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Is the Great Tribulation impending ?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Another Lazarus, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. stephen583

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    The devastation that's coming will be a clear indication this estimation of our proximity to the Second Half of the Tribulation Period is correct. The Pentagon released the news today the retaking the city of Mosul from ISIS in Iraq will involve 12 months of street to street fighting, (USA Today, Feb.10, 2016). The situation in IRAQ is going to become even more bloody in the coming months.

    Hezbollah in Syria also constitutes a far greater threat today, than it did during the Second Lebanon War back in 2006 when it fired 3,970 katusha rockets into Israel. Hezbollah then had an estimated 30,000 WWII type Russian katusha rockets. Today Hezbollah has between 60,000 and 150,000 thousand advanced Russian rockets, including the road mobile Tishreen, Fateh-110 precision guided missile and the Fajir 3 and Fajir 5 rocket systems with a range of 50 miles. Israeli cities like Haifa, Tiberias, Afula, Nahariya and Safed will be obliterated by these missiles the next time Hezbollah launches an attack against Israel, (The Israeli Defense Project Analysis, March 2014).

    Hezbollah's defensive capabilities have also expanded dramatically since 2006. The non-state terrorist organization and Iranian proxy, is now in possession of sophisticated Russian surface to air anti-aircraft defenses, as well as the supersonic Russian Yakhont cruise (precision guided, over the horizon), anti-ship missiles that can target Israeli warships in port. With hundreds of billions of dollars in new revenue flowing into IRAN, you can expect even these capabilities will soon be eclipsed as Hezbollah continues to modernize it's forces.

    The next Iranian backed attack against Israel will be like nothing the world has seen thus far. The conventional war we experience during the First Half of the Tribulation Period, will be unprecedented in recent times. Each new conflict will grow in magnitude, intensity and duration as the Apocalypse progresses.
     
  2. stephen583

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    Another disturbing and approaching event, is the 100th year anniversary of the Apparitions of Fatima which will occur on May 13, 2017. The Fatima apparitions of the Virgin Mary which occurred in Portugal from May to Oct. 1917, called for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and "opposition by the Church to the error of communism and atheism". This doctrine led to the creation of an organization within the RCC called the "Blue Army" which seeks to carry out the Fatima instructions.

    The final apparition on October 13, 1917 involved the miracle of the "Dancing Sun and Radiant Lights" before a crowd of one hundred thousand witnesses and the international press. At this time, the Third Secret of the Fatima Visions was communicated to the three children with whom the Virgin Mary spoke. Details of the Third Secret are said to relate to an Apocalyptic War, the great apostasy and the persecution of the Church during the End Times, and were supposedly released by the Vatican June 26, of 2000. However controversy still abounds, as allegations persist the Vatican withheld the last of three pages of the final Fatima message.

    If such a final prophecy does exist, the Vatican will be under extreme pressure by the RCC to release the final message in 2017. Needless to say, such a message (being consistent with the previous messages in its' content), could have serious political consequences for Western European/Russian relations thereafter.
     
  3. stephen583

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    Another unmistakable indicator the Tribulation Period has arrived will be the appearance of the Third Horseman of the Apocalypse, (Revelation 6:5-6).

    Commentary by Bible scholars seem to agree universally, the Third Horseman represents a global economic catastrophe for the world. A collapse of the world's economy and trade, that precedes, or perhaps even precipitates the appearance of the Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse.

    When you start reading about the economic collapse of the E.U, the collapse of other world economies like the U.S. and China in USA Today and the New York Times, that will be a clear indication you are indeed in the midst of the Tribulation Period, and the Great Tribulation Period is shortly about to begin.
     
  4. John S

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    WOW - THREE straight posts that are sheer and utter nonsense.
     
  5. stephen583

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    I also read in todays New York Times, North Korea and South Korea have officially severed relations, as North Korea closed a joint factory park in Kaesong over the South's criticism of North Korea's nuclear test earlier this month. Again. Seems to me like things are heating up pretty fast.
     
  6. stephen583

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    I'll save you the trouble, and label that as "four" straight in a row posts of utter and complete nonsense John S.
     
  7. John S

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    The Koreas may have severed relations but that is NOT going to mean that there is going to be a major war between them. So you're right. That is 4 in a row.
     
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  11. Dave Watchman

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    Abomination just means a despicable act. What if it is already standing in the holy place. What if it is currently "standing" where it ought not to be?

    What if we are past that point and well into the rebellion that precedes the revelation of the man of sin?

    What if the USA is the holy place? What if the USA is the earth who helped the woman?

    THE holy place:

    "and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God"

    A "place prepared by God" is a Holy Place. In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue, there were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. A flood was spewing forth from the dragon's mouth but with the help of men like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln a holy place, the earth would be made ready to help the woman after 1260 years of Papal persecution came to an end in 1798. The first nation on the planet complete with a "Bible belt" was to be born when it was previously illegal to be caught with one. In 1776 God opened up a new nation. Prior to this in the dark ages of Europe, entire villages of Christian men, women and children had no religious freedom and were burnt at the stake more often than not for reading or owning Bibles. This was the dragon chasing the woman and these estimated 75 million or more Christian martyrs would become the 5th seal souls beneath the alter. Lucifer was the hand that used the early church as a glove which hit the woman very hard during the middle ages. The founding fathers of the USA made sure that church and state were separate, America! America! God shed his grace on thee.

    America would become the Holy Place, the Earth who would help the Woman in Revelation 12 as the Dragon spewed forth a flood from his mouth. Most haven't recognized the U.S.A. as the Holy Place but when God does a thing it becomes Holy, rather than the thing being Holy so that God does it. Like when the "ground" became Holy for Moses and Joshua. America became the earth who would help the Woman in 1776 and at the same time the Holy Place established by God as a refuge from the persecutions of the Church in Rome. And the Woman fled into the wilderness, where She has a place prepared by God.

    On Friday June 26, 2015 a law was "set up" and is now "standing" in the "holy place" when the United States became the 21st country to make legal same sex marriage.


    Leviticus 18:

    22You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
    23And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.
    24“Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean,
    25and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.
    26But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you
    27(for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean),
    28lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.
    29For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.
    30So keep my charge never to practice any of these abominable customs that were practiced before you, and never to make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.”

    Peaceful Sabbath
     
  12. Berean777

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    The great tribulation is from Pentecost and onwards, until the second coming of Jesus Christ.
     
  13. keras

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    What WILL happen:

    The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11, Ezekiel 36:2

    They conspire to attack Israel - Psalmss 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2

    They prepare their weapons - Psalm 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14 [as is the situation today]


    At the moment of attack, God will use His Creation, the sun to send fire - Deut. 32:22 & 34-35, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, 2 Peter 3:7, Amos 1, Psalms 50:1-3

    The Lord will make their weapons recoil upon themselves - Psalms 7:13-16, Obadiah 15

    He will judge the nations, all the wicked will die - Isaiah 63:1-6, Hab. 3:12, Rev 14 18-20, Isaiah 66:17, Isaiah 29:20-21, Hebrews 10:27

    The sun will explode an extremely bright flash and the moon will shine bright red - Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Rev. 6:12

    Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Psalms 18:11-12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8

    A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earthJoel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18

    Everyone will be terrified - Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Rev. 6:15-17

    The atmosphere will be pushed aside – Rev. 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4

    The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zeph. 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

    Only a remnant will survive in the Holy Land - Zech. 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13

    His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jer. 49:2, Matthew 3:12b

    Millions will die around the world - Psalms 97:3-5, Jer. 25:33, Isaiah 13:12

    The Lord will protect those who call to Him - Isaiah 43:2, Acts 2:21

    But most will take shelter until it passes. Isaiah 2:19, Rev. 6:15

    The survivors form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Rev. 17:12

    The Holy Land will be regenerated - Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35:1-10, Amos 9:13-15, Jer. 33:12-14

    And the Lord's righteous people will gather there. - Ezekiel 20:34-38, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Rev 7:9

    They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jer. 31

    They will build a new TempleZechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

    The attack by a Northern army will be won by the LordEzekiel 38:22, Joel 2:20

    The leaders of Beulah will sign a 7 year peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:15

    At the mid point he will break it and conquerBeulah - Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:2

    This commences the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation - Rev 8:2

    Those who kept their faith in God will be taken to a safe place on earth. Daniel 11:32b, Rev. 12:14

    3.5 years later, Jesus will Return for His Millennial reign - Rev 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30-31, Zechariah 14:3

    The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28

    There are plenty more prophesies and details to prove this scenario.
    Believe it or not; up to everyone to decide! Psalm 1:11-12
     
  14. Berean777

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    In the new covenant age Israel is made up of all who are in Christ, this includes Jews and Gentiles. Israel of the old covenant was an earthly kingdom, having an earthly temple temple that was centred in Jerusalem, however after the Lord ascended up into heaven, his Kingdom Israel is not of this world, therefore not earthly, but spiritual and heavenly.

    So those born of the Spirit of God are declared the temple of God in scripture. The temple being the centre of Jerusalem, which now is spiritual, that is Christ's church, as he would say I will build my church. This is the Jerusalem that Jesus has built up over the last 2000 years, that is, his church, which is the body of believers. These living stones, is the new Israel of the new covenant. Therefore Israel are all those who worship in this spiritual temple, in spiritual Jerusalem that is heavenly and not earthly. True Israelites are children of the Spirit.
     
  15. stephen583

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    That would of course be the "irrelevant" Jewish translation of the warning stated in Matthew 24:14 where the Abomination of Desolation appears standing in the "holy place", (according to your translation a "reconstructed" third Jewish temple).

    "KNOW YE NOT YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLETH IN YOU"
    (1 CORINTHIANS 3:16).


    In Christian theology, the only "holy place" is the body of a believer in Jesus Christ as the "resurrected" Son of God, (Period).


    Is the Abomination of Desolation, Russian President Vladimir Putin a Christian ?!.. Lets check with Wikipedia.

    . Christened as a baby in the Russian Orthodox Church. Mother was a devout believer.

    . Regularly attends the most important services of the Russian Orthodox Church.

    . Wears a baptismal cross around his neck, which Putin himself says he
    never takes off.

    . The cross was blessed at the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, during his 2012 trip to Israel.


    Vladimir Putin is the first and only Russian president to visit the Palestinian Territory, (also called the West Bank), and called JUDEA in ancient times, (which is precisely where the Abomination of Desolation invades Israel at the Time of the End, Matthew 24:15).

    Vladimir Putin also has a vested interest in stopping the United States and Israel from building a natural gas pipeline from Israel's "Leviathan" gas fields in the Mediterranean Sea to Turkey, thereby breaking Russia's "stranglehold" of natural gas supplies to Western Europe.


    Uum. Yeah. I would have to venture to say the prophetic warning of Matthew 24:14 has already been fulfilled !
     
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  17. stephen583

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    That "renewal" of the Korean War, (you're not so worried about John S.) can happen instantly without any warning whatsoever. Soul South Korea is only 30 miles from the DMZ. North Korea has thousands of artillery pieces (with a range of 40 miles) close to the DMZ, that can "obliterate" the South Korean capital at any time. In fact, some of the 200mm plus Russian and Chinese artillery pieces the North Koreans have are capable of firing "tactical nuclear rounds". If you don't believe it, just "google" "can artillery fire a nuclear warhead ?".

    Of course, they could manage the same destruction of Soul by just using HE rounds, which is probably what they'll do instead.
     
  18. John S

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    Irrelevant nonsense.
     
  19. stephen583

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    For many years after Rome defeated Carthage, the Romans would scare their children by saying, "Hannibal is at the gates". That's an example of "sheer and utter nonsense". Turns out, the Visigoths sacked Rome in 410 A.D.

    People freaked out about the photos of German soldiers riding through Croatia and seeing crowds of people throwing "flowers" at their armored vehicles, when the U.N. intervened in the War in Bosnia. "Shades of WWII Revisited". That's an example of "nonsense".

    People also freaked out during Desert Storm, when a Japanese destroyer leaving Yokohama and headed to the Persian Gulf in support of allied coalition, unfurled the Japanese Battle Flag. "Shades of WWII, again". That's another example of "sheer and utter nonsense".

    The warnings I've posted in this thread and the other called "Nuclear Apocalypse" quoting world leaders, former Secretaries of State (like Madeleine Albright), the Council on Foreign Relations, USA Today, The New York Times and military sources like Jane's Defense Weekly and the Israeli Intelligence and Analysis Group, DO NOT REPRESENT
    SHEER AND UTTER NONSENSE
    . I CONSIDER THESE TO BE FAIRLY RELIABLE SOURCES, EVEN IF YOU DON'T.
     
  20. John S

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    They may be reliable sources but your conclusions are nonsense.
    Vladimir Putin is NOT the antichrist.
     
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