KIND = GENUS

[miknik5]

While that may be true in the circles you move in, that does not make it true for everyone. The Seed is not a mainstream name. There are many on this forum involved in Christian debate" who have not come across the name. And don't you find it odd that you make this claim while being ignorant of the original Protevangelum, which is extremely well known inside and outside the Church?

FYI when talking of the Seed of the Church, for most this references martyrs.

Please provide me one Christian who doesn’t know what is meant by The Seed.

While that may be true in the circles you move in, that does not make it true for everyone. The Seed is not a mainstream name. There are many on this forum involved in Christian debate" who have not come across the name. And don't you find it odd that you make this claim while being ignorant of the original Protevangelum, which is extremely well known inside and outside the Church?

FYI when talking of the Seed of the Church, for most this references martyrs.

Galatians 3:16 is sufficient.


Your last paragraph is incorrect for most

 

[miknik5]

Former Christian here, and 15+ years involved in Christian debate (both as a believer and unbeliever), and I have not heard the term in that context before, either.

Have you followed the conversation sir?

 

[miknik5]

You don't think that you have to provide evidence that the claims you make have validity?

Why should I?
God has already provided the claim

 

[pgp_protector]

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

Nope, first I've heard of it.

 

[miknik5]

Nope, first I've heard of it.

You don’t know that THE SEED refers to Jesus

 

[pgp_protector]

You don’t know that THE SEED refers to Jesus

I've herd of Jesus refereed to as

• The Almighty One
• The Alpha and Omega
• The Advocate
• The Author and Perfecter of Our Faith
• The Authority
• The Bread of Life
• The Beloved Son of God
• The Bridegroom
• The Chief Cornerstone
• The Deliverer
• The Faithful and True
• The Good Shepherd
• The Great High Priest
• The Head of the Church
• The Holy Servant
• The I Am
• Immanuel
• The Indescribable Gift
• The Judge
• The The King of Kings
• The Lamb of God
• The Light of the World
• The Lion of the Tribe of Judah
• The Lord of All
• The Mediator
• The Messiah
• The Mighty One
• The One Who Sets Free
• Our Hope
• Peace
• Prophet
• The Redeemer
• The Risen Lord
• The Rock
• The Sacrifice for Our Sins
• The Savior
• The Son of Man
• The Son of the Most High
• The Supreme Creator Over All
• The Resurrection and the Life
• The Door
• The Way
• The Word
• The True Vine
• The Truth
• The Victorious One
• The Wonderful Counselor
• The Mighty God
• The Everlasting Father,
• The Prince of Peace

But Not "The Seed"

 

[miknik5]

I've herd of Jesus refereed to as

• The Almighty One
• The Alpha and Omega
• The Advocate
• The Author and Perfecter of Our Faith
• The Authority
• The Bread of Life
• The Beloved Son of God
• The Bridegroom
• The Chief Cornerstone
• The Deliverer
• The Faithful and True
• The Good Shepherd
• The Great High Priest
• The Head of the Church
• The Holy Servant
• The I Am
• Immanuel
• The Indescribable Gift
• The Judge
• The The King of Kings
• The Lamb of God
• The Light of the World
• The Lion of the Tribe of Judah
• The Lord of All
• The Mediator
• The Messiah
• The Mighty One
• The One Who Sets Free
• Our Hope
• Peace
• Prophet
• The Redeemer
• The Risen Lord
• The Rock
• The Sacrifice for Our Sins
• The Savior
• The Son of Man
• The Son of the Most High
• The Supreme Creator Over All
• The Resurrection and the Life
• The Door
• The Way
• The Word
• The True Vine
• The Truth
• The Victorious One
• The Wonderful Counselor
• The Mighty God
• The Everlasting Father,
• The Prince of Peace

But Not "The Seed"

Well now you can add that to the list.

And possibly reread Galatians 3

I am saying reread because I am assuming you have read all of the New Testament
And I am saying possibly because I am assuming you must have overlooked reference of The Seed

 

[Speedwell]

Your last paragraph is incorrect for most

On what do you base that claim? Just googling it gives me the impression that naming the underlying theological principle in that way is something only fundamentalist Evangelicals are likely to do, which is hardly most Christians.

 

[pgp_protector]

Well now you can add that to the list.

And possibly reread Galatians 3

I am saying reread because I am assuming you have read all of the New Testament
And I am saying possibly because I am assuming you must have overlooked reference of The Seed

Doesn't refute your claim that

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

That has been proven false.

 

[Colter]

Not me. I'm an ex-Catholic, and I've been involved in online anti-creation debates since the mid 2000s.

Never heard that term in the context of Christianity.

"The Seed" thing is an example of forcing Jesus into old testament scripture. The context of "his seed and her seed" in Genesis is in relation to Eves sin and the long enmity between the Adamites and the Nodites. It has nothing to do with Mary and her baby Jesus.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Please provide me one Christian who doesn’t know what is meant by The Seed.

You've had plenty of Christians put their hands up to this.

Your last paragraph is incorrect for most

Perhaps in your circle, but for the rest of Christianity it would be true. A quick google search will provide the evidence.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

"The Seed" thing is an example of forcing Jesus into old testament scripture. The context of "his seed and her seed" in Genesis is in relation to Eves sin and the long enmity between the Adamites and the Nodites. It has nothing to do with Mary and her baby Jesus.

100% wrong.

 

[Colter]

100% wrong.

100%? You should be able to prove that.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

100%? You should be able to prove that.

Actually you should prove it not to be.

 

[Colter]

Actually you should prove it not to be.

Genesis 3 concerns Eves sin, her punishment and the biological repercussions. It says nothing about 6000 years later and Mary's baby.

 

[Kylie]

Why should I?
God has already provided the claim

No, you have been told that God has provided the claim, and no one has provided a single shred of evidence. Anyone can provide a claim of whatever they want.

 

[Kylie]

Actually you should prove it not to be.

Someone doesn't understand the burden of proof. If you make the claim, you must support the claim. Don't try to get others to do your homework for you.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Someone doesn't understand the burden of proof. If you make the claim, you must support the claim. Don't try to get others to do your homework for you.

The same can be said towards you .
Carry on.

 

[Kylie]

The same can be said towards you .
Carry on.

Oh, really? Are you really pulling out the, "Yeah? Well same to you!" argument? Are you a five year old?

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Oh, really? Are you really pulling out the, "Yeah? Well same to you!" argument? Are you a five year old?

Actually I'm not.
Please settle down.
Carry on.