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So what's the problem, then?
The problem is with people who think evolution doesn't work that way and that many small changes can't result in a new species; e.g. people who don't think a whale could evolve from a terrestrial quadruped.
 
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The problem is with people who think evolution doesn't work that way and that many small changes can't result in a new species;
What about those who think many small changes can't result in a new genus?
 
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What about those who think many small changes can't result in a new genus?
They would have to provide some evidence for that belief. Otherwise it is no different than believing that people cannot walk across town. Sure a person can walk to the convenience store and back. Or even to the nearest supermarket, but walking all the way across town? Not possible.
 
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What about those who think many small changes can't result in a new genus?
A genus is just a convenient taxonomic rank - as I already mentioned, I don't know what the ranking procedure would be if one species gives rise to a whole new branching lineage of other species; but if it was thought necessary to re-rank the hierarchy in some way so that new genera are introduced below the original genus (which would, presumably, be promoted), why should that be a problem? It would just be a question of adjusting the taxonomy to accommodate the new members; the ancestral relationships between the species don't change, just their labelling.
 
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