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Israel-Hamas Thread II

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Former Israeli MK Quotes Hitler While Discussing Gaza War

'As Hitler said,' Moshe Feiglin said to Channel 12 news, 'I can't live if one Jew is left,' we can't live here if one 'Islamo-Nazi' remains in Gaza'

Feiglin continued, saying that Jews "are not guests in our own land, it is entirely ours," adding that he wants to "turn Gaza Hebrew."
 
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Former Israeli MK Quotes Hitler While Discussing Gaza War

'As Hitler said,' Moshe Feiglin said to Channel 12 news, 'I can't live if one Jew is left,' we can't live here if one 'Islamo-Nazi' remains in Gaza'

Feiglin continued, saying that Jews "are not guests in our own land, it is entirely ours," adding that he wants to "turn Gaza Hebrew."
Two things, which I have said before, the promise in Genesis 17 is to the descendants of Abraham, not simply to Israel, and that promise is related to Canaan, not Philistia which is a very near equivalent to the Gaza Strip.
 
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'As Hitler said,' Moshe Feiglin said to Channel 12 news, 'I can't live if one Jew is left,' we can't live here if one 'Islamo-Nazi' remains in Gaza'
Hitler was Jewish.
 
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No, you're mistaken.
Belgian researchers found that a dominant haplogroup in Hitler’s family tree, known as E1b1b, is rare in Western Europeans but common among North Africans and Jewish populations. Some people think we are all descended from Bible Adam and Eve which would make us all "Jewish" but that is not the case. But Hitler does clearly have "Jewish" blood in him.

Hitler’s father, Alois, was born to an unwed woman named Maria Schickelgruber. Some say that Alois was the illegitimate child of Leopold Frankenberger, a young Jewish man whose family employed Maria as a maid.
 
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No, you're mistaken.
You my friend are correct. I spent a good deal of my first years as a soldier studying that little pervert. It is reported that his papa was a Jew that was never married to his mother and that being the case the Jewish religion considers him a bastard half-breed. Nobody ever got inside the little corporal's head but I suspect his mother's hate had much to do with fermenting Adolf's distasteful hate.
 
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If true, it has no effect on that fact that cleansing a region of an ethnos is a crime against humanity.
U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and U.K. Prime Minister Winston Churchill had to choose between Hitler and Stalin. Hitler was amazed that they would choose Stalin over him as the lesser of two evils.
 
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Belgian researchers found that a dominant haplogroup in Hitler’s family tree, known as E1b1b, is rare in Western Europeans but common among North Africans and Jewish populations. Some people think we are all descended from Bible Adam and Eve which would make us all "Jewish" but that is not the case. But Hitler does clearly have "Jewish" blood in him.

Hitler’s father, Alois, was born to an unwed woman named Maria Schickelgruber. Some say that Alois was the illegitimate child of Leopold Frankenberger, a young Jewish man whose family employed Maria as a maid.
It takes much more than DNA to be Jewish and it is impossible if the mother is anything but Jewish. There is a Jewish Custom practiced here in the US whereby a Jew can borrow from other Jewish People with unbelievable interest rates. Still, you must be born with the customary heritage as per their rules.
 
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It takes much more than DNA to be Jewish
You never heard of the one drop rule? In some places this became law in order to prevent inner radial marriages. During the holocaust Germany’s racial laws defined a person as "Jewish" if they had three or more "Jewish" grandparents, regardless of their religious identity or practice.

This is really why we had the civil war. A person could be 1/8 black and still be a slave. The north considered a white person anyone that had more then 50% white in them.
 
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You never heard of the one drop rule? In some places this became law in order to prevent inner radial marriages. During the holocaust Germany’s racial laws defined a person as "Jewish" if they had three or more "Jewish" grandparents, regardless of their religious identity or practice.

This is really why we had the civil war. A person could be 1/8 black and still be a slave. The north considered a white person anyone that had more then 50% white in them.
Wow! German Law has never had anything to do with being or not being Jewish, that does, certainly, not count today. Now, from my in-school and post-school Historical Study of the Civil War, the truth of the matter is the War was to maintain the integrity of the nation as one. The Procumation was not even considered before 1862 when Lincoln wrote the first draft that was then presented in finished form on 1/1/1863. The North was the reason Blacks were considered subhuman and cared less, as a whole about their freedom. But what does any of this, in your mind, have a bearing on being or not being Jewish? You are blowing a smoke screen.
 
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You are blowing a smoke screen.
YOU are the one blowing a smoke screen. Why do people always accuse others of what they are doing??? I mean I know why, because God only gives us the ability to judge our own heart. I have heard all my life that HItler had "Jewish" blood in him and now that has been confirmed with the DNA. The amount of "Jewish" blood he has in him does not really matter. Like I said in the south it was law that you could be 1/8 black and still be a slave. The one-drop rule was not made law until the early 20th century. This was decades after the Civil War, emancipation, and the Reconstruction era. It followed restoration of white supremacy in the South and the passage of Jim Crow racial segregation laws.

Of course none of this matters today. People can be whatever they want to associate with. My son is 1/3 northern China. But he does not associate himself with being Chinese at all. He considers himself a Filipino. Although NO ONE has ever guessed that he is asian at all. They always guess that he is either black or Hispanic. When you get your DNA tested they tell you what your percentage is. He is 3% middle east which really surprises me. I would expect him to have more middle east blood in him.

Israel does go by a different standard. According to the Israeli government, Jewish status is a matter of nationality and citizenship. The Law of Return, which was amended in 1970, defines a Jew as someone who has a Jewish mother or who has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion. The law also includes patrilineal Jewish descent, which differs from Judaism's halakha, which defines Jewishness through matrilineality. So a slave was a slave based on the mother, no matter who the father. Being "Jewish" is based on the mother also. This is why they work so hard to preserve the purity of the women. Although of course the Cohan Gene is based on the men. This has to do with who is qualified to be a Rabbi or a religious leader.

An interesting book on this is

Portnoy's Complaint


In 1998, the Modern Library ranked Portnoy's Complaint 52nd on its list of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century. Time included this novel in its "TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005."[6]
 
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Like I said in the south it was law that you could be 1/8 black and still be a slave. The one-drop rule was not made law until the early 20th century
And like I said, you are blowing up a smoke screen. You prooof texting is immaterial to the issue and your post is nothing more than many words.
 
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This you should believe.
 
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This you should believe.
This is war trash-talk, it’s rhetoric.
Taking it as anything more would require a belief that Israel can do no wrong (bad enough) to also be “bad guys”; if they’re still “the good guys”, we have to support them.
It’s circular and pernicious.

I took a couple of days last month to reevaluate my opinions about the Gazan War, trying to read war reports dispassionately and not reacting, as if it had nothing whatsoever to do with me, which, mostly, it doesn’t.

I do not need to invest any more of myself in this topic, should I so choose, but please believe me when I say that there are no “good guys” in this war.
 
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This is war trash-talk, it’s rhetoric.
Taking it as anything more would require a belief that Israel can do no wrong (bad enough) to also be “bad guys”; if they’re still “the good guys”, we have to support them.
It’s circular and pernicious.

I took a couple of days last month to reevaluate my opinions about the Gazan War, trying to read war reports dispassionately and not reacting, as if it had nothing whatsoever to do with me, which, mostly, it doesn’t.

I do not need to invest any more of myself in this topic, should I so choose, but please believe me when I say that there are no “good guys” in this war.
Most Americans have no comprehension of the savagery of Iran and their cohorts like Hamas and Hezbollah, or the utter evil of communist regimes. Propaganda is a major weapon of the extreme left and the radical Muslims. It is disheartening when people don't realize the difference between good and evil.
 
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Most Americans have no comprehension of the savagery of Iran and their cohorts like Hamas and Hezbollah, or the utter evil of communist regimes. Propaganda is a major weapon of the extreme left and the radical Muslims. It is disheartening when people don't realize the difference between good and evil.
I agree with your last sentence.
 
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