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no, it doesn't!
just the same old tired, ranting rhetoric which is edifying to no one.
i tried!
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Irrefutable evidence of 4th Commandment support by pro-Sunday sources
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no, it doesn't!
just the same old tired, ranting rhetoric which is edifying to no one.
i tried!
What can I say but I told you so? If you want only a specific answer, say so.no, it doesn't!
just the same old tired, ranting rhetoric which is edifying to no one.
i tried!
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Put scripture there to support that... thats what he wants...
Scripture that says the Sabbath was never given to gentiles.
Scripture that says the Sabbath was never declared holy.
Scripture that says the Jesus is the Sabbath...
Thats what you posted so back it up with scripture.
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First of all it has already been done for him and thrown out.
No your contention is the Sabbath was given to every one. I still have to see support establishing it was. Scripture has been quoted, referenced and rejected showing it was only given to Israel to him and others. He is pretending that is not so. All you are doing is trying to jerk people around till they consent to false teaching or leave. I am solidly backed by Scripture as has been already given.
I have no argument with that at all. The argument based on Scripture is that it was only given to Israel and holy for them alone. Also rejected even when quoted from the law.
Jesus alone offers the rest God swore Israel would never enter into per Mat 11:28-30. That is also thrown out. Maybe you should find someplace that accepts your doctrine. It sure is not here.
Once again it already has been done and rejected.
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Yes and for Israel alone per Moses. You know the law. It is not necessary to quote it again for you to reject.
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So then
Is 56 - Sabbath for the Gentiles.
Is 66:23 Sabbath for all mankind.
Mark 2:27 Sabbath for mankind.
Heb 4 - Sabbath for the people of God.
Ex 20:11 Sabbath made holy --
Gen 2:1-3 Sabbath made holy
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You must be saying your posts are edifying. I say the joke is on you.no, it doesn't!
just the same old tired, ranting rhetoric which is edifying to no one.
i tried!
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It is starting to look very dead here. Guess I can visit every couple days to make my time worthwhile.
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Well if you make that sort of false accusation and offer no evidence at all in favor of it -- then I suppose you could say that.
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What is great on this thread - is that even the majority of pro-sunday scholarship listed in the OP get the Bible details listed above - with no problem at all.
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What exactly do you mean Bob? I have seen your merry-go-round processionary caterpillar circus you play with others jerking them around. All the commentary on your verses has been done several times. If I were to do it again for you, why should I expect something different? The word you does not mean all mankind. The word you is always limited by context. Of course the Israelites are humans, but they do not represent the whole of mankind. From...to has also been discussed. You still have not explained how it means on as you insist. Thus your reference is not about the Sabbath. It has been pointed out here in CF that you speak in code even by an SDA adherent. I mentioned 2 of those code words in this post. Most do not understand what is going on because of this. Most accept the common usage of your code words you use to confuse them. Does a good job too. Most people who do not understand just leave and totally dismiss everything you say.
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Do you say there are 10 commandments? Why do you continue to misrepresent the people and institutions you quote mine from?
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What is great on this thread - is that even the majority of pro-sunday scholarship listed in the OP get the Bible details listed above - with no problem at all.
In the OP we find out that not ONLY does the Bible say there are TEN Commandments, and not only do Sabbath keeping Christians say that who stick with the Sabbath commandment as given by God in Gen 2:1-3 - but even the majority of pro-sunday scholarship admit to this basic Bible fact.
Repeating your false accusation while continuing to show not a shred of evidence in "fact" to support it - is "instructive" for the unbiased objective reader.
Are you trying to make sure they do not forget that you keep doing that?
in Christ,
Bob
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Well if you make that sort of false accusation and offer no evidence at all in favor of it -- then I suppose you could say that.
We are talking about supporting your false accusation with something like actual facts - mere "commentary' is what your list of false accusation - after false accusation can easily satisfy.
But to have validity you need to step beyond commentary that is filled with false accusation and move to something like an appeal to an observable fact.
Is 66:23 "All mankind" not "you".
Mark 2:27 "Sabbath was made for MANkind" not merely 'you'
Ex 20 "3 You shall have no other gods before Me."
Now THERE - you have "YOU".
Did you want to camp out there to make a case?
Feel free.
in the mean time - you are stringing more false accusations into your post so I am not repeating the quote of you doing that sort of thing in this post more than is necessary.
in Christ,
Bob
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Please excuse me. I have read this many times in post of yours. I have read your reference more times than that. I just do not see any command in Gen 2:1-3. I do not even see mankind mentioned there.
Would you be nice and show a command there, please?
Since it has been presented many times I see no sense in presenting it again. You pretend this has not happened. Why?
I do not for the life of me understand what false accusations you are talking about. You really do seem to be trying to play on false accusations for some reason. Does it really do you good to tear others down?
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Here we go once again by starting out attacking the poster. I have no idea what false accusation you are talking about.
What false accusation? The record here at CF proves without doubt what I said is true. Let the reader do the reading. I have no need to waste my time digging up and quoting you. You would merely take it as me agreeing with and glorifying you. I do not have time for such foolishness. Besides you would probably say I was lying even with a short cut to the quote.
Do you really have anything of value to say?
from ...to is the focus of the verse. The verse is not about mankind.
Just continued out of context mistreatment of the Scripture.
Who is the you in this verse? I find it is qualified as Israel only.
I do not play your code word games.
No problem. What does God say in 19:3 and 20:2? Is God talking about and to Israel or the whole world? These 2 verses qualify the word you as Israel.
May I suggest you stop accusing?
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here we have your explanation as to why you do not provide a shred of evidence for your list of false accusations.
Instructive for the unbiased objective reader.
in Christ,
Bob
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Nothing ere but misrepresentation. Is that dishonest?
Originally Posted by listedWhat exactly do you mean Bob? I have seen your merry-go-round processionary caterpillar circus you play with others jerking them around. All the commentary on your verses has been done several times.
But to have validity you need to step beyond commentary that is filled with false accusation and move to something like an appeal to an observable fact.
listed said:
Mark 2:27 "Sabbath was made for MANkind" not merely 'you'
Ex 20: "3 You shall have no other gods before Me."
Now THERE - you have "YOU".
Did you want to camp out there to make a case?
Feel free.
in the mean time - you are stringing more false accusations into your post so I am not repeating the quote of you doing that sort of thing in this post more than is necessary.
I always try to simplify that for you by including at least one of your false accusations in each quote I reply to - where the subject of your false accusations is going to be addressed - at least for a sentence or two.
Usually to point out that you offer not a shred of fact to go with your accusations.
Here again you are simply defending your practice of offering not one shred of evidence for your false accusations.
We both agree to one thing - you are not providing evidence for the false accusations you make.
from ...to is the focus of the verse. The verse is not about mankind.Just continued out of context mistreatment of the Scripture.Who is the you in this verse?
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Isaiah 66:23 says "All mankind" did you hope it said "you" instead??
But I provide a clear case for your focus on the word "you".
Ex 20: "3 You shall have no other gods before Me."
Now THERE - you have "YOU".
Did you want to camp out there to make a case?
in Christ,
Bob
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