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Interesting that I'll acknowledge the Passover and some Feast of Ishtar, but you can't acknowledge Easter.
Interesting that I'll acknowledge the Passover and some Feast of Ishtar, but you can't acknowledge Easter.
That's too bad, but it shows how academia will not compromise with the Bible, despite wanting Christians to compromise with them.
Good for the English people.I'm not sure what I'm not acknowledging. I think some of the disconnect is your English-only hobbyhorse.
In the original Greek it's pascha/πάσχα, i.e. Passover.
I have no problem acknowledging that the KJV (and modern English speakers) say "Easter", because in the meantime (as Bede explained), the English people replaced the name of the Paschal time with Easter, from the pagan Eostermonath, "calling the joys of the new rite by the time honored name of the old observance".
The point was made that the lack of a change of state, (ie: 'endless/eternal' anything), means that there is no other state to compare it with .. therefore 'joy' ceases to hold any distinct meaning.I'm still trying to understand why you find eternity scary. You really haven't made that point that I've seen.
And when Luke wrote Acts 12:4, do you really expect me to believe he had the Passover or some pagan feast in mind?
That would be an affront to those Christians celebrating the day of Christ's resurrection from the dead.
So what are you saying it should say?He certainly didn't have Eostre in mind. But given the context -- talking about when Herod was going to time a criminal procedure -- saying Passover makes sense as that would have been a notable time in that time and place.
So what are you saying it should say?
"Passover"?
So why did God, who superintended the translation of the King James Bible, have them write "Easter"?
Bible says it, that settles it.He wanted to imply that Herod was a Christian? He was on vacation that day? The new guy on the team wrote it, and He felt bad about pointing out a trivial error and held his tongue?
Why don't you try imagining eternity with no variety, no purpose, no end in sight. Then be honest with yourself - does that sound like fun? You would be horrified by the thought of even a few years in such a state. Eternity? That's not a pleasant thought.I'm still trying to understand why you find eternity scary. You really haven't made that point that I've seen.
Humans wrote it. Post hoc naming does not indicate the original meaning. The word pascha is translated "passover" in every other instance. Easter was not a celebration when Luke wrote Acts, but it was when humans translated to KJV.Bible says it, that settles it.
Bible says it, that settles it.
You mean like here?So why did God, who superintended the translation of the King James Bible, have them write that Herod intended to do something after "Easter"?
Yes, that appears to be the passage.You mean like here?
That's not at all how heaven is described. Maybe hell is like that. We are told of beauty and purpose, reigning forever.Why don't you try imagining eternity with no variety, no purpose, no end in sight. Then be honest with yourself - does that sound like fun? You would be horrified by the thought of even a few years in such a state. Eternity? That's not a pleasant thought.
There was a Herodian dynasty which lasted until 44CE IIRC. The Herod in this passage is the great grandson of the Herod from Jesus' birth story.Yes, that appears to be the passage.
The real Jesus who lived on the Earth and died for us and was raised again from death--not just a character in a storybook whose existence we are forced to acknowledge because the storybook is supposed to have magical properties. I believe in Jesus, not the Bible.
Where does the bible say there is a purpose in the afterlife?That's not at all how heaven is described. Maybe hell is like that. We are told of beauty and purpose, reigning forever.
There was a Herodian dynasty which lasted until 44CE IIRC. The Herod in this passage is the great grandson of the Herod from Jesus' birth story.
Ah, I thought you were questioning who the person was, not that person's motivation.I'm not concerned with an anachronism. AV seems to be strongly asserting (and who would deny it?) that 'Easter' is a particularly Christian thing, and not at all a Jewish thing (i.e. Passover).
And that God himself ensured that the word "Easter" was correctly placed into this passage, uniquely among the translations of pascha.
The passage says that Herod intended to do something after Easter.
Why would Herod set his timetable by a Christian holiday?
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