Is the Earth Flat?

[JacksBratt]

So ... you don't think that a waning COVID/Omicron threat has anything to do with that ?

You think that a last minute protest was the motivation for changes in response to the pandemic ?

Has the vaccination mandate for crossing the border been lifted ?

Nope.. I don't think that the waning of the threat of the virus had anything to do with it.
The virus was waning going in to the protest. The blockades and protests were under control of local forces even when Justine was enacting the emergencies act...
The only reason he took it back was because the Senate was going to turn him down and that would cause a non confidence and a federal election.

If the waning of the virus was going to do anything, Justine would not have acted in over reach to impose mandates that were totally unnecessary.
Suddenly Quebec stopped the bid to tax the un vaccinated....and other provinces started pulling back on lock downs and other anti COVID measures....

The medical "experts" already knew that cases were dropping... That the new variant was nothing more than a common flu...

The protest woke them up to realize that the "small fringe group with unpopular opinions" were actually the vast majority.

Anyone who knows Canada... knows that if you have that many angry Canadians... meeting on that level of places and numbers... you are losing.

So, no... it wasn't the waning threat of COVID... it was the increasing threat of people not standing for any more lies.

We constantly heard of the threats of having to continue to wear masks indefinitely.. now.. they are no longer mandatory after March 14th.

Like I said.. this was too soon and too fast..and people were too awake to fall for the "wokeness".

 

[HantsUK]

Thanks for posting that, I'd only found it on Bitc_hute, which gets auto-censored on this site, presumably due to the spelling.

Great set of interviews with highly experienced pilots, submariners, naval and merchant mariners and others about their coming to the truth of FE. I liked the navy guy talking about how these smart missiles can be programmed to follow various turn-points to keep the target guessing. How on a spinning ball earth that could be done and still hit that target at 50km would require computations by the mind of God!

I presume you have never successfully picked up something fragile that's travelling at 500mph? Without damaging it. It must be virtually impossible. Let alone tip it carefully to pour the hot liquid contained within, without spilling any. All at 500mph.

I have. I have even drunk a cup of coffee (the air hostess claimed it was coffee) while travelling at hundreds of miles an hour, and without spilling a drop.

The various people on the video are just going round and round in circles repeating the same old FE claims. These can be easily dismissed with just a little thought. I'm sure lots of people were badly taught, or told "just accept it - the world is round because the XXX say so." Bad teaching. And most people do not understand the maths or physics involved, so when someone questions something, for example - why can you see further than you are supposed to, if the world was a sphere of the size claimed? (Answer: refraction. However, if you ignore refraction, then seeing further doesn't show that the earth is flat, it would show that the earth is an even bigger sphere).

If the earth was flat, you should be able to see much much further. And gaining a little height would make little difference to how far you can see. Actually, it would slightly reduce the distance (along the ground). But that is not the case.

Regarding the earth moving. So what. Were are on the same earth, moving at the same speed. If you are on a train travelling at 100mpg, and you jump into the air, the train floor doesn't move past you while you are in the air. No. You continue to move a the same horizontal speed as the train. Drinking a cup of coffee on a train, or a plane (while at constant speed) is no different from having a cup of coffee in your kitchen.

 

[d taylor]

I presume you have never successfully picked up something fragile that's travelling at 500mph? Without damaging it. It must be virtually impossible. Let alone tip it carefully to pour the hot liquid contained within, without spilling any. All at 500mph.

I have. I have even drunk a cup of coffee (the air hostess claimed it was coffee) while travelling at hundreds of miles an hour, and without spilling a drop.

The various people on the video are just going round and round in circles repeating the same old FE claims. These can be easily dismissed with just a little thought. I'm sure lots of people were badly taught, or told "just accept it - the world is round because the XXX say so." Bad teaching. And most people do not understand the maths or physics involved, so when someone questions something, for example - why can you see further than you are supposed to, if the world was a sphere of the size claimed? (Answer: refraction. However, if you ignore refraction, then seeing further doesn't show that the earth is flat, it would show that the earth is an even bigger sphere).

If the earth was flat, you should be able to see much much further. And gaining a little height would make little difference to how far you can see. Actually, it would slightly reduce the distance (along the ground). But that is not the case.

Regarding the earth moving. So what. Were are on the same earth, moving at the same speed. If you are on a train travelling at 100mpg, and you jump into the air, the train floor doesn't move past you while you are in the air. No. You continue to move a the same horizontal speed as the train. Drinking a cup of coffee on a train, or a plane (while at constant speed) is no different from having a cup of coffee in your kitchen.

Take the top off of your airplane and try it.

 

[HantsUK]

Take the top off of your airplane and try it.

Not comparable with being on a moving earth (except in a severe storm)

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Not comparable with being on a moving earth (except in a severe storm)

So everything occurs AS IF we're on a flat stationary earth, BUT REALLY we're on a ball spinning, orbiting, translating and gyrating through space at a combined speed of over 500,000 kmh, but we just CAN'T MEASURE any of those motions by physical means. Is that your thesis?

 

[d taylor]

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Photos taken yesterday Sunday 13th 2022.
Not sure what the height calculations would work out to be, if this Grain Elevator should be seen or not, but just posting as an example.

According to Google Maps Tchula Ms to Belzoni Ms, according to as the crow flies 17.8 miles
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These were taken from a little hill, I am posting photos of the hill next to a home so the height of the hill can be seen.

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Next is a photo from the location i took the photo x marks the spot.
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Now the measurement taken from Google maps.

Now the photo of the Grain Elevator that is in Belzoni Ms taken from Tchula Ms

Here are photos of the Grain Elevator in
Belzoni ms taken from google maps

 

[ozso]

@Shrewd Manager I took the liberty of putting your post here.

Lol, 'standard model' modern cosmology primarily was a stumbling stone for me to come to God and the Bible for many years, so it's mostly something for unbelievers. But the threads here are full of Christians shouting the few FE'ers down.

Try this thread: Is the Earth Flat?

I'm off to bed now though, so welcome back, let's resume hostilities tomorrow. Grace and peace.

I see I posted to this thread a while back ago. The one thing I know for sure is that many non-NASA people have gone up high enough to see the curvature of the earth. And many more will follow. So far I haven't heard anyone who's been high up enough to be able to tell, say they saw that the earth is flat.

 

[prodromos]

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Photos taken yesterday Sunday 13th 2022.
Not sure what the height calculations would work out to be, if this Grain Elevator should be seen or not, but just posting as an example.

According to Google Maps Tchula Ms to Belzoni Ms, according to as the crow flies 17.8 miles
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These were taken from a little hill, I am posting photos of the hill next to a home so the height of the hill can be seen.

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Next is a photo from the location i took the photo x marks the spot.
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Now the measurement taken from Google maps.

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Now the photo of the Grain Elevator that is in Belzoni Ms taken from Tchula Ms



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Here are photos of the Grain Elevator in
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Why did you have to take your photos from the top of the hill? Wasn't it visible from the lower altitude?

 

[d taylor]

Why did you have to take your photos from the top of the hill? Wasn't it visible from the lower altitude?

Trees

 

[Shrewd Manager]

@Shrewd Manager I took the liberty of putting your post here.



I see I posted to this thread a while back ago. The one thing I know for sure is that many non-NASA people have gone up high enough to see the curvature of the earth. And many more will follow. So far I haven't heard anyone who's been high up enough to be able to tell, say they saw that the earth is flat.

Try Auguste Piccard, pioneered 23km.
Auguste Piccard — The First Man to Reach the Stratosphere

Reported as describing the view of earth as 'a flat disc with upturned edge', possibly on an earlier flight.

Dr. Auguste Piccard’s Record-Breaking Balloon Flights

And what about Jesus Christ? Didn't the devil take him to an exceedingly high mountain to show him all the kingdoms of the earth?

Would that be the highest vantage point on earth mentioned in scripture?

 

[johnjanuary1984]

I don't think the earth is flat. There is no motive to lie.

 

[ozso]

Try Auguste Piccard, pioneered 23km.
Auguste Piccard — The First Man to Reach the Stratosphere

Reported as describing the view of earth as 'a flat disc with upturned edge', possibly on an earlier flight.

Dr. Auguste Piccard’s Record-Breaking Balloon Flights

That's one versus dozens. And no photographs I suppose.

And what about Jesus Christ? Didn't the devil take him to an exceedingly high mountain to show him all the kingdoms of the earth?

Would that be the highest vantage point on earth mentioned in scripture?

Thousands of jet airliners fly higher than the tallest mountain all over the entire world. Nobody has seen all the kingdoms of the earth from those altitudes.

It seems obvious that what took place between Jusus and the devil was a supernatural event, hence immediately wisking to the top of Mt. Everest or similar.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

That's one versus dozens. And no photographs I suppose.

Not really. You may not have been around in the heady years of 2013-17 when FE experiments were happening. There were several high altitude balloon experiments done to around 120,000 ft that showed a flat horizon all the way.

You might also recall the 'Felix Baumgartner' skydive over New Mexico, where there was a backshot of the flat horizon. I'll see if I can find the vids.

Thousands of jet airliners fly higher than the tallest mountain all over the entire world. Nobody has seen all the kingdoms of the earth from those altitudes.

It seems obvious that what took place between Jusus and the devil was a supernatural event, hence immediately wisking to the top of Mt. Everest or similar.

What limits visibility is the atmospheric interference, moisture, haze, dust etc. If the devil had momentarily dried the air (perhaps with a big bag of dessicant), who can tell what would be seen. You might recall Marconi's line-of-sight trans-Atlantic radio waves.

 

[ozso]

I don't think the earth is flat. There is no motive to lie.

It's probably the wrong attitude, but I couldn't care less if the earth is round or flat. I have no reason to argue for it or against it. However, way too many people have seen the earth from very high altitudes and none of them has seen a flat earth. They've all seen a round earth altogether, or at least a distinct curvature of the earth.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

That's one versus dozens. And no photographs I suppose.

Try this one, comparisons between flat and round earth high altitude phenomena.

You decide!

 

[johnjanuary1984]

To say the Earth is flat is reducing/limiting the powers of God

 

[ozso]

Not really. You may not have been around in the heady years of 2013-17 when FE experiments were happening. There were several high altitude balloon experiments done to around 120,000 ft that showed a flat horizon all the way.

You might also recall the 'Felix Baumgartner' skydive over New Mexico, where there was a backshot of the flat horizon. I'll see if I can find the vids.



What limits visibility is the atmospheric interference, moisture, haze, dust etc. If the devil had momentarily dried the air (perhaps with a big bag of dessicant), who can tell what would be seen. You might recall Marconi's line-of-sight trans-Atlantic radio waves.

May not have been around in 2013-17? Do you think I might be between 5 and 9 years old? I'm very close to 60 for the record.

As for what you're saying, that the devil might have momentarily dried the air, that's all guesswork.

All of the non-NASA people who have launched into space via SpaceX and Blue Origin have seen a round earth. None of them have said anything about a flat disk earth surrounded by an arctic wall. And the number of civilians going up into space is going to increase exponentially. So a secret that earth is really flat, is impossible to maintain.

If the earth is really flat like Terry Pratchett's Discworld, I'd love to see pictures and video of it.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

To say the Earth is flat is reducing/limiting the powers of God

Because it challenges people idolizing a near-infinite material 'universe' fantasy? Read your Bible, it teaches of a flat, stationary and enclosed world.

He established the earth upon its foundations, So that it will not totter forever and ever. (Ps 104:5)

Compare with this clip explaining the alleged precession and nutation of the earth:

So who is lying?

 

[d taylor]

I don't think the earth is flat. There is no motive to lie.

That is right i forgot, man is this perfect little created creation that never lies, especially the ones in government.

 

[ozso]

Because it challenges people idolizing a near-infinite material 'universe' fantasy? Read your Bible, it teaches of a flat, stationary and enclosed world.

He established the earth upon its foundations, So that it will not totter forever and ever. (Ps 104:5)

So who is lying?

I'm not seeing the world being flat in that. Rather it sounds more to me like gyroscopic gravitation which keeps a spinning sphere from wobbling.