Is the Earth Flat?

[JacksBratt]

That’s not the sun that’s the moon and we already explained why the moon is partially shown sometimes because the earth is blocking par of the the sunlight which leaves a portion of the moon unlit. The sun on the other hand is always a perfect circle.

The moon phases are not due to the shadow of the earth.

 

[RileyG]

its not flat

 

[prodromos]

Don't bother i already know the measurement you will give.

All I will give you is co-ordinates, length and direction of shadow of a 1m pole for two locations at a specific time. I'll take photos. You can then calculate yourself from the observations. I won't fake anything.

 

[prodromos]

Don't bother i already know the measurement you will give.

I'm hopeful that you and @JacksBratt will collborate and provide your own observations however I'm not holding my breath.

 

[d taylor]

I'm hopeful that you and @JacksBratt will collborate and provide your own observations however I'm not holding my breath.

I am hopeful that one day people like you, will at least give the truth of The Bible the same respect. That you now give the lies of science, but like you say, i also will not hold my breath.

 

[prodromos]

I am hopeful that one day people like you, will at least give the truth of The Bible the same respect.

Ah, the hubris.
Simply because we do not share your literal interpretation of the creation account in Genesis you accuse us of disrespecting God's Word, yet you reject the literal interpretation of John 6:53, despite the fact that the figurative meaning of eating someone's flesh in Hebrew culture means to destroy them.
You hold to a double standard. Hopefully one day you will repent of that.

like you say, i also will not hold my breath.

I get the sense that you have no intention of collaborating with @JacksBratt.

 

[BNR32FAN]

This is FE 101... check the model again. You can sail or fly around it all year.

not on the flat map that is to scale. The model your referring to isn’t to scale and is impossible to be made to scale. The only flat map that is to scale isn’t round like you said and on that map it’s impossible to fly around the earth. Either way a flat map of the earth is impossible to accurately show the earth.

 

[prodromos]

Try some parts of this:

The Flat Earth Controversy From A Biblical Worldview


Easy Globalist Arguments To Refute

OK, I had some time to look at the first link too. It just confirms that many of the prominent flat earthers cannot do math. His graphic at the top of the page is so out of scale that it delibrately misrepresents what will be apparent at proper scale. Person A and Person B stand over 1000 miles tall in his graphic and are several thousand miles apart on the graphic representation of the globe. It also completely ignores the fact that the man standing 3 miles away is going to appear tiny at that distance. The math is correct but his graphic is complete falsehood.
Further down the page he is selling kits for his atmospheric magnification and refraction demonstration, which as I have already explained, bends light in the opposite direction to that which actually occurs in the atmosphere due to the pressure gradient.
So, he can't do maths and he can't do science. He is either a complete fraud, simply profiting off people like yourselves who are easily swayed by his graphics and pseudo science, or he is a complete fool. Unfortunately I suspect a number of prominent flat earthers on the internet are simply parasites who have jumped on the bandwagon in order to make profit and a name for themselves.

 

[d taylor]

Ah, the hubris.
Simply because we do not share your literal interpretation of the creation account in Genesis you accuse us of disrespecting God's Word, yet you reject the literal interpretation of John 6:53, despite the fact that the figurative meaning of eating someone's flesh in Hebrew culture means to destroy them.
You hold to a double standard. Hopefully one day you will repent of that.

I get the sense that you have no intention of collaborating with @JacksBratt.

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So you will testify that when you drink your glass of wine, that you taste and can tell the wine changing as it enters into your mouth from wine to blood.

 

[prodromos]

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So you will testify that when you drink your glass of wine, that you taste and can tell the wine changing as it enters into your mouth from wine to blood.

Don't be ridiculous. Jesus gives us His flesh and blood in a form that is acceptable for us to consume. It would be abhorrent if it had the physical form of flesh and blood.

 

[d taylor]

Recorded the other night, of the star that God created, which science deceptively calls a planet 'Jupiter'

 

[prodromos]

Recorded the other night of the star that God created, which science deceptively calls a planet 'Jupiter'

I envy your equipment and conditions. There is too much light pollution where I live to get decent views of the planets. I haven't set the telescope up since we moved back to Sydney from Thessaloniki.

 

[d taylor]

I envy your equipment and conditions. There is too much light pollution where I live to get decent views of the planets. I haven't set the telescope up since we moved back to Sydney from Thessaloniki.

The equipment was not that costly. This is recorded with a Nikon P1000.

Now the conditions are good as i am close to the Gulf of Mexico which makes for good atmosphere ( when it is not so humid). Plus Mississippi is a sparsely populated state. This was filmed about 6:00 A.M. last Saturday.

 

[d taylor]

Here is a comparison and why (besides the Bible)i believe these stars are close.

In the first recording the star Jupiter is really farther south closer to the horizon. The second recording made the other day/night. I had noticed Jupiter much closer. Not right over head but still a lot closer than in the past.

What can be seen is the size difference in the two (Jupiter) recordings. As in both recordings, i had the camera zoomed out to maximum distance, so that is not the reason.

 

[JacksBratt]

All I will give you is co-ordinates, length and direction of shadow of a 1m pole for two locations at a specific time. I'll take photos. You can then calculate yourself from the observations. I won't fake anything.

That works on both a flat and spherical earth. The different locations of the sun, during the seasons and such, are not an issue with the FE.. thus.... the topic that you are indicating... doesn't prove the shape of the earth or idicate one view or the other is true.

 

[JacksBratt]

not on the flat map that is to scale. The model your referring to isn’t to scale and is impossible to be made to scale. The only flat map that is to scale isn’t round like you said and on that map it’s impossible to fly around the earth. Either way a flat map of the earth is impossible to accurately show the earth.

Not true. You can fly around or sail around the FE model.

Also, either the Flat map or the globe map is correct you cannot make an accurate spherical map of a flat earth... you cannot make an accurate flat map of what is on a ball.

Neither proves anything.

 

[prodromos]

That works on both a flat and spherical earth. The different locations of the sun, during the seasons and such, are not an issue with the FE.. thus.... the topic that you are indicating... doesn't prove the shape of the earth or idicate one view or the other is true.

We are calculating the distance to the sun, not the shape of the earth.

 

[prodromos]

That works on both a flat and spherical earth. The different locations of the sun, during the seasons and such, are not an issue with the FE.. thus.... the topic that you are indicating... doesn't prove the shape of the earth or idicate one view or the other is true.

Are you and @d taylor willing to risk being wrong?
Would the two of you be willing to collaborate and settle the distance to the sun once and for all?

 

[d taylor]

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[Yttrium]

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The calculations in that article assume that the Earth is flat.

If the Earth is curved, because it's a globe, then the base angles won't add up to about 148 degrees, they'll add up to nearly 180 degrees. The problem is that they're measuring the angle of the Sun above the horizon. But if the Earth is curved, the horizon is not parallel to the line between A and B.

But it is a pretty good triangulation if the Earth is flat.