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But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.So you should run to and fro and your knowledge shall increase.
Here is my timeline Doug: Our Beloved was crucified two days ago and He will rise again on the third day.To very active posters at this forum,
What I want to see from you, is not just your verbiage of your eschatology view. I want to see a timeline chart of the elements of your eschatology position.
What you should do is make a timeline chart of all your iterations, fitting everything you have been writing about and claiming, and putting it into a non-fragmented form of a timeline chart. To show how any of it makes sense.
Start a timeline chart.... and work on it, until the contradictions are ironed out. it will probably be an ongoing work in progress.
Here is mine....which most of you have seen over and over. You make yours - prove your views, interpretations, and claims, fit together to form the big picture.
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Well, you make one that works.
There are not an "extra" 30 and then 45 days. In the first place, extra to what? Nevermind...
My chart is correct but....
You make a timeline chart of your own that you think is correct. No one can settle for you writing one out - because your communicating skills are so lacking, and you don't even realize it. For example, you just wrote "YOu have the sixth seal being opened and placed it under the 7th trumpet sounding..."
The error in what you wrote is you said the sixth seal being "opened".
The sixth seal and all the other seals were opened by Jesus back in John's day - otherwise, no-one would know what is in the book.
To communicate correctly, you should have wrote... "you have the sixth seal event taking place after the 7th angel sounding his trumpet".
Do you know how many times I have to go back, edit, and fix all my typing errors, left out words, bad punctuation, wrong way of saying something, overly emotional remarks, all of which is poor communications on my part, and such in every post I make - after I make my post the first time? Usually around three or four times, I have to edit every post, usually seconds after I post it.
To make a good timeline chart, presentable, it is going to take some effort on your part to learn something new in the way of a graphics program like paintshop pro 2020 for example. Don't use laziness as excuse.
The seals were actually opened to know what was in the book. None of the events revealed by opening the seals have begun yet, including the trumpets and vials events.The seal was not "actually" opened as is clearly understood by the fact that after a seal is opened certain events happen. Just like when the trumpets sound and when the vials are poured out! There is a difference between seeing a vision and reality!
Again. Extra to what? Can't you see the shortcomings to written only communications when discussing eschatology?And the extra 30 and 45 days or the 1335 days Daniel said if people make are blessed are to allow for quite a few events on earth to take place after Jesus returns and before the restoration of most of the earth and the start of His 1,000 year kingdom on earth!
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.Verses describing this extra 75 days after Jesus returns and what takes place are as follows:
Dan. 12:11-12
REv. 19:20
Rev. 20:1-3
Joel 3:1-3
Mt. 25:31-33
Mt. 25:34-40, 41-45
All these things take time to happen on earth! And the Bible tells us it will take 75 days for it to happen.
Matthew 24 happened already in 70ad when Rome sacked Jerusalem, murdered 2 million people and had orders to leave no stone unturned. Christians heeded the word of their savior and fled to the mountains and were spared....and totally wrong. But that is not the point. You have no information is what you just wrote in essence, just an ambiguous statement from a bible prophecy standpoint.
How does what you wrote, explain the parable of the fig tree generation? for example. When all of the prophecies in Matthew 24:15-30 will take place.
The day will come when you will regret the promotion of your beliefs and opinions.My chart is right.
I'm sure all of us believe our theology is "right" or else we wouldn't believe it......right? However.....even though most of us are all Christian here.....there are even disagreements about the fulfillment of the Gospels....the basics (let alone the symbolic/apocalyptic books like Daniel and Revelation).My chart is right.
Without a chart, based on just that statement - a person could not see the obvious error in your thinking.The Sixth Seal is the next action by the Lord, Jesus made that clear when He stopped reading Isaiah 61:1-2, before; and a day of the vengeance of our God. Luke 12:49
The big problem is that complexity of the different views are not readily seen without some sort of timeline chart of each person's view.I'm sure all of us believe our theology is "right" or else we wouldn't believe it......right? However.....even though most of us are all Christian here.....there are even disagreements about the fulfillment of the Gospels....the basics (let alone the symbolic/apocalyptic books like Daniel and Revelation).
A generic statement. Does not mention the beginning of the great tribulation, nor the abomination of desolation which triggers it. No timeline chart of the major events in prophecy - no proof that your statement makes sense.Matthew 24 happened already in 70ad when Rome sacked Jerusalem, murdered 2 million people and had orders to leave no stone unturned. Christians heeded the word of their savior and fled to the mountains and were spared.
But without you showing a timeline chart of your view - it takes years of other participants here in this forum, reading and debating with you to even understand what you view is - across the span of the end times.As is usual when I post the Bible based sequence of events, those whose beliefs are contradicted by it, just ignore and bury it under petty squabbling's.
In no way is the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17, the same event as the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls; referred to in Matthew 24:29.That you have the same event taking place twice.
My post in #7, is a simple list, easily read step by step correct and logical, sequence of events, which anyone can understand.But without you showing a timeline chart of your view - it takes years of other participants here in this forum, reading and debating with you to even understand what you view is - across the span of the end times.
Not talking about the 7 trumpets and 7 bowls...In no way is the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17, the same event as the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls; referred to in Matthew 24:29.
Because you don't have a well executed timline chart to present.My post in #7, is a simple list, easily read step by step correct and logical, sequence of events, which anyone can understand.
The avoidance of people here to even discuss it, is very telling.
But they are plainly NOT the same event. Revelation 6:12b says the moon will be blood red, not dark as at the Return.Not talking about the 7 trumpets and 7 bowls...
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
same event as in the sixth seal.
Give over, Douggg, you are using this to avoid the truths I have presented.Because you don't have a well executed timline chart to present.
You cannot reconcile in your mind how those words can be describing the same event? Dark does not necessary mean black. And blood red does not mean by the light of the moon. Turning blood red the moon will be darkened.But they are plainly NOT the same event. Revelation 6:12b says the moon will be blood red, not dark as at the Return.
But they are plainly NOT the same event. Revelation 6:12b says the moon will be blood red, not dark as at the Return.
At least he is thinking. I have not had time to look them over yet.
zero and none.What is the probability of the following common elements in these two verses if they are unrelated?
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
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