Is the Earth Flat?

[prodromos]

Yeah, the angles to the sun in the example given are not from the chord between the two locations but from tangents at each location. It is disingenuous to use a globe as the basis for flat earth calculations.
The two locations need to be far enough apart to reduce error but close enough so that earth curvature will not make that much of a difference.
Assuming the earth is flat will produce a closer distance to the sun than will assuming the earth is curved but if the two locations are close enough then the margin between the two calculations will not be excessive.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The earth is flat when I walk on it. However, if I take all the google earth images and paste them together, it seems there is loopage from one end of the earth to another.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Not true. You can fly around or sail around the FE model.

Also, either the Flat map or the globe map is correct you cannot make an accurate spherical map of a flat earth... you cannot make an accurate flat map of what is on a ball.

Neither proves anything.

It proves that the earth cannot be flat if you can’t can’t make an accurate drawing of it that is to scale. Anything that is flat can be drawn to scale, the earth cannot be.

 

[Paul4JC]

Gleason's new standard map of the world

Gleason's new standard map of the world : on the projection of J. S. Christopher, Modern College, Blackheath, England ; scientifically and practically correct ; as "it is."

 

[d taylor]

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Will, after the globe earth lie is reveled, to be just that, a lie.

Will that affect your belief in evolution, if you do believe in evolution.

 

[revybub]

Do you believe the Earth is flat? If so, to what degree do you believe the Earth is flat?

While I have to give the people who think it is flat credit for how in depth their reasons are for it. It certainly isn't flat.

 

[prodromos]

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Will, after the globe earth lie is reveled, to be just that, a lie.

Will that affect your belief in evolution, if you do believe in evolution.

Never believed in evolution. I don't believe the evidence supports it. The evidence, however, proves the earth is a globe.

 

[ximmix]

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Will, after the globe earth lie is reveled, to be just that, a lie.

Will that affect your belief in evolution, if you do believe in evolution.

If the Earth is shown to indeed be flat, how would that nullify all the evidence for evolution? A flat Earth wouldn't automatically mean that the Bible creation story is true, so potentially it could be billions of years old (eternal?) and allow for evolution.

 

[d taylor]

If the Earth is shown to indeed be flat, how would that nullify all the evidence for evolution? A flat Earth wouldn't automatically mean that the Bible creation story is true, so potentially it could be billions of years old (eternal?) and allow for evolution.

So they are shown to be wrong in one area, why would you still believe that they are right in another area, the area of evolution.

 

[prodromos]

So they are shown to be wrong in one area, why would you still believe that they are right in another area, the area of evolution.

Biology and geology don't really overlap.

 

[JacksBratt]

If the Earth is shown to indeed be flat, how would that nullify all the evidence for evolution? A flat Earth wouldn't automatically mean that the Bible creation story is true, so potentially it could be billions of years old (eternal?) and allow for evolution.

A contained "snow globe" fully working terrarium type world... would completely destroy the entire evolutionary fable.

This model.. would demand an intelligent creator.. Nothing like this is going to happen by chance.
The globe model was impossible on it's own.. the enclosed FE... takes it to the blatantly obvious level.

 

[Richard.20.12]

I'm curious why God would make a flat Earth when no other planetary body is flat! The sun/moon/planets/all the moons of other planets.....all round. Why make us different? Makes no sense and serves no purpose. Its also totally illogical. God is very logical. He just operates on a higher plane than we do. But He is logical. The world is founded on logic and science.

And look at a lunar eclipse. When our planet gets in the way between the sun and the moon what shape do we see on the moon?

 

[prodromos]

And look at a lunar eclipse. When our planet gets in the way between the sun and the moon what shape do we see on the moon?

They will claim it is not the earth's shadow since lunar eclipses are impossible in any flat earth model.

 

[Richard.20.12]

They will claim it is not the earth's shadow since lunar eclipses are impossible in any flat earth model.

Amazing! How do they explain what we clearly see with every lunar eclipse?

 

[JacksBratt]

Yo

I'm curious why God would make a flat Earth when no other planetary body is flat! The sun/moon/planets/all the moons of other planets.....all round. Why make us different? Makes no sense and serves no purpose. Its also totally illogical. God is very logical. He just operates on a higher plane than we do. But He is logical. The world is founded on logic and science.

And look at a lunar eclipse. When our planet gets in the way between the sun and the moon what shape do we see on the moon?

I hear this a lot.. However.. why does the earth have to be a sphere.. just because the planets are? I don't understand this logic.

Why do people walk on two legs if most animals walk on four?
Why do whales breath air while fish have gills?
Why do penguins have wings but cannot fly?
and a big one...
Why do all liquids continually get more dense when cooled.. and continue after they are fozen.... While water gets denser until 4 degrees celcius.. the expands?

You are aware of the fact that the lunar eclipse can still show a shadow on the moon when the sun has risen.. right? A totally impossiblity if the shadow on the moon is the earth being between the sun and moon.

They have some real fancy explanations to try to get out of this impossibility.. but.. here you go..
A "selenelion"

For most places in the United States and Canada, there will be a chance to observe an unusual effect, one that celestial geometry seems to dictate can't happen. The little-used name for this effect is a "selenelion" (or "selenehelion") and occurs when both the sun and the eclipsed moon can be seen at the same time.

Saturday's Lunar Eclipse Will Include 'Impossible' Sight

 

[d taylor]

I'm curious why God would make a flat Earth when no other planetary body is flat! The sun/moon/planets/all the moons of other planets.....all round. Why make us different? Makes no sense and serves no purpose. Its also totally illogical. God is very logical. He just operates on a higher plane than we do. But He is logical. The world is founded on logic and science.

And look at a lunar eclipse. When our planet gets in the way between the sun and the moon what shape do we see on the moon?

Have you actually ever seen a real star (planet, call by science) or are you just going by pictures you have seen.

 

[pgp_protector]

Have you actually ever seen a real star (planet, call by science) or are you just going by pictures you have seen.

Both Saturn & Jupiter when I got my first 4.5" Newtonian

 

[Richard.20.12]

Yo

I hear this a lot.. However.. why does the earth have to be a sphere.. just because the planets are? I don't understand this logic.

Why do people walk on two legs if most animals walk on four?
Why do whales breath air while fish have gills?
Why do penguins have wings but cannot fly?
and a big one...
Why do all liquids continually get more dense when cooled.. and continue after they are fozen.... While water gets denser until 4 degrees celcius.. the expands?

You are aware of the fact that the lunar eclipse can still show a shadow on the moon when the sun has risen.. right? A totally impossiblity if the shadow on the moon is the earth being between the sun and moon.

They have some real fancy explanations to try to get out of this impossibility.. but.. here you go..
A "selenelion"

For most places in the United States and Canada, there will be a chance to observe an unusual effect, one that celestial geometry seems to dictate can't happen. The little-used name for this effect is a "selenelion" (or "selenehelion") and occurs when both the sun and the eclipsed moon can be seen at the same time.

Saturday's Lunar Eclipse Will Include 'Impossible' Sight

A selenelion occurs during a lunar eclipse when the sun and moon are observed above the horizon. Atmospheric refraction bends light rays and lifts the image of the sun, and the moon typically up to 0.6°, so both can appear above the horizon.

 

[Richard.20.12]

Yo

I hear this a lot.. However.. why does the earth have to be a sphere.. just because the planets are? I don't understand this logic.

Why do people walk on two legs if most animals walk on four?
Why do whales breath air while fish have gills?
Why do penguins have wings but cannot fly?
and a big one...
Why do all liquids continually get more dense when cooled.. and continue after they are fozen.... While water gets denser until 4 degrees celcius.. the expands?

You are aware of the fact that the lunar eclipse can still show a shadow on the moon when the sun has risen.. right? A totally impossiblity if the shadow on the moon is the earth being between the sun and moon.

They have some real fancy explanations to try to get out of this impossibility.. but.. here you go..
A "selenelion"

For most places in the United States and Canada, there will be a chance to observe an unusual effect, one that celestial geometry seems to dictate can't happen. The little-used name for this effect is a "selenelion" (or "selenehelion") and occurs when both the sun and the eclipsed moon can be seen at the same time.

Saturday's Lunar Eclipse Will Include 'Impossible' Sight

Nice try.
A selenelion occurs during a lunar eclipse when the sun and moon are observed above the horizon. Atmospheric refraction bends light rays and lifts the image of the sun, and the moon typically up to 0.6°, so both can appear above the horizon.

 

[Richard.20.12]

Have you actually ever seen a real star (planet, call by science) or are you just going by pictures you have seen.

We've all seen the sun, haven't we? Its ROUND. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto.....all ROUND. The moons of the solar system.....all ROUND.