It won't be that obvious. I amazed how many Christians so utterly underestimate Satan's capacity to deceive.
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We know this kind of thing will not go away. It will just be modified into another form,
that may seem more acceptable. However if a christian is hid in Christ they will not take such a step how ever it is presented.
Where can I buy one of those?
This is a serious question. You're talking about it as though it existed, so where do we get them? Wal-Mart?
It won't be that obvious. I amazed how many Christians so utterly underestimate Satan's capacity to deceive.
It is more reliable to have faith that Jesus Christ will save you from the Mark of the Beast rather than to speculate or dwell on the fear of receiving it. Seeing as no one seems to truly understand what it is, all you need to do is trust that you will be spared from it when the time comes.
HOWEVER, you may find this interesting:
Open up your bible to Deuteronomy 6, specifically verses 5-8:
(KJV)
"[sup]5[/sup]And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
[sup]6[/sup]And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
[sup]7[/sup]And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
[sup]8[/sup]And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes."
Verse 8 talks about "binding" a symbol on the right hands and foreheads (between the eyes), which is no different than the concept of the Mark of the Beast in Revelation:
Revelation 13:16
"[sup]16[/sup]And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:"
Therefore, for sheer speculative purposes it can be considered a possibility that the Mark of the Beast could be a mentality rather than a physical mark or microchip in the same way Deuteronomy 6 talks about a "mark of godliness" on the hands and minds of God's faithful followers.
Hey RDK. Why you are dissing Omena? He answered your question and proved that the chips exist. You can't buy one at Walmart yet, but they're out there.
Oh I don't know. All people have to say is "as long as I follow Jesus in my heart, it doesn't matter if I bow down to this idol".
I'm confused RDKirk because you haven't shown that the chips are not available. Take your dog to the vet and he/she can be chipped. In fact I have a friend in Canada who says, legally, he HAS to have his cat chipped.
I also wanted to share that, IMO, while the devil is deceptive, he also wants to be worshipped openly, meaning that he wants people to CHOOSE him.
Whatever form the mark takes won't really matter that much, because the devil already has people believing in his system of money worship. That might sound a bit harsh, but that's what it is. People worship what they fear they can't live without.
Not really. Yes there has been lots of talk about a mark to allow buying and selling and the govt to know your medical stats and bank information and where you are by GPS. But the actual mark is you swearing allegiance to the beast, the antiChrist. This is something you will probably have to say audibly and sign for. It may be hidden partially in documentation or out in the open I dont know.
If you are born again you are already sealed and wont need to worry about it. If you come to Jesus after the tribulation starts you will have to avoid the mark by yourself. You might have to die by refusing it. If you take it rather than die you are damned.
We have grace now and are once saved always saved. We cannot mess up salvation now. Afterwards in the trib grace will be at an end. Tough road to hoe.
We have grace now and are once saved always saved. We cannot mess up salvation now. Afterwards in the trib grace will be at an end. Tough road to hoe.
If you come to Jesus after the tribulation starts you will have to avoid the mark by yourself.
I've always had a lot of difficulty accepting the belief that we are once saved, always saved. I agree that there are places in the Bible which could be suggesting this, but then there are also places which suggest the opposite.
I do believe that God will not forsake those who choose to follow Him, but nobody can say that those who choose to follow Him are unable to forsake Him. I don't believe any one of us can be 100% sure of the strength of our faith. What I mean is, if we are faced with death or torture (or not being able to buy and sell), that is when we will really find out what our faith is made of. I think that's why Jesus told us to "pray that we may be counted worthy" when he was talking about the last days. I think we need to be working out our salvation with fear and trembling (as Paul put it), which in practical terms has actually been very helpful for me. It helps to keep us humble, and it also helps us to examine our actions everyday.
So many of us have different views on the rapture and when it will take place, so I won't go into this too much. I personally believe the rapture is at the last trump (i.e. the end of the tribulation). But if I turned out to be wrong in this, great! I would be quite pleased not to have to deal with a faithless world and the potential of death and torture at the hand of the Anti-Christ. However, I'm prepared to go though that. Do people think that it could be beneficial to at least be PREPARED to go through the tribulation, even if you don't believe you will have to?
Hi Dennis,
Thanks for posting that article. I think it's great that you're looking for alternatives, however my personal opinion is that any alternatives we come up with--whether it's buying a plot of land, growing our own crops, or making our own currency--will be foiled by the Anti-Christ. The reality is that his system will be ruling this world more than ever in those last days, so in order to be outside of it I think we need to look well beyond any system which uses money (or material goods) as it's foundation.
This is why I like to focus on the connection between the mark of the beast and what Jesus said about living by faith (specifically, but not limited to, Matthew 6:24). I think it's this childlike faith that God will feed and clothe us that will give us the courage and wisdom to refuse the mark.
I think he had just seen the movie "Logan's Run."
"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.
Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.
Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
I think the mark of the beast will deceive many because it will seem so harmless. "It's just the next step in banking technology" so many will say. It makes sense to me that devil would use something that we have all come to rely on as the tool to get people to worship him. If the mark was nothing more than, say, a 666 tattoo that performed no function at all, most of the world just wouldn't bother.
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