I give up: I'd rather go backwards, than forwards (in Evolution)

[Gottservant]

You can't bring back the dead.

God can.

 

[Gottservant]

There is no backwards mutation. [...]

What if I repeatedly fail at Evolution?

It never matters until I'm dead?

What happens then?

 

[Gottservant]

Evolution isn't time travel either.

Then why does the concept of time travel, persist?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

God can.

Which proves my point. It is biologically and naturally impossible for the dead to come back to life. Only a deity, a supernatural entity, can do that.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What if I repeatedly fail at Evolution?

It never matters until I'm dead?

What happens then?

You can't fail, let alone repeatedly fail, at evolution. That's not how evolution works. You need to stop thinking of evolution in such terms, because you will never get a handle on what the science says as long as you keep making these insipid and daft comments on it.

Evolution is the changes in alleles in an organism, allowing it and its offspring to adapt to a changing environment and survive.

 

[Gottservant]

You can't fail?

Now, I know you are kidding.

Belief is for truth or fact - if you can't understand that, you are deceiving people who might otherwise wonder what strength a word can have?

 

[Shemjaza]

You can't fail?

Now, I know you are kidding.

Belief is for truth or fact - if you can't understand that, you are deceiving people who might otherwise wonder what strength a word can have?

That has nothing to do with evolution.

You can't fail at something you don't do and you are an individual so you don't have an evolution, you can't get an evolution and you can't get an evolution done to you.

 

[Freodin]

You can't fail?

Can you fail at failing?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You can't fail?

Now, I know you are kidding.

Belief is for truth or fact - if you can't understand that, you are deceiving people who might otherwise wonder what strength a word can have?

You're being foolish again.

 

[Gottservant]

The point is... if Evolution was true, you would consistently heed the words of Jesus - because Jesus' words are life, and without life, you can't survive.

If you think I am being pedantic, what about all the things you say about Evolution - as if they are all that needs to be true - you don't realize they can't compare with the Wisdom of Jesus?

If you went your whole life, without those words, I put it to you, that you would not "evolve"? Rather it is because some of those words are in common culture, that Evolution even makes sense to discuss?

You don't fear that the words of Jesus will hunt you down, why then do you insist that Evolution helps you hunt (for words you need?)?

 

[Gottservant]

I have heard it said, that Evolution keeps you "in tune", with nature and that Evolution "helps you thrive", even that Evolution takes as its foundation, the difference between right and wrong, what I don't understand is where all the theory that backs this up is?

You could be far more competitive, if there was a standard permutation of Evolutionary, that you wished would come to life, in the hands of God?

That you think you can do it on your own, is the very height of fakery - not that it is wrong to be fake, but you can't claim it as the only news there was.

God fundamentally brings to life, but He doesn't do so, at cross purposes to what a given creature's productivity was going to be - that He left by faith, that the self-same faith revealed would be enough.

In other words, I am not interested in the "Evolution" you say is fact, but the Evolution that changes something - every time it is revealed, such that the whole of those changes verify the faith that was put in it (in principle).

I have already told you, that "Jesus understands faith" - but it seems you would rather work your way up to a perfection of fact, that doesn't understand it's own vulnerability.

Perfect fact, is still tempted with duplicity about the precise impact a fact should retain

That is what you are guilty of: "duplicity".

 

[Gene2memE]

The point is... if Evolution was true, you would consistently heed the words of Jesus - because Jesus' words are life, and without life, you can't survive.

Metaphors aren't real.

Jesus also said "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me will not hunger, and he who believes in me will never thirst."

Does that literally mean you will never get hungry or thirsty, or that he was a baked doughy substance?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The point is... if Evolution was true, you would consistently heed the words of Jesus - because Jesus' words are life, and without life, you can't survive.

If you think I am being pedantic, what about all the things you say about Evolution - as if they are all that needs to be true - you don't realize they can't compare with the Wisdom of Jesus?

If you went your whole life, without those words, I put it to you, that you would not "evolve"? Rather it is because some of those words are in common culture, that Evolution even makes sense to discuss?

You don't fear that the words of Jesus will hunt you down, why then do you insist that Evolution helps you hunt (for words you need?)?

More foolish words from you.

Evolution has no bearing on religion and is a completely separate thing to religion.

 

[Speedwell]

In other words, I am not interested in the "Evolution" you say is fact, but the Evolution that changes something - every time it is revealed, such that the whole of those changes verify the faith that was put in it (in principle).

So you are not at all interested in the biological evolution we discuss in this forum. Why are you here?

 

[inquiring mind]

So you are not at all interested in the biological evolution we discuss in this forum. Why are you here?

I suppose for the same reason I am... to discuss and defend Creationism, the other half of this forum.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I suppose for the same reason I am... to discuss and defend Creationism, the other half of this forum.

Now, to be fair, you actually try and discuss something.
Gottservant... he does not.

 

[inquiring mind]

Now, to be fair, you actually try and discuss something.

Thanks, I can live for two months on a good compliment. Twain again

 

[Speedwell]

I have heard it said, that Evolution keeps you "in tune", with nature and that Evolution "helps you thrive", even that Evolution takes as its foundation, the difference between right and wrong, what I don't understand is where all the theory that backs this up is?

There isn't one, because the kind of biological evolution we talk about in this forum doesn't do any of that stuff.

In other words, I am not interested in the "Evolution" you say is fact, but the Evolution that changes something - every time it is revealed, such that the whole of those changes verify the faith that was put in it (in principle).

We know; you are not the least bit interested in discussing the kind of evolution we talk about in this forum.

I have already told you, that "Jesus understands faith" - but it seems you would rather work your way up to a perfection of fact, that doesn't understand it's own vulnerability.



That is what you are guilty of: "duplicity".

How so? We have been honest with you. The kind of evolution we talk about in this forum is not a substitute for faith or spiritual development.

 

[Kylie]

You can't fail?

Now, I know you are kidding.

Belief is for truth or fact - if you can't understand that, you are deceiving people who might otherwise wonder what strength a word can have?

You can't fail at evolving because you won't evolve. Evolving is something that happens because of the changes from parent to child. Since you will never be your own child, you can't evolve.

 

[Gottservant]

It's not that I don't want to help Evolutionists, but their theory on its own, is too hard.

If you come to me saying "help me Evolve" I'm going to say "go back the way you came, your Evolution has nothing to do with me; if you call it Evolution and there is no point, your heart is deceived".

Not to put a spin on it, but there really is no reason to believe anything other than the words of Jesus - for Wisdom's sake. You putting on a parade, that you have somehow found words for life that are not His, only shows that you are more gullible for the works of the Devil, than is good for you.

If you loved the Word, you would remember Jesus' words - that's all I'm saying.

Jesus' words keep change in context, without which it is not possible to 'evolve' anything.