KIND = GENUS

[miknik5]

Yes there is. Most Christians--and, presumably those who debate the Bible with them--don't refer to Gen 3:15 cryptically as "The Seed."

You mean to tell me this topic has been overly discussed with most Christians.

And you mean to tell me that most (if not all) Christians have already instructed those who do not know God that God is never referring to the outside appearance as what signifies those who are of like seed

 

[miknik5]

Insofar as what is referenced in Genesis, species seems a better fit.

Only to the lower of His creation

Man was created differently

Each of those lower created things had the male and female counterpart created alongside one another.

Only when it came to man did God take from the one (man) to bring forth the other complimenting counterpart (woman)

There should have been a lesser degree of error or variances in man since woman was taken from the man m
Not only that, it had already been declared by God that He would make man in His image

We know that man didn’t fully mirror the image he was supposed to have represented

So

God had another way
Which was the way from the beginning.

The Seed would prosper
Regardless of who acknowledges The Seed and who doesn’t

 

[miknik5]

It was honest innocence of a trick insider fundamentalist Protestant term for the Protevangelium--as you well know..

I do?

I’ve never heard the term until now

 

[Speedwell]

I do?

I’ve never heard the term until now

Now, shall I sneer at your lack of knowledge, or shall I explain to you that Gen 3:15 has been known as that since Irenaeus propounded the doctrine in the second century and is still so called by countless Traditional Christians who have never heard it referred to as "The Seed?"

 

[pitabread]

Each of those lower created things had the male and female counterpart created alongside one another.

Only when it came to man did God take from the one (man) to bring forth the other complimenting counterpart (woman)

Seems to have nothing to do with the "kind = genus" claim of yours (and the OP's).

 

[miknik5]

Now, shall I sneer at your lack of knowledge, or shall I explain to you that Gen 3:15 has been known as that since Irenaeus propounded the doctrine in the second century and is still so called by countless Traditional Christians who have never heard it referred to as "The Seed?"

There are more references to the seed than what is on genesis.

And Paul expounded it prior to iraneaus when he spoke of what was promised to Abraham

 

[miknik5]

I don’t know and have never read the church gathers insight into the scriptures. I have only read what is written in God’s Word.

I’m not sure that I need to read the church father’s words

I already have all that is needed in the truth in Christ Jesus

 

[miknik5]

But.

If you would like me to read something iraneaus said with regard to the seed, feel free to point me to where and what you want me to read.

 

[miknik5]

Go ahead and sneer if that’s what you want to do

It’s okay with me.

I’m really not sure what that will accomplish.

It really will have no effect on me
There’s nothing that a man can do or say that will change my stance

I know what I know and I know who I learned from

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Go ahead and sneer if that’s what you want to do

It’s okay with me.

I’m really not sure what that will accomplish.

It really will have no effect on me
There’s nothing that a man can do or say that will change my stance

I know what I know and I know who I learned from

You're missing the point. You appear to sneer at those who have not heard of The Seed, which is not a mainstream reference in Christianity. Yet you have not heard of the Protevangelum which is a mainstream reference, and has been for > 1500 years, so should you be sneered at for that?

 

[Kylie]

Maybe this will make it clearer for you


There are two kingdoms and two sets of children

Children of the light
And children of the dark

In the end, it is GOD who will sort out the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats

Once again, claims but no support for them.

 

[miknik5]

You're missing the point. You appear to sneer at those who have not heard of The Seed, which is not a mainstream reference in Christianity. Yet you have not heard of the Protevangelum which is a mainstream reference, and has been for > 1500 years, so should you be sneered at for that?

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

 

[miknik5]

Once again, claims but no support for them.

I’m sorry. There is really nothing that I need to do

 

[Speedwell]

Go ahead and sneer if that’s what you want to do

It’s okay with me.

I’m really not sure what that will accomplish.

It really will have no effect on me
There’s nothing that a man can do or say that will change my stance

I know what I know and I know who I learned from

There's nothing wrong with calling it by a different name; it does not imply ignorance of the concept, which is almost as old as Christianity itself.

 

[miknik5]

There's nothing wrong with calling it by a different name; it does not imply ignorance of the concept, which is almost as old as Christianity itself.

Calling what by a different name?

What exactly are you trying to say?

 

[miknik5]

I would prefer to refer to the promise to abraham regarding the seed than genesis 3:15

It’s more clear

 

[Kylie]

I’m sorry. There is really nothing that I need to do

You don't think that you have to provide evidence that the claims you make have validity?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

While that may be true in the circles you move in, that does not make it true for everyone. The Seed is not a mainstream name. There are many on this forum involved in Christian debate" who have not come across the name. And don't you find it odd that you make this claim while being ignorant of the original Protevangelum, which is extremely well known inside and outside the Church?

FYI when talking of the Seed of the Church, for most this references martyrs.

 

[Gene2memE]

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

Not me. I'm an ex-Catholic, and I've been involved in online anti-creation debates since the mid 2000s.

Never heard that term in the context of Christianity.

 

[46AND2]

Anyone involved in Christian debate has heard of The Seed

Believer and unbeliever alike

Former Christian here, and 15+ years involved in Christian debate (both as a believer and unbeliever), and I have not heard the term in that context before, either.