KIND = GENUS

[Kylie]

Actually I'm not.
Please settle down.
Carry on.

Please describe how the meaning of your post is different.

 

[Speedwell]

Actually I'm not.
Please settle down.
Carry on.

Just remember that your view of the matter is not necessarily normative for all Christians.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Just remember that your view of the matter is not necessarily normative for all Christians.

Actually almost every Christian I know agrees with me regarding the matter, therefore normative.

 

[Speedwell]

Actually almost every Christian I know agrees with me regarding the matter, therefore normative.

LOL! And most of them go to the same church as you, I'll bet.

 

[VirOptimus]

Actually almost every Christian I know agrees with me regarding the matter, therefore normative.

Thats not what normative entails.

 

[Speedwell]

Thats not what normative entails.

I think he knows what it means. It's part of the "only creationists are real Christians" meme.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

LOL! And most of them go to the same church as you, I'll bet.

Nope.

 

[pgp_protector]

I think he knows what it means. It's part of the "only creationists are real Christians" meme.

But is it 6K year old Earth Creationist, or 10K year old Earth Creationist?

 

[miknik5]

"The Seed" thing is an example of forcing Jesus into old testament scripture. The context of "his seed and her seed" in Genesis is in relation to Eves sin and the long enmity between the Adamites and the Nodites. It has nothing to do with Mary and her baby Jesus.

The seed ...,thing?

 

[miknik5]

No, you have been told that God has provided the claim, and no one has provided a single shred of evidence. Anyone can provide a claim of whatever they want.

I have been told by GOD

That, and the truth of 1 John 2, is the difference

 

[Kylie]

I have been told by GOD

That, and the truth of 1 John 2, is the difference

No, reading something in a book is not the same thing as being told by God.

And 1 John 2 is a claim, not evidence. You have a sales pitch, not evidence.

 

[Colter]

The seed ...,thing?

The seed debate, Eves son Cain, that she Fathered with someone outside the garden, the "forbidden fruit." It lead to biological changes in the gene pool causing great pains at childbirth for the descendants of that line. The world was already populated and already fallen when Adam and Eve materialized from heaven. There were tribes outside of the garden that were loyal to Adam and Eve, their religion and God the Father. When the sin occurred between Eve and the leader of one tribe in particular, the Nodites, other loyalists were infuriated! War and "enmity" raged on "between his seed" (Adam) and "her seed" (the Nodites) for ages and ages. Some say its still goes on today in the Middle East.

Cain, the bastard child of Eve, being a reminder of the default, was continually taunted by his pure line brother Able. One day Cain had enough and wacked Able! It was then decided that it was best for Cain to leave Adams group in search of his real Fathers people in the land of Nod. Simultaneous with Cain's decision was his "spiritual rebirth" (a mark) which gave him a distinct advantage among the tribal members of the Nodites. Cain found a wife in Nod and had Enoch. He built a great civilization.

The "seed thing".

The Garden of Eden: Paper 73, The Urantia Book

 

[miknik5]

No, reading something in a book is not the same thing as being told by God.

And 1 John 2 is a claim, not evidence. You have a sales pitch, not evidence.

I didn t read the book first

The Gospel was preached to me by GOD first

Then I read the word of God

Not before then

 

[miknik5]

The seed debate, Eves son Cain, that she Fathered with someone outside the garden, the "forbidden fruit." It lead to biological changes in the gene pool causing great pains at childbirth for the descendants of that line. The world was already populated and already fallen when Adam and Eve materialized from heaven. There were tribes outside of the garden that were loyal to Adam and Eve, their religion and God the Father. When the sin occurred between Eve and the leader of one tribe in particular, the Nodites, other loyalists were infuriated! War and "enmity" raged on "between his seed" (Adam) and "her seed" (the Nodites) for ages and ages. Some say its still goes on today in the Middle East.

Cain, the bastard child of Eve, being a reminder of the default, was continually taunted by his pure line brother Able. One day Cain had enough and wacked Able! It was then decided that it was best for Cain to leave Adams group in search of his real Fathers people in the land of Nod. Simultaneous with Cain's decision was his "spiritual rebirth" (a mark) which gave him a distinct advantage among the tribal members of the Nodites. Cain found a wife in Nod and had Enoch. He built a great civilization.

The "seed thing".

The Garden of Eden: Paper 73, The Urantia Book

Cut it out

 

[miknik5]

No, reading something in a book is not the same thing as being told by God.

And 1 John 2 is a claim, not evidence. You have a sales pitch, not evidence.

My evidence is the same as Paul’s. And is sufficient. If not to you, to me it is. It is why no man will ever be able to convince me otherwise.

I know what I learned and I know from whom I learned it


And it wasn’t a man

 

[miknik5]

.... dup

 

[Kylie]

I didn t read the book first

The Gospel was preached to me by GOD first

Then I read the word of God

Not before then

Okay. How did God preach the Gospel to you?

 

[Kylie]

My evidence is the same as Paul’s. And is sufficient. If not to you, to me it is. It is why no man will ever be able to convince me otherwise.

I know what I learned and I know from whom I learned it


And it wasn’t a man

You know, I do have to point out that people of all different religions have claimed to have received knowledge about the beliefs they hold directly from whatever God they worship.

 

[miknik5]

Okay. How did God preach the Gospel to you?

By opening the eyes and ears of my heart to THE TRUTH

 

[miknik5]

You know, I do have to point out that people of all different religions have claimed to have received knowledge about the beliefs they hold directly from whatever God they worship.

Many spirits.

But only ONE SPIRIT, ONE TRUTH...