Is it wrong for a Christian to use Marijuana if it's legal where they live?

[Chris V++]

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[Kenny'sID]

Is that street slang for opium?

For some, might as well be.

 

[Danoded]

It invites demons into one's life, it is utterly satanic.

 

[davedajobauk]

Some thoughts here of possible dangers

Dangers of Marijuana

The English Language, can be jiggled and juggled
to say THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE of the words, actually being-used

examples:

# "In reality, though, marijuana can interfere with motor coordination,
short-term memory, and concentration.
And regular marijuana smoking can damage the respiratory tract."

~as can other things, like getting beat over the head, with a baseball bat
~diving through the windscreen of a car you are a passenger in (collision with drunk driver)
~Beginning a sentence, with an AND ~is not 'done'
~no EVIDENCE is available, in support of damage to the respiratory tract by the smoking of Marijuana (alone)

#"Some susceptible users may even develop patterns of use
that qualify as an addiction to marijuana"

Oh Really!! Back, when I first began to USE it
The WORD then, was _
"It is a stepping-stone to Class A drugs" >>also NOT TRUE !!
Let's put this matter, back onto an even-keel

~We, are ALL individuals
and TYPECASTING all, with 'a single label'
is a construct / an attempt to declare, that ONE SIZE MUST FIT ALL


"#Part of dependence is defined by withdrawal symptoms when a person stops using the substance. Withdrawal symptoms often resemble quite the opposite effects as those sought by using the drug in the first place, which means that if you smoke weed on a daily basis and you suddenly lose access to pot, you may start to feel angry and tense. Frequent or heavy smokers who stop using the drug may experience the following mild withdrawal symptoms:"

~Dependance? I haven't seen any
~Of-course, I am unique / different / an exception ? (I think not!!)


#"You may know many people who smoke a joint now and then without developing any of the signs of addiction or dependence. You may even be one of these casual users yourself."

~Maybe, this CONCESSION is meant-to appease those
that might publicly argue the honesty of this "PITCH"

~The NEWS that some doctors and surgeons
Practice their 'Skills'
while UNDER THE INFLUENCE
will also not come as a surprise, to those 'in the know'

A few years ago, Glue Sniffers were mentioned Daily in our newspapers
Have they all KILLED THEMSELVES OFF ?
No! of-course not!! But, they no-longer attract the similar attention anymore ?
Nobody seemed to care about glue-sniffers, even after they were found-dead
Political Expediency > "No longer in-keeping With current political direction"


#"Marijuana smokers tend to inhale more deeply than tobacco smokers and release the smoke from their lungs more slowly. Regardless, marijuana smoke has been found to be significantly less carcinogenic and harmful than tobacco smoke, though this does not mean that it is safe. Research continues to explore the relationship between marijuana use and lung cancer."


~EXACTLY, and, just to ensure you have read this
"marijuana smoke has been found to be significantly less carcinogenic and harmful than tobacco smoke"

~Tobacco smoke, is LEGAL
~Alcohol is LEGAL
~Deceit is LEGAL

#"It’s unclear, however, whether these associations are the result of drug use or a pre-existing condition that led to increased substance use. Because many users feel irritable after the cessation of marijuana use, a luxury program "


~REAL KNOWLEDGE concerning the matter being discussed
ls concealed with use of MAY or MIGHT [no conviction / no evidence offered]
and whom is adversely affected and, who is not
with use of the word SOME [not ALL, and not even MANY]




reply, to reference:

Dangers of Marijuana



'DRUGS' are man-made by PHARMA
ALL 'Plants' were created by God

 

[Kaon]

Is it wrong for a Christian to be a homosexual if it is legal where they live?

CANNABIS isn't forbidden in the bible canon or apocrypha.

Of course, altering your mind to the point that you become a bumbling idiot is against the bible; we are to be sober-minded in the spirit, not ridiculous.


With that said, if your depression, seizures, pain, hunger... can be helped with cannabis, it is a much better choice than taking a potion pill that will produce the same side-effect you are trying to ameliorate.

 

[Kaon]

Prescription medication provides the consumer with more additions, withdrawals, and damage the actual body much faster than cannabis smoke precipitates do. Yet, half of the country is on prescription medication.

 

[davedajobauk]

Prescription medication provides the consumer with more additions, withdrawals, and damage the actual body much faster than cannabis smoke precipitates do. Yet, half of the country is on prescription medication.

For this, is how PHARMA survives_

One day they will bring out a Happiness Pill based on THC and expect payment for it

I truly do not understand, why so-many people ACCEPT their propaganda as Truth
There is sufficient information within the public domain, able to denounce MOST of the lies they publish (have published)

 

[Kaon]

For this, is how PHARMA survives_

One day they will bring out a Happiness Pill based on THC and expect payment for it

I truly do not understand, why so-many people ACCEPT their propaganda as Truth
There is sufficient information within the public domain, able to denounce MOST of the lies they publish (have published)

Researching means being responsible for the knowledge you find - even if you disagree. That is what scares people - that they will have to reconcile a complete shattering of their central paradigm that they believed was concretely "life". It was only Life as they knew it, and many are not ready to see life for what it is. It happened to me; I can spot the mentality very far away (and, it actually makes me sad for the person.)

This is likely why there is a polar response to "truth": either you get a scoff and ignorance, or interest.

I am actually completely baffled as to why anyone would, for example, take a pill that would cause more hard. Pharma knows the psychology of humanity so well that those who work it tell us exactly what is in every pill - side effects and dangers - and we still line up and pay. It isn't even conspiracy what Pharma does; they tell us in our face because they believe we wont do anything.

 

[davedajobauk]

It isn't even conspiracy what Pharma does; they tell us in our face because they believe we wont do anything.

I just have-to 'disagree' with this quoted-portion, of your post

Did you not KNOW
that PHARMA and MONSANTO have huge posteriors in your government
Did you not KNOW, that they have divested themselves of government scientists
that do not concur, with their manipulation of government and most-importantly
(for them) PRICING of Med's

That they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement, when they joined
AND were reminded of the dire-consequences of 'whistleblowing' upon their-leaving ?

I also have NO DOUBT at-all, that people have been SILENCED 'permanently'

 

[Dave G.]

I get the overall idea that alcohol is allowed but not advised in the bible. Though it's allowed just for the buzz, but not allowed to get drunk, I think it has a very good place as medicine, as in say we lose a loved one, or we are dying...definitely ok then, but other than a dying situation, just make sure once we get over our hump, we get back in control. Best to not mess with it at all, but some people are stronger than others and I honestly believe God recognizes that fact.

Even getting drunk at a time we cannot deal with something, or for whatever reason actually, though it is not advisable, FWIW, is not being an actual drunkard....continuous drunk.

I personally don't drink at all, I used to, and too much, but no longer like it for the buzz and would rather not for any reason, but can see myself tying one on in particular situations and not feeling the least bit guilty.

Again Alcohol is the only thing mentioned as even questionably ok in the Bible, the other stuff, unless we have a "real" physical need, just not good idea at all in my view.

The Holy Spirit took away my desire for alcohol completely, I don't even like the sight of it anymore and I see a package store as a place of the dark side of spirituality, not bright. And bar rooms too. I've seen destruction of lives, jobs lost, families broken, even death caused by people who submitted to both substances/either substance. The easiest way to overcome the effects of drugs and alcohol, to avoid the satanic influence that can be around either, is to not even go there.

 

[DreamerOfTheHeart]

How is it better than opiates for pain relief?? Nothing beats opiates.

That it is nowhere near as dangerous or addictive.

Isn't that obvious?

 

[DreamerOfTheHeart]

Hypocrites because we recognize sin, and answer the OP honestly? And, I personally am not acting,I think it a huge sin.



Sorry, but it IS a "don't do this" religion, regardless of the delusion some have chosen to live under, and live under only because they choose to no be obedient/have their cake and eat it too.



Like I said, deluded, and anyone who tries to wake them up are the ones with the problem in their mind...always the way.

Those who do not believe, as Jesus said, are forced out of the faith into a "do this, do not do that" religion. In other words, if that is your religion, you share the same behavior as the Pharisees showed.

 

[discipler7]

Yes, it is generally wrong.

LEVITICUS.10:9 = Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the tabernacle of meeting, lest you die.

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You quoted a verse that proved your statement false. You said "generally wrong," but the verse specifies when you go into the tabernacle of meeting.

1CORINTHIANS.3: = 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

 

[Tetra]

That it is nowhere near as dangerous or addictive.

Isn't that obvious?

Not remotely obvious. You said it's better for "pain relief", it just isn't.

Yes it's more addictive.

 

[Chris V++]

Studies show light alcohol use promotes healthy aging, if you can believe CNN: A drink a day linked to healthy aging - CNN

Jesus did change water into wine (Wedding at Cana.) Also there's Mat 15:11 11What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” - although it was technically in reference to eating with unwashed hands.
What was the first thing Noah did when the ark landed? He planted a vineyard. Of course Noah might not be the best illustration for moderation.
1Timothy 3:8 ' In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.'
Was 'much' Greek for any?

 

[Kenny'sID]

Those who do not believe, as Jesus said, are forced out of the faith into a "do this, do not do that" religion. In other words, if that is your religion, you share the same behavior as the Pharisees showed.

And if you don't think ther4e are things that God says we HAVE to do, then you are, well, once again deluding yourself.

Some think they can be a doper, murderer, thief, as a lifestyle and still get to heaven, while just my mentioning that most automatically know that's just nuts...they don't even have to think about it..

So believe as you choose, it's not biblical, it's of the Devil and just exactly what he wants you to believe...."you do good works, you are legalistic so doing the good works we're in reality commanded to do is a bad thing". That is the reality to some, and even after reading this, and seeing how outrageous it sounds when someone actually says what they think, still they think that way...amazing.

People that want to do what they want, not what God wants them to do, will always find a way to make it ok within themselves, as well as find someone to share their way of thinking, making it all the easier to believe as they do..

 

[Waterwerx]

Most of the whole debate of weed is wrong came from the fact that it was illegal in most of this country for the longest, so when people in church would say they use it, they would get the trashing and hear they doing illegal activities and that is wrong.

Now that some states have it legal to use, is it wrong for a Christian to smoke weed. Ive come across youtube videos and see people on their social media pages that brag about doing it and brag about their faith too in other posts, but its technically legal in their state, so no different than smoking a cigarette in their eyes im guessing. I dont smoke anything or ever plan to, but im sure I will be accused of judging if I told another believer not to.

So is it wrong for Christians to use marijuana if they live in a legal state or should they not be using it at all (recreational use wise)?

Yes, because it would fall into the category of sorcery > "pharmakeia", which basically means using a substance for "kicks", "fun", etc., which would be synonymous with "recreational" use.
Marijuana's active ingredients has its medical uses, just as any other drug or compound, but when you're taking something just for fun/recreation, it equates to practicing sorcery.

 

[RDKirk]

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1CORINTHIANS.3: = 16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

And Paul was specifically talking about creating factions in the congregation in that context, not wine.

With regard to wine, Paul told Timothy:

Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses. -- 1 Timothy 5

 

[RDKirk]

Yes, because it would fall into the category of sorcery > "pharmakeia", which basically means using a substance for "kicks", "fun", etc., which would be synonymous with "recreational" use.
Marijuana's active ingredients has its medical uses, just as any other drug or compound, but when you're taking something just for fun/recreation, it equates to practicing sorcery.

Actually, I think God's prohibition against sorcery was directed against it's use for spiritual/demonic purposes, as the case of Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8.

God didn't seem to have a problem in the OT with wine being used specifically for "kicks, fun"--recreational use, as long as it didn't lead to dissipation.

 

[Kenny'sID]

God didn't seem to have a problem in the OT with wine being used specifically for "kicks, fun"--recreational use, as long as it didn't lead to dissipation.

But wine was the only thing ever spoke of that he didn't seem to have a problem with for recreation. So that could mean he did have a problem with everything else, or he had a problem with nothing else as long as it's not overdone, and I somehow get the idea, overdone or not, he would have a problem with Coke/Heroine or whatever.

Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses. -- 1 Timothy 5

FWIW, I've heard, and it makes sense to me, that was because the water had germs that added wine could kill.