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Is it wrong for a Christian to use Marijuana if it's legal where they live?

Is it wrong for Christians to use Marijuana if it is legal where they live?

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I love the way in my video they show youths driving and knocking down a pedestrian whilst high, yet this has never happened unless of course you were high on alcohol to which it’s a very very regular occurrence lol.
Greedy no good for nothing evil killing puppets of Satan.
God will kill those who kill the world, welcome to hell boys. Your money is no good here
 
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It is not a question of right or wrong. We are not under any law. The Bible says, " All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify (1 Corinthians 10:23)." The questions to ask yourself is, "Is it profitable use marijuana?" and "Why do you want to use it?" Personally, I do not see the Lord leading a believer to use marijuana. I don't see the benefit of being controlled by a mind-altering substance instead of being controlled by the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, what kind of stumbling block would you be (i.e. Romans 14) to other, weaker Christians? I would advise you to steer clear of it, but you have to want to steer clear of it. Grace and Peace.
 
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It is not a question of right or wrong. We are not under any law. The Bible says, " All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify (1 Corinthians 10:23)." The questions to ask yourself is, "Is it profitable use marijuana?" and "Why do you want to use it?" Personally, I do not see the Lord leading a believer to use marijuana. I don't see the benefit of being controlled by a mind-altering substance instead of being controlled by the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, what kind of stumbling block would you be (i.e. Romans 14) to other, weaker Christians? I would advise you to steer clear of it, but you have to want to steer clear of it. Grace and Peace.
Can I say something that is not in a prove my point tit for tat

In the Bible it says do not be filled with alcohol but the spirit
It also says in the Bible give a man in mourning strong drink and a potent (extra strong) drink to a man in pain or deathbed

Now they use cannabis for medicinal purposes and I believe this is ok too.
It’s where normal people go out and get stoned for the sake of getting high is where the problem lies.
I believe it’s all down to misuse, and shouldn’t be banned because of a percentage. People abuse alcohol which nothing is ever done about that
 
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Most of the whole debate of weed is wrong came from the fact that it was illegal in most of this country for the longest, so when people in church would say they use it, they would get the trashing and hear they doing illegal activities and that is wrong.

Now that some states have it legal to use, is it wrong for a Christian to smoke weed. Ive come across youtube videos and see people on their social media pages that brag about doing it and brag about their faith too in other posts, but its technically legal in their state, so no different than smoking a cigarette in their eyes im guessing. I dont smoke anything or ever plan to, but im sure I will be accused of judging if I told another believer not to.

So is it wrong for Christians to use marijuana if they live in a legal state or should they not be using it at all (recreational use wise)?
If you read about toxic effects of marijuana, you might find it is a carcinogenic, hallucinogenic neurotoxin. Cannabis has been shown to retard brain development in adolescent children. Marijuana was shown to be more carcinogenic than cigarettes. States legalizing marijuana saw increased traffic accidents and emergency room visits by those suffering from weed overdoses.

Alcohol abuse is also a major problem. I drank a 750mm bottle of red wine in ten days. Wine has polyphenols and calories. It has been used for thousands of years. Fermenting grape juice preserved the vineyard harvests before there was pasteurization and refrigeration. Studies have shown drinking small amounts of wine might actually make a person healthier, while drinking large amounts will kill a person.

One may not recommend marijuana, because it makes people sick. I would not recommend alcohol to an alcoholic.
 
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There's nothing in the bible that I know of that'd be against it.

Actually there is. Drug use is synonymous with witchcraft and sorcery. You or anyone trying to justify drug use should do an honest study about it for themselves.


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Intro: Gal 5:20 Sorcery/witchcraft, is from the Greek word, "Pharmakia" the same word we get pharmacy from. it means the general illicit use of drugs (same application as today) and the use of drugs to cast spells etc.

1. Ask for discussion: "Who are the two drug dealers of the Bible?" Elymas and Simon: Acts 13:6 ; Acts 8:9

a. Notice this is illustrative of what Gal 5:20 condemns. These men, called sorcerers, magicians, witchcraft. b. Harper's bible dictionary says: "On the lowest level were the 'imposters' (2 Tim. 3:13) who played their tricks as do circus magicians today. Between these were the sorcerers, enchanters, and charmers who could cast spells and knew how to use herbs, potions, and drugs." c. W. E. Vine says, "In sorcery, the use of drugs, whether simple or potent, was generally accompanied by incantations and appeals to occult powers, with the provision of various charms, amulets, etc., professedly designed to keep the applicant or patient from the attention and power of demons, but actually to impress the applicant with the mysterious resources and powers of the sorcerer."
d. So like a witch that stirs her pot of secret brewing herbs, who then takes a small bottle of the potion and gives it to someone, so too with Elymas and Simon. The witch was a drug dealer. Simon would give hallucinogen drugs like "THC" (cannabis) "Psylocibin" or "Cybelcyblin" (magic mushroom) "Cocaine", "Heroin" (poppy plant) to someone, wait a few minutes then as the drug starts to set in, start waving his hands around giving the impression that HIS POWER is causing all the pink elephants to fly.

2. Ask for discussion: "Where was Jesus offered drugs and refused?": on the cross "Gall" Mt 27:34.

a. The Jerome Bible commentary says at Mt 27:34: "It was the practice of Jewish women to offer a strong narcotic drink to men condemned to execution; Jesus refused this." b. Matthew Henry comments: "By the drink they provided for him before he was nailed to the cross, v. 34. It was usual to have a cup of spiced wine for those to drink of, that were to be put to death, according to Solomon's direction (Prov. 31:6, 7), Give strong drink to him that is ready to perish" c. Lensky says at Mt 27:34, "34) Regarding the actual crucifixion Matthew and Mark report only the offer of doped wine which Jesus refused. Matthew calls it wine mixed with Gall. This was not actual gall, but the drink was so called because of its bitter taste. Mark reports that the drink was wine mixed with myrrh, and this tells us what the bitter substance was. Myrrh was added to the wine in order to give it a stupefying effect. This was not an evidence of mercy on the part of the executioners; it was quite the opposite, for it was intended to make their labor of crucifying easier. A man who had been heavily doped with this drink could be easily handled. After one taste of this Jesus refused to drink more of this stupefying drink, and the imperfect [Greek] reads as though he was repeatedly urged to drink and as repeatedly refused. He intended to go through the final ordeal with a perfectly clear mind; he intended to endure all without avoiding a single agony. After a generous drink of this wine Jesus could not have spoken as he did and made his death what it was.
3. Ask for discussion: "Where was a preacher ordered by God to drink alcohol?": Timothy the evangelist: 1 Tim 5:23 But notice that was for medical reasons. This verse proves that Timothy was in fact an abstainer, otherwise, he would already have been drinking wine... God had to tell him to stop being an abstainer for his health. The argument of a glass of wine a day as a reduction in heart problems, is invented by wine companies who fail to tell you that you get 10 times the positive effect by just drinking straight grape juice!

4. Illicit drugs destroy the body and are condemned: 1 Cor 3:16; 6:19.

5. Illicit drugs are condemned because its fruit is rotten. Matthew 7:17ff. Frequent drug users are losers with messed up lives constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Eventual loss of family, wealth, jobs, friends and life itself. Drug users are associated with biker gangs, going to bars, immoral sexual activity, illegal activity. Successful people do not use drugs. Take a look at the people who use drugs and line them up with people who do not... big difference! Look at the lives of 5 people you know who use drugs. Generally they have many chums, but few close friends, high rate of changing jobs and are often unemployed, are absentee parents who party all night while their teens are left home unsupervised, are irrational in their logic and thinking pattern being plagued with poor judgement. They have many sexual partners, are often unfaithful to their spouses and are violent and irrational with their children. They tend to be selfish and unable to exercise self control in any area of their lives. When confronted with such facts, they simply deny the truth and accuse you of being crazy, when in fact they are the crazy ones. They are hurting and unhappy but they don't know why... just as the Bible says:

Proverbs 4:18 perfectly describes the difference between drug users and Christians who do not: "But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, That shines brighter and brighter until the full day. The way of the wicked is like darkness; They do not know over what they stumble."
6. Drug use is outright condemned in the Bible: Gal 5:20.

7. (Draw a chart with one to 7 beers, then ask the class where the line of drunkenness is. Answer will vary, but the law is 2 beers in one hour exceeds .08. Then extent the chart to the right for other drugs. Since drunkenness from alcohol is condemned in the Bible (Gal 5:21) we offer the following: Society has determined that drunkenness is .08 blood alcohol content, compare the same kind of impairment by various drugs. If two beers is .08, what about a single joint, a hit of ecstasy, a single mushroom, a single snort of coke. While you can drink one beer and not be DRUNK, one "dose" (the smallest portion) of a drug puts you way over the impairment of .08. So while some might argue that it is ok for one beer, no such argument can be made for drugs.
 
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It is not a question of right or wrong. We are not under any law. The Bible says, " All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify (1 Corinthians 10:23)." The questions to ask yourself is, "Is it profitable use marijuana?" and "Why do you want to use it?" Personally, I do not see the Lord leading a believer to use marijuana. I don't see the benefit of being controlled by a mind-altering substance instead of being controlled by the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, what kind of stumbling block would you be (i.e. Romans 14) to other, weaker Christians? I would advise you to steer clear of it, but you have to want to steer clear of it. Grace and Peace.

That was referring to the Mosiac Law, not the laws of the land. The only time we do not obey the laws of men is when they tell us to disobey the Lord directly or deny our faith.

Romans 13:1-7 ESV / 244 helpful votes
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...

Romans 13:1 ESV / 146 helpful votes
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

1 Peter 2:13-17 ESV / 98 helpful votes
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Romans 13:2 ESV / 81 helpful votes

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
 
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It depends on the motivation. If it's for medical reason for pain help, I don't see a problem with it - other medications prescribed can make a person as sedate or loopy (look at some cold meds!). If it's just to keep getting high for recreational use every week, that can be a different story.
 
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Scripture does not speak of it directly and it does have a medicinal good use , it matters not what people say about it either pro or con ; consider that scripture does acknowledge that it is acceptable to drink wine - but not to the point where you become intoxicated , when you drink to get intoxicated then it is not acceptable , If you use marijuana some things to consider
Smoking it or anything -inhaling the smoke is harmful to the body - Would God find it acceptable
If you truly have a valid medicinal use for it - God will know about it
If you use it simply for recreational use - Do you think God will find it acceptable ?
It comes down to even if it is legal by mans laws , God will know why you are using it
If using in a manner that is unacceptable in Gods eyes you will be held accountable for it
It does not matter what people say as they say a lot of negative stuff and they will not be judging you on judgment day the Lord Jesus will - it will come down to why you are using it and if God finds that usage acceptable in His eyes

^^^^ this

.. my girlfriend has agressive cancer
and what helps her is to smoke that
and she (nor me) have any problem with that -
in fact she dislikes it because it makes her soul get numb ,
and cannot find He like she used to
but she needs it for the wretching pain
 
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The differences from how it interacts in the body physiologically, and to how patients subjectively rate the effects are completely different. What evidence do you have to believe they're the same?
Speaking in a spiritual sense and what that means in relationship to God. If God doesn't want us getting drunk/high on alcohol, I don't believe He would want us getting drunk/high on pot. In both cases people can make poor choices/have bad judgment. Speaking here in terms of recreational use.
 
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Most of the whole debate of weed is wrong came from the fact that it was illegal in most of this country for the longest, so when people in church would say they use it, they would get the trashing and hear they doing illegal activities and that is wrong.

Now that some states have it legal to use, is it wrong for a Christian to smoke weed. Ive come across youtube videos and see people on their social media pages that brag about doing it and brag about their faith too in other posts, but its technically legal in their state, so no different than smoking a cigarette in their eyes im guessing. I dont smoke anything or ever plan to, but im sure I will be accused of judging if I told another believer not to.

So is it wrong for Christians to use marijuana if they live in a legal state or should they not be using it at all (recreational use wise)?

Alcohol is legal yet Peter says we should be sober minded and watchful of the devil.

“Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8‬ ‭ASV‬‬

Alcohol is also legal and the Bible warns us not to be drunkards. Personally for me I have convictions about it so it is a sin for me.
 
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^^^^ this

.. my girlfriend has agressive cancer
and what helps her is to smoke that
and she (nor me) have any problem with that -
in fact she dislikes it because it makes her soul get numb ,
and cannot find He like she used to
but she needs it for the wretching pain

God bless her brother. My father used it to help him with his battle against cancer also.
 
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Yes, it is generally wrong.

LEVITICUS.10:9 = Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the tabernacle of meeting, lest you die.

You quoted a verse that proved your statement false. You said "generally wrong," but the verse specifies when you go into the tabernacle of meeting.

Otherwise, scripture also says:

He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate-- bringing forth food from the earth: wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts. -- Psalm 104

Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or strong drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. --Deuteronomy 14

So clearly, then, the Leviticus prohibition was specifically for "when you go into the tabernacle of meeting," and not at all "generally."
 
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That was referring to the Mosiac Law, not the laws of the land. The only time we do not obey the laws of men is when they tell us to disobey the Lord directly or deny our faith.

Romans 13:1-7 ESV / 244 helpful votes
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...

Romans 13:1 ESV / 146 helpful votes
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

1 Peter 2:13-17 ESV / 98 helpful votes
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Romans 13:2 ESV / 81 helpful votes

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
What about if the leaders are ungodly and more to the point are Satan’s puppets which in the case they are?
Let’s take medicine
Would God prefer if you go ahead and take the sintetic drugs that pharmaceutical companies make and who have destroyed the natural in order to make money rather than take the natural medicine that God provided ( cannabis oils) ??

God makes natural medicine
God says submit to authorities
Authorities abuse what God has given for financial gain
Should we ignore what God has given because His word says to submit to leaders??

Here’s another point I want to make
God said submit to leaders but has also stated that man
( that’s me and you ) has dominion over all the plants and animals. So who is one man to take away what another man has been given and is rightly his because of God.?

It’s all about control. They force us to work, take their medicines, burn their fuel, pay in to a slave system, take away our rights as a man, we can’t fish unless we pay, we can’t hunt unless we pay, we can’t cultivate certain plants, We can’t trade unless their payed a fee and you think when God said submit to authorities that this is what He meant?
I agree it states that all authorities are instituted by God and that’s all good, but what happens when our governments are evil, theives, murderers, unjust, agreeing with homosexuality basically anything that not fair and not Godly. Are we to submit? If yes, then that means God has instituted evil and if that is true, then I’m sorry, I’m done with Christianity. I cannot serve a God that allows some corrupt government who takes away my right to travel freely, fish for food, hunt for food, cultivate plants for both food and medicine basically anything that hinders me from living life on a planet given to me by God.

As shown in my previous post with video, corrupt men taking away what’s natural and creating a huge mess because they wanted to be rich. Am I supposed to submit to them?.
 
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Ps, to add about forcing us to work
We cannot go out and claim a piece of free land who God has given us. We need to take out a mortgage or else be homeless. You can’t just build a house when and where you want, if you do, you end up in jail and paying money you haven’t got in the first place

We cannot hunt for food without a licence. God gave us that licence freely but hey, we also have to pay the authorities money.
You can’t grow plants. Plants God has given us to use freely. If we grow certain plants, were in jail
 
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Hypocrites latch onto the "recreational use" and act like that is some kind of big sin.

Hypocrites because we recognize sin, and answer the OP honestly? And, I personally am not acting,I think it a huge sin.

This goes against the grain for those in a 'do this, don't do that' religion --

Sorry, but it IS a "don't do this" religion, regardless of the delusion some have chosen to live under, and live under only because they choose to no be obedient/have their cake and eat it too.

which is the default religion for those unsaved.

Like I said, deluded, and anyone who tries to wake them up are the ones with the problem in their mind...always the way.
 
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Remember that pot may be legal in your state, but it's still illegal in the entire U.S. by federal law...

in case anyone is considering Paul's advice to obey the government authorities.


Ephesians 5:18 mentions wine, not pot, but the same advice holds:

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit.
The federal government, however has basically decided ( if you asks me rightfully) that it is not worth enforcing they have basically said well it is just not worth enforcing when we have other things to do. Frankly, many people have told local law enforcement the same thing. like when our county sheriff asks for help over FaceBook to enforce laws about growing weed. Many people outright TOLD him flat out if you catch them arrest them but I am not helping you I am NOT ratting people out.
 
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Well, alcohol can cause violence and aggression. Pot doesn't do that.
Alcohol causes terrible hangovers too. Pot doesn't.

And this is why I feel God chose to make Alcohol legal, it's self regulating. Any of us that have gone over the line with it/gotten terribly ill, remember vividly the "Wow, I'll never do that again!" :)
And alcohol is a lot more addictive than pot.

Pot is as close to completely non addictive than any drug I've tried. See, people stay away from narcotics because they too are addictive (self regulating) while pot, it's so easy to become a pot head because of the lack if ill feelings. That's what makes it dangerous. If one starts to feel burnt, just take a few more tokes, and the next thing we know, we wake up at the pearly gates by someone grabbing our whacked our confused selves by the shoulders and pointing us in the other direction for choosing to cop out on life and be a zombie.

No pain *and* no gain....absolutely not as God intended.

That's not really directed at you, just genera comments. :)
 
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It is a herb, it always-was (?)
You don't see folks, 'tripping-out' on Hemlock, Belladonna & Mandrake ?
and yet, NONE OF THOSE, IS ILLEGAL

I give it to you that 'the fact' it has been made illegal
Is due ENTIRELY, to the motivations of PHARMA
and it's directing of Government
by both legitimate means 'lobbying'
and, as we know by 'Palm-greasing' aka: inflating of bank-accounts

Next, I will be reading;
that GOD created it, to tempt (USERS) us, into sin(?)
I genuinely doubt, He had any such intention

Why are so-many of you so-concerned, about what it is
that other-people might think, of what you do

Ecclesiastes 3

An herb? so, does that make it not a drug "as it always was"?

And the point you evidently didn't get with the hemlock comment I made was just because it's an herb/plant, doesn't make it good. Every single drug out there started it's life as a natural something.

As far as their concern/why they "care what people think"... some have delude themselves but slightly wake up at times, or are just on the fence, and want to do the right thing so they ask other what they think. These are people concerned for their soul, who are brave enough to dare to come out of denial and deal with whatever the issue, and seek the truth, something some would/will never do.
 
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Also alcohol of that time was seriously cut with water ( that was the culture, you don't read the bible to find that you study the time period). Added to that you were not to be under the influence of wine or strong drink according to the bible. Today's wine would be strong drink back then, they took something that was a very low % of alcohol to begin with and cut it. today a low % alcohol wine is maybe 8% ( crappy wine) and the good stuff more like 12-14%, many times more powerful than the wine back in biblical days.

Look, those who want alcohol or weed will dance all around the scripture or even ignore it to get it, so why even discuss it really. They will find a way to get what they want.

I get the overall idea that alcohol is allowed but not advised in the bible. Though it's allowed just for the buzz, but not allowed to get drunk, I think it has a very good place as medicine, as in say we lose a loved one, or we are dying...definitely ok then, but other than a dying situation, just make sure once we get over our hump, we get back in control. Best to not mess with it at all, but some people are stronger than others and I honestly believe God recognizes that fact.

Even getting drunk at a time we cannot deal with something, or for whatever reason actually, though it is not advisable, FWIW, is not being an actual drunkard....continuous drunk.

I personally don't drink at all, I used to, and too much, but no longer like it for the buzz and would rather not for any reason, but can see myself tying one on in particular situations and not feeling the least bit guilty.

Again Alcohol is the only thing mentioned as even questionably ok in the Bible, the other stuff, unless we have a "real" physical need, just not good idea at all in my view.
 
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