tremendous degree the difference is negligible.

 

[AV1611VET]

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[JacksBratt]

So lets see the local news paper article with dates, photos, doctors testimonials etc... that such an event would actually bring about. Yes, I'm saying you're either lying or exaggerating to such a tremendous degree the difference is negligible.

Those are quite the accusations. People like this do not usually go to the newspaper. I don't know if it would even be legal to request the medical records, medical imaging, or what ever.

You see, the thing is, he doesn't have to prove anything to people like yourself. He was a teacher, was placed on short term leave, then long term expecting not to ever return. Now, he is back teaching. His family was preparing themselves for those last debilitating stages of this killer disease and watching their father, husband, brother, whatever, waste away and eventually die. The doctors had no more hope. His church family was giving support for the inevitable.

Now, he is alive and well. All because he, they, we had faith in the ultimate physician, God.

He is now back in the classroom, teaching. The people in his life, from neighbors, students, school board administrators, fellow teachers, children and their respective families and this man's circle of friends..........all knew of the impending end and now, the miraculous turn in this families life.

I just find it arrogant for someone such as yourself to say, with such pompous certainty, that I am a liar, exaggerator, or some man of dubious integrity or that the story of this man's dealing with his terminal illness is not possible or untrue.

I pity you and your sort. You live this life with no hope of acceptance of anything that cannot be explained by a person in a white coat with beakers and test tubes.

You consider yourself intelligent and full of knowledge yet you are a fool and blind in so many ways..

 

[Aureus]

Either that, or you're a John 9 skeptic.

Come on now AV, you know me by now.

Those are quite the accusations.

Its quite a serious claim you are making.

People like this do not usually go to the newspaper.

Got it, so no evidence of your serious claim, that started out vague, then became as specific and extraordinary as you needed it to be when you needed it to be.

I don't know if it would even be legal to request the medical records, medical imaging, or what ever.

Of course it is.

You consider yourself intelligent and full of knowledge yet you are a fool and blind in so many ways..

Do I? That's interesting.. how did you determine that exactly?

 

[JacksBratt]

Its quite a serious claim you are making.

That I am. Yet you have no evidence for your claim to me being a liar, other than your doubt.

Got it, so no evidence of your serious claim

Not enough for yourself, you mean.

Of course it is.

So you think that I can go to the administration and get your medical records? I think not.

Now there is something you believe that I would never believe.

Do I? That's interesting.. how did you determine that exactly?

There are two claims that I have made here. Which one do you wish me to explain my deduction on.

 

[Aureus]

There are two claims that I have made here. Which one do you wish me to explain my deduction on.

Ah I get it, you just like playing games, making things up and not answering questions. Have a blessed day mate.

So you think that I can go to the administration and get your medical records? I think not.

Now there is something you believe that I would never believe.

And no mate, who said anything about you? How about the Guy this happened to, the Newspaper, the Documentary crew and the publisher that cashed the book deal for this event.

 

[JacksBratt]

Ah I get it, you just like playing games, making things up and not answering questions. Have a blessed day mate.



And no mate, who said anything about you? How about the Guy this happened to, the Newspaper, the Documentary crew and the publisher that cashed the book deal for this event.

Ah I get it, you don't get it.

 

[Merlin]

They cure when they can.

A doctor cannot cure anything.
Avoid any doctor who says he can.
A doctor may put a cast on your arm but it is the body that heals the bone, not the doctor.

 

[Merlin]

What frequency do MRI's operate at. The therapeutic magnetic frequency is the same as the earth which is about 8 Hz. Higher frequencies are either inert or harmful in some ways.

Actually, a magnetized bracelet will operate at 0Hz, or DC.
8Hz is better but not gonna happen with a magnet.

 

[Merlin]

Do you know what a double blind study is?

I know what it is, are you offering funding for such a study?

 

[Nithavela]

I know what it is, are you offering funding for such a study?

No, of course not. Those sharlatans who peddle those toys make enough money to fund their own studies, but they won't because it is all a lie.

 

[Merlin]

Just to point out, the placebo effect isn't a actual real effect that does anything, it's the most missunderstood and practically woo concept on it's own even though it's not meant to be.

It is actual and real. The mind does control the body.

 

[Merlin]

No, MRI's do not treat diseases. They are not therapeutic.

How do you know? Is there a study you can refer us to?
I am not aware of any.
I doubt it has any significant effect but I do not know this.

 

[loveofourlord]

It is actual and real. The mind does control the body.

Sorry it doesn't, it's just quacks and woo's doing what they do with everything, missunderstand something then run with it.

 

[loveofourlord]

Well there is one place that placebo's have a real effect, nocebo's, where the condition fake, and what people are experiencing is things like stress, if you think doing X will save you from fake disease Y, then doing X will help as it drops your stress from Y.

So if a migraine is caused by some things, or even possibly a self creating condition, AKA feeling and worrying about the pain causes the condition that gives the migraine.

And just to point out alot of times when I have a bad headache, just taking Ibuprofin helps even though there is no possible way for it to effect me the second it's in my mouth.

 

[florida2]

Those are quite the accusations. People like this do not usually go to the newspaper. I don't know if it would even be legal to request the medical records, medical imaging, or what ever.

You see, the thing is, he doesn't have to prove anything to people like yourself. He was a teacher, was placed on short term leave, then long term expecting not to ever return. Now, he is back teaching. His family was preparing themselves for those last debilitating stages of this killer disease and watching their father, husband, brother, whatever, waste away and eventually die. The doctors had no more hope. His church family was giving support for the inevitable.

Now, he is alive and well. All because he, they, we had faith in the ultimate physician, God.

He is now back in the classroom, teaching. The people in his life, from neighbors, students, school board administrators, fellow teachers, children and their respective families and this man's circle of friends..........all knew of the impending end and now, the miraculous turn in this families life.

I just find it arrogant for someone such as yourself to say, with such pompous certainty, that I am a liar, exaggerator, or some man of dubious integrity or that the story of this man's dealing with his terminal illness is not possible or untrue.

I pity you and your sort. You live this life with no hope of acceptance of anything that cannot be explained by a person in a white coat with beakers and test tubes.

You consider yourself intelligent and full of knowledge yet you are a fool and blind in so many ways..

Cool story bro.

Shame God couldn't be bothered when a dear friend of mine died recently from a brain tumour. A wonderful, loving woman who was greatly involved with her local church. Out of the blue was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour six months ago and died a couple of weeks ago.

Stories of apparent faith healings actually push me away from the idea of a personal, all loving, all powerful God. As far I can I see the healings are done completely in a completely random and arbitrary manner which is, frankly, unacceptable.

 

[AV1611VET]

Come on now AV, you know me by now.

Alright.

Sorry.

Comment withdrawn.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Cool story bro.

Shame God couldn't be bothered when a dear friend of mine died recently from a brain tumour. A wonderful, loving woman who was greatly involved with her local church. Out of the blue was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour six months ago and died a couple of weeks ago.

Stories of apparent faith healings actually push me away from the idea of a personal, all loving, all powerful God. As far I can I see the healings are done completely in a completely random and arbitrary manner which is, frankly, unacceptable.

I am very sorry about the loss of your friend.

I feel the same way about faith healings, for the same reason.

 

[florida2]

I am very sorry about the loss of your friend.

I feel the same way about faith healings, for the same reason.

Thank you for your kind words