Wouldn't that show that your prayers are not being answered?
I wish you had continued down to verse 19..."For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."
Is that how you feel about Peter?
He said..."Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)
No "turn from" sin---no gift of the Holy Ghost.
If man continues to commit sin, while calling Jesus their Lord, it makes it look like Jesus is telling them to commit sin and they are obedient to their Lord.
Will you show me the bible's definition of "regeneration", please?
I use..."Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Cor 5:17)
Those who are not in Christ are not "new creatures".
There is no sin in Christ, so those committing sin are not in Christ either.
I'm sorry you don't believe that Jesus conquered sin.
There is no sin in love.
There is no darkness in light.
I was baptismally regenerated, when I was "raised with Christ to walk in newness of life". (Rom 6:4)
How can sin manifest that new life?
Wouldn't that show that your prayers are not being answered?
I wish you had continued down to verse 19..."For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."
Is that how you feel about Peter?
He said..."Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)
No "turn from" sin---no gift of the Holy Ghost.
If man continues to commit sin, while calling Jesus their Lord, it makes it look like Jesus is telling them to commit sin and they are obedient to their Lord.
Will you show me the bible's definition of "regeneration", please?
I use..."Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Cor 5:17)
Those who are not in Christ are not "new creatures".
There is no sin in Christ, so those committing sin are not in Christ either.
I'm sorry you don't believe that Jesus conquered sin.
There is no sin in love.
There is no darkness in light.
I was baptismally regenerated, when I was "raised with Christ to walk in newness of life". (Rom 6:4)
How can sin manifest that new life?
All this can be boiled down to you believe in sinless perfection and you have ceased from every sin in thought word and deed! That is serious heresy my brother.
Jesus conquered sin and death by paying the price for sin and then rising from the dead.
So when Paul wrote Romans 12 according to your doctrine- he was writing to unbelievers. He told them to no longer let the world squeeze you into its image- but to be metamorphed by the renewing of your mind! You declare that as soon as someone has been baptismally regenerated- they are not allowed any failurte but have to be theologically complete so they will not sin!
Your biggest problem is you fail to recognize the 2 realities of a believer- our position in Christ which is sinless perfection and our experience in life- which is growing towards that sinless perfection!
Paul nor Peter nor any NT writers wrote their letters to unbelievers but to the saints!
Remember the words of the writer of Hebrews:
Hebrews 10:13-15 King James Version (KJV)
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
In the greek it says- He has made perfect (complete) once for all time , those who are being made holy!
Colossians 3:3
For ye are dead, and your
life is
hid with Christ in God.
Ephesians 2:6
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in
heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Romans 8:
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us
Romans 5:
6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement
No matter how you want to mask it , your belief is that Jesus gave you the ticket to heaven, but you have to maintain that salvation by 100% good works. That puts you outside of biblical truth.
Paul said he needed to die daily
1 Corinthians 15:31
I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I
die daily.
also this example oif a sinner in a very carnal church:
1 Corinthians 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Then in 2 Cor. 2 he commanded the church to welcome him back in and confirm their love!
But according to your doctrine he lost his salvation or never had it. If he lost it how could he get it back again? Do believers who struggle gain and lose their salvation multiple times? You seem to serve a God who is far more loving to the lost than to his own children!
But the Word of God says:
John 10:27-29 King James Version (KJV)
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I have been walking with the Lord for over 44 years now. I have failed the Lord (sinned) too many times in those 44 years. According to you I am not saved, but according to God, I am still His and every time I fall short, and acknowledge my sin- He forgives and cleanses.
Jesus commanded us to forgive 70 X7 but your doctrine says if a person sins- they are not even His!
